AIBU to think being desperate to smoke & vape is a bit sad?

[ValerieCupcake]

I mean the numerous bus drivers and tram drivers who can't wait to get off and light up in all weathers, dragging them out of their pockets while walking off the vehicle. People hanging around in the rain huddled about puffing away. I feel sorry for anyone as addicted as that and think it looks sad.

YANBU. I used to smoke. I smoked for around ten years, from my mid to late teens to my mid 20s, before I got pregnant/had children, and am SO glad I don't now. It's a stinky, smelly, gross, anti-social habit, that costs a fortune, and there are SO many places you can't do it now, that I don't understand why people still do it.

I don't know anybody personally who smokes now. In the area I live, and in my social circle, it's mostly middle class/upper middle class professionals, business owners, middle and upper management, vicars, doctors, solicitors and the like, and none of them smoke. When I drive through 'less desirable areas' I see loads of people smoking.

In addition, I very rarely see a well-educated person smoking these days. Most intelligent, sensible people either have had the common sense to give up, OR they never started. And yes you CAN give up if you want to. I did, and so have millions of others. If you've not given up, it's because you don't want to.

Smoking should be consigned to the history books. It's foul.

I don't know anybody personally who smokes now. In the area I live, and in my social circle, it's mostly middle class/upper middle class professionals, business owners, middle and upper management, vicars, doctors, solicitors and the like, and none of them smoke. When I drive through 'less desirable areas' I see loads of people smoking

Didn't take long!

It’s not a great habit no. But people use addictions to manage stress and all sorts. It’s a tough habit to break. As you surely know if you have even a smidge of imagination. As you appear not to, I’d say you are a (mean spirited) saddo.

@5128gap

Theres a lot of misplaced pity going round on these threads today. People feeling sorry for people who go out out over 35 over yonder, and now here its for people who smoke or vape. If what you really mean is you think these people are bad and wrong, then for goodness sake say so, and explain why it bothers you. Why (pretend to) feel sorry for people who are probably perfectly happy living their day, minding their own business?

This

I feel sorry for anyone that feels sorry for people minding their own business and having a fag/vape. Very odd comment OP

@Lizzy1980

I feel sorry for anyone that feels sorry for people minding their own business and having a fag/vape. Very odd comment OP

Oh, it's just an excuse for a 'let's sneer at smokers' thread (ineffectively) disguised as pity. Well, it makes a change from 'let's sneer at fat people' I suppose.

@FlickerBeat

I don't know anybody personally who smokes now. In the area I live, and in my social circle, it's mostly middle class/upper middle class professionals, business owners, middle and upper management, vicars, doctors, solicitors and the like, and none of them smoke. When I drive through 'less desirable areas' I see loads of people smoking

Didn't take long!

According to many threads on here, that's because the toffs are all knee deep in Colombian marching powder.

My cousin and my niece smoke. No-one else among my friends and family smoke, and nor do they take illegal drugs.

We are so boring aren't we

I don't know anybody personally who smokes now. In the area I live, and in my social circle, it's mostly middle class/upper middle class professionals, business owners, middle and upper management, vicars, doctors, solicitors and the like, and none of them smoke. When I drive through 'less desirable areas' I see loads of people smoking.

Hmmm...

I live in a world , very similar to your world. The alcohol consumption, within that world is staggering.
Two families of young children bereft of a parent with alcohol addiction that just I know of.

Don't get me started on Facebook addiction and the need to hide behind cupboard doors, staff room, toilet ( multiple toilet breaks) photocopying room etc... even scrolling whilst talking to her and she just kept scrolling while saying " I AM listening " when she wasn't .

Addiction is horrendous ( my father was addicted to alcohol and gambling.) it ruins lives.

Please try and understand it and not be sanctimoniously judgmental.
Addiction knows no class whatsoever.

@LittleDandelionClock

YANBU. I used to smoke. I smoked for around ten years, from my mid to late teens to my mid 20s, before I got pregnant/had children, and am SO glad I don't now. It's a stinky, smelly, gross, anti-social habit, that costs a fortune, and there are SO many places you can't do it now, that I don't understand why people still do it.

