To wonder how many Mumsnetters Mark Morriss has hit on?

[deeedeee]

Strength in numbers. Well to Anna Wharton and the other 2 brave mums that have exposed him. There must be more ..

annawharton.substack.com/p/if-im-lying-come-sue-me

What an absolute bastard

I saw them at a teeny gig once, they were good (but I'm sure they only played 2 songs I actually knew, I always thought they were a one hit wonder) but he came across as an arrogant arse that would rather have been anywhere else.
Obviously able to switch the charm on and off.

Those saying it isn't abuse and he was just shagging around worry me.

When she takes about him coming home and inspecting the house and calling her a liar about cleaning. When she used to polish the door to try to get him to accept that she has cleaned. That's emotional abuse.

When he texted her saying he absolutely wasn't cheating then let her into his house when another woman was in his bed. That's emotional abuse, it is manipulative and involves gaslighting. It isn't "just" shagging around.

When she had fingerprint bruises around her neck. Surely you can see that is physical abuse?

@3scape

Lies and lies and lies. There are honest men out there but why do so many have this "pity me" MO

Pathetic, isn't it? He also told me about his terrible childhood and how his mother had neglected him when he was a child. I assume that was all lies too. He even managed to squeeze a few tears out for that one.

He encouraged me to open up to him about my recent abusive relationship, and had the nerve to sit there shaking his head and looking sick while all the time doing the same - if not worse - to other women.

@arcof

I read it. The physical abuse is obviously an issue. But the fact that he goes around lying to women and cheating on them isn't "abuse". How is it abuse? A man says he'll take you on holiday, you introduce him to your kids but yet hes also seeing someone else, and that's abuse? Don't get me wrong, he sounds vile, but I don't understand.

Did you miss the bit where he’d return from a weekend away and inspect everything to make sure she’d cleaned properly? And that she’d ended up spraying polish on the door so he’d smell it when he came in and didn’t accuse her of lying about cleaning?

Did you miss the bit where he gaslit his wife into thinking that she was paranoid and had trust issues?

Did you miss the bit where he introduced his daughter to another woman’s children as her new step sisters, knowing that he had no intention of that happening?

Abuse doesn’t just have to be physical, surely you understand this?

Unbelievable that infidelity isn’t considered abuse!!!!!! Jeez victim blaming much! Especially insiduous serial overwhelming gaslighting infidelity as evidenced here.

@OakleyStreetisnotinChelsea

Those saying it isn't abuse and he was just shagging around worry me.

When she takes about him coming home and inspecting the house and calling her a liar about cleaning. When she used to polish the door to try to get him to accept that she has cleaned. That's emotional abuse.

When he texted her saying he absolutely wasn't cheating then let her into his house when another woman was in his bed. That's emotional abuse, it is manipulative and involves gaslighting. It isn't "just" shagging around.

When she had fingerprint bruises around her neck. Surely you can see that is physical abuse?

In this situation then yes, the cheating was part of his abuse. But I don't think cheating is always abuse.

This case aside, I wouldn't class cheating as abuse. It's a violation of trust and it's a betrayal but it's not abuse.

I know someone who was involved with him years ago, for a long time off and on. He absolutely ruined her 20s.

I’m sure there’s many more it’s the band thing that does it.

I saw I guy I used to go out with, in town, last week. Hadn’t seen him in over ten years... He was still strutting around like the vain peacock he was when I knew him. I’m sure he still gets his fair share of women!

Blokes like this are toxic, there’s always the crazy ex / sob story / heartbreak.

Infidelity in and of itself isn't abusive in my opinion.

It can be part and pattern of abuse of course but the act itself isn't - nasty, selfish, unthinking, cruel - yes. Abusive? Not automatically.

To be clear I'm talking generally. This man is quite clearly an abusive horror and my comments don't apply to his behaviour.

It’s definately abusive in my book

@deeedeee

It’s definately abusive in my book

What all infidelity or this specific situation?

@Merryoldgoat

Infidelity in and of itself isn't abusive in my opinion.

It can be part and pattern of abuse of course but the act itself isn't - nasty, selfish, unthinking, cruel - yes. Abusive? Not automatically.

To be clear I'm talking generally. This man is quite clearly an abusive horror and my comments don't apply to his behaviour.

I agree completely with this comment.

Safe to say his career is over. Feel sorry for his bandmates too although it sounds like a couple of them may not have been whiter than white having read a comment above.

Of course they wouldn’t have been it’s like a private club when they on tour.

Even if his band mates weren’t womanisers themselves, they must of enabled Morriss’s behaviour. One of them is his brother , so the uncle of the child he called unwanted as a seduction technique.

Always 2 sides to every story. I've met Mark many times and he's always been the perfect gent, so I speak as I find.

@Deepat011051

Always 2 sides to every story. I've met Mark many times and he's always been the perfect gent, so I speak as I find.

This reminds me of what my ex told me his new girlfriend has said about him. I divorced my ex H after discovering he'd cheated on me throughout our marriage with prostitutes, colleagues, basically anyone. I asked him if he'd told her why the marriage ended. He said he'd been truthful about everything (I doubt this) and that she said she'll 'take him as (she) find(s) him'.

It's amazing what a woman will ignore when she's attracted to someone new with an horrific past and doesn't believe he'd be like that with her. I was the same when I discovered how he'd treated his 1st wife. As women, we're too willing to believe these awful men and assume that their behaviour must have been exclusive to their previous relationship. Once a lying, cheating scumbag, always a lying, cheating scumbag in my experience.

But hey ho, that's life and it continues.

It's only through women speaking out about their experiences like this that we get to understand patterns and that men just go from abusing one woman to the next.

I hope there's been enough coverage of him now that his next potential victim will have good friends and family talking some sense into her before it's too late.

@Deepat011051

Always 2 sides to every story. I've met Mark many times and he's always been the perfect gent, so I speak as I find.

That’s total bollocks. There’s plenty of women saying that he’s an abusive wanker, and then there’s you denying their experiences. You should be ashamed.

And that’s your first and only post, so you joined just to say that? Very much like the people that defended Ian Watkins after his arrest.

@Deepat011051

Always 2 sides to every story. I've met Mark many times and he's always been the perfect gent, so I speak as I find.

Most abusers are “the perfect gent”. That’s how they lure in their victims, and how they ensure that nobody else believes them when they speak out.

So pleased to see women coming forward and speaking out about this. I wish I could have read her account and heard Thea Gilmore/Afterlight’s podcast back when I was in an abusive relationship with a controlling narcissist.

They were due to play at Shine On festival a couple of weeks ago but for some reason they didn’t and we got Dodgy instead. I’m glad now after evading this. What a fucking dick!

I had tickets for Bluetones this year but didn't go because I was worried about covid. I'm glad I didn't now (though my husband was sad to miss Sleeper who were also playing)