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BBC 1’s Showtrial: Talitha Campbell

39 replies

MeanMrMustardSeed · 19/11/2021 10:51

If you haven’t watched (but intend to) or finished Showtrial yet, look away now!

Our household is split 50:50. My friendships group I saw last night are split 50:50, but I’m looking for closure! 😂

AIBU?: Talitha Campbell is Innocent

YANBU: she is innocent
YABU: she is guilty

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doodleygirl · 19/11/2021 10:53

Guilty

RuggerHug · 19/11/2021 10:54

I think it'll be they're both guilty but will get off.

JohnnyCashcard · 19/11/2021 10:56

I thought innocent. Although I doubted myself a little bit in the scene where she goes back to the lawyer's office and said haha, we got away with it! But then I thought that was just part of her being her.

MeanMrMustardSeed · 19/11/2021 11:00

@JohnnyCashcard

I thought innocent. Although I doubted myself a little bit in the scene where she goes back to the lawyer's office and said haha, we got away with it! But then I thought that was just part of her being her.
I agree with this!
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LanaDelBoy · 19/11/2021 11:02

The only evidence at all was the bracelet fragment. That's a decent bit of evidence but can be explained away, and the fact there's nothing else wouldn't suggest to me she was there.
The abusive childhood stuff was interesting but shouldn't really come into any decision on whether she's guilty or not.

Chardlettuce · 19/11/2021 11:09

For a while I thought the flashback to where Dhillon and Talitha put the bin in the river was meant to be a true flashback, then I realised it wasn't.

Nevertheless I don't see how Dhillon could have got the body in the wheelie bin and put it in the river etc without a helper, who would obviously be Talitha.

HarrietsChariot · 19/11/2021 11:15

Guilty. Lack of evidence doesn't mean someone is innocent, there are many examples of real world cases where there isn't enough evidence to convict anybody but the fact their is a strangled corpse suggests it's highly likely somebody is guilty.

This story is one of those cases where even if they are technically innocent of this crime, they're clearly guilty of other failings so it's not a big deal if they get convicted.

FluffyBooBoo · 19/11/2021 11:18

I think guilty.

I think that scene where she says we totally fooled them was genuine, she was testing Cleo to see if she realised she was guilty, then when Cleo's face made it obvious she didn't, she passed it off as a joke.

I would love to know what the writer thinks.

LanaDelBoy · 19/11/2021 11:19

This story is one of those cases where even if they are technically innocent of this crime, they're clearly guilty of other failings so it's not a big deal if they get convicted.

Dear Lord! Is your name Jeremy Usbourne, by any chance?!
Hope you're never on a jury ...

MeanMrMustardSeed · 20/11/2021 17:23

Bumping this for the people who’ve finished the series in the last 24 hours...

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MotherWol · 20/11/2021 17:40

I think she did it, but the lack of physical evidence means the jury had to return a not guilty verdict. There’s not enough proof to tie her to the scene, and any conviction would be unsafe. That said, it really doesn’t seem convincing that Dhillon would have been able to dispose of the body by himself. If only Hannah’s mum hadn’t cleaned the flat!

LanaDelBoy · 20/11/2021 18:48

Just wondering why people think she did it - because she's arsey and didn't like the victim, or because they think Dhillon couldn't have done it alone? If you think she did it, do you think Dhillon's account is accurate?

(Yeah I'm aware it's not real!)

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 20/11/2021 18:53

If I was on the jury there wasn't enough evidence to convict her, where there was for him.

Best thing I've seen in ages.

MorganKitten · 20/11/2021 19:49

He’d assaulted girls before and was the murderer. She was just a nasty poor little rich girl.

LittleDandelionClock · 20/11/2021 19:53

Guilty.

But my view may be skewed by the fact that I LOATH Talitha. Awful, spoilt, entitled-to, arrogant little article. Utterly loathsome, and I think people in high places paid off the jury.

Ididanamechange · 20/11/2021 20:09

I think she was innocent. She didn't really have a motive where as dhillon did, I think its very unlikely hannah would have forgiven the falling out and decided to have a threesome with them, there was no DNA linking her to hannah house and the video of the ball shows dhillon taking the scarf from her and on the last bit of cctv of them walking home you can't see her wearing the scarf.

MeanMrMustardSeed · 20/11/2021 20:53

It is absolutely the best thing I’ve seen in ages. Love all the strong female characters.

If she was guilty, it was very risky to say that she wasn’t there at all. Any cctv / forensic / witness could have emerged and disproved it and she’d have been found guilty.

Interesting that it’s a fairly equal split. Lots of my friends didn’t like the ending but the difference of opinion really shows me how good the ending was.

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tellmetologoffIamaMNaddict · 20/11/2021 22:19

Just finished. On balance going with not guilty.

GroggyLegs · 20/11/2021 22:25

My gut says guilty - I think she played Cleo like a fiddle. Passing out, being vulnerable etc.

And why would Dhillon implicate her? He supposedly adored her.

But I really think Dhillon would have shouted 'You liar!' or something when the not guilty verdict was read out - you wouldn't be able to contain it, would you? Maybe he was protecting her.

MissM2912 · 20/11/2021 22:27

I also think guilty.

Mummadeze · 20/11/2021 22:29

Not guilty. I think! I loved the series but I so wish there had been a final flashback of what actually happened.

mangoontoast · 20/11/2021 22:29

I've been going backwards and forwards, but I think guilty.

Noeuf · 20/11/2021 22:31

Innocent - think she was just a well protected posh girl with no empathy and a warped sense of humour

GreenTeaPingPong · 20/11/2021 22:35

I think the writer deliberately left it ambiguous (which is a bit annoying). But I also loved this series. I think the whole point is that we're prejudiced against her as she can be so outrageously nasty - just like the policewoman who clearly hates her and so hid the video evidence that might have got her off. But even nasty people can be innocent. At the end we see Cleo look slightly puzzled, as if she too is wondering, is she really guilty?
The only thing that made me doubt that Dhillon had done it was that the actor played him as very convincing, not as someone who's lying.

Bimblybomeyelash · 20/11/2021 22:37

Not guilty.

Dhilan had a history of abusive and threatening behaviour towards women.
He was seen with the murder weapon before the murder, and he was the one disposing of it.
There was no physical evidence linking Talitha to the crime scene. Dhilan’s semen was found in Hannah.
He implicated Talitha so that she would be the one done for murder and he for a lesser crime!
His story didn’t add up. The narrative of him stalking Hannah, her reporting him, Talitha threatening her, and then them all ending up in bed together just didn’t make sense.