I don't know anybody personally who smokes now. In the area I live, and in my social circle, it's mostly middle class/upper middle class professionals, business owners, middle and upper management, vicars, doctors, solicitors and the like, and none of them smoke. When I drive through 'less desirable areas' I see loads of people smoking.

In addition, I very rarely see a well-educated person smoking these days. Most intelligent, sensible people either have had the common sense to give up, OR they never started. And yes you CAN give up if you want to. I did, and so have millions of others. If you've not given up, it's because you don't want to.

Smoking should be consigned to the history books. It's foul.

Of course you don't. But I bet my house a few of them do it in secret. Non smokers have no idea just how many stealth smokers there are.

Not quite as sad as starting a judgey thread about it though is it?

@LittleDandelionClock

YANBU. I used to smoke. I smoked for around ten years, from my mid to late teens to my mid 20s, before I got pregnant/had children, and am SO glad I don't now. It's a stinky, smelly, gross, anti-social habit, that costs a fortune, and there are SO many places you can't do it now, that I don't understand why people still do it.

I don't know anybody personally who smokes now. In the area I live, and in my social circle, it's mostly middle class/upper middle class professionals, business owners, middle and upper management, vicars, doctors, solicitors and the like, and none of them smoke. When I drive through 'less desirable areas' I see loads of people smoking.

In addition, I very rarely see a well-educated person smoking these days. Most intelligent, sensible people either have had the common sense to give up, OR they never started. And yes you CAN give up if you want to. I did, and so have millions of others. If you've not given up, it's because you don't want to.

Smoking should be consigned to the history books. It's foul.

Ugh this post. It's gross.

I used to smoke, I chose to stop for my health. I don't look down my nose at people who smoke and I certainly don't feel sorry for them 🤦🏼‍♀️

I work in the NHS, I know consultants, nurses, GP's who smoke. It's not just for those foul, poor people, darling.

You pity away, dear. They couldn’t give a flying fuck what you think.

I work in the NHS, I know consultants, nurses, GP's who smoke. It's not just for those foul, poor people, darling.

I can believe it. I frequently walk down a path which runs parallel to a hospital which has a no smoking anywhere on its grounds policy. There are always healthcare workers on a fag break.

It is strange though, as they must frequently have to tell patients that they should stop smoking.

@CounsellorTroi

I work in the NHS, I know consultants, nurses, GP's who smoke. It's not just for those foul, poor people, darling.

I can believe it. I frequently walk down a path which runs parallel to a hospital which has a no smoking anywhere on its grounds policy. There are always healthcare workers on a fag break.

It is strange though, as they must frequently have to tell patients that they should stop smoking.

It is strange though, as they must frequently have to tell patients that they should stop smoking.

How is that strange?

It's no 'stranger' than all the overweight healthcare workers who have to tell people they should lose weight.

It's just part of the job. They're not there as some sort of paragon of virtue.

Arent smokers overrepresented among doctors? Not surprising, it's a stressful job. Pretty much every nurse I've ever dealt with has been overweight, again not surprising, long hours.
I would say smoking being for the great unwashed might have been true 20 years ago, but these days a pack of fags is so expensive.

I can assure you that they know it “looks sad”

(Ex fagger here. I went cold turkey rather than start vaping )

@WorraLiberty

What a strange thread to start and not bother returning to

"I feel sorry for addicts"

Errrr yeah, lots of us do.

It's not that I "didn't bother" returning to it. I was working all day and don't have time to keep checking Mumsnet. Sorry.

I'm as entitled as anyone else to say what I think and ask a question. Everyone else does on other topics, and those of you saying what you think about me are just as bad as you think I am

I don't think its 'just as bad' to comment on you, because you've chosen to post your opinion and in doing so have revealed something about yourself. You on the other hand are looking at strangers and making patronising judgements that they are 'sad' and to be pitied, when you know nothing about them. You solicited the comments you received, the people you are commenting on did not. Can you see the difference?