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AIBU to think EX is lying about having depression

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BueenQee · 13/11/2021 08:43

I’ll try and keep this as brief as possible.

Ex and I split 2.5 years ago when DS was 5 weeks old (I ended it) and he put me through hell for the first few months afterwards - constantly texting me saying I was an unfit mother, name calling, telling me I was mentally unstable, lying to his family about me which resulted in his mum calling my GP to tell them she thought I had PND (amongst other things) - until I blocked him from everything and went no contact.

After a few months of NC he contacted me by email and we sorted things out and became friends again. DS has suspected ASD so we have attended appointments together...taken the kids on days out... etc, so have been in each other’s company often.

A few months ago I started to receive messages from a random Facebook account. At first, I didn’t reply but the person was very persistent, sending me messages A LOT and the style of writing was very similar to my EX so I became suspicious and replied to try and catch them out. This went on for weeks, and I literally felt like I was going off my head. I reverse image searched one of the profile pictures and found the real persons Instagram account so I then knew the Facebook account that had been messaging me was fake but still had no proof it was my ex. I contacted my ex and explained I knew he was behind the fake profile and that I had found the real persona social media but he ignored the message. So I contacted the guy who’s content was being taken to let him know so he could have the fake account removed. He asked me if I had any idea who was behind it and I explained I thought it may be my ex as the way they wrote was very similar, they spelled certain words the same way, they overused emojis...etc. This guy contacted my ex and what followed was the worst 3 weeks emotionally that I have ever dealt with in my life.

The lies, manipulation, gaslighting, my ex tried to turn it all around and make out I was some crazy ex who was obsessed with him and it was me who was behind the fake account, he said I made it up so I could pin it on him because he’s not been arsed with me since we split. I ended up having to contact the police and when I showed them everything - all the messages from the fake account & the emails from him - the police believed me and they went and spoke to him. But even then he continued to send me threatening emails saying he had filled the police in on a few blanks and I was going to get done with wasting police time.

Honestly, I felt like I was going crazy. It was hell. So I tried everything to get into the fake Facebook account so I could get the IP logs as this was the only way I could 100% know my ex was behind the face account. My ex had a lot of email addresses so I tried them with a password he used to use for nextflix and after the 3rd or 4th attempt I got into the fake account. So I screen shotted the IP logs and contacted my ex asking him to send a screenshot of the IP like he’s from his own Facebook account to see if any of them matched. I got a few excuses at first saying he couldn’t then he sent me an email confessing everything. It was like an extract from a book.

I know this all sounds so far fetched and crazy but this was my reality for a few months.

I obviously cut contact when he admitted everything and I spoke with DS child development officer, health visitor and speech and language, I explained I was really concerned about ex’s mental health and was worried about leaving DS with him. They all agreed that I should only allow supervised contact. I contacted ex’s mum and sister and explained everything to them, they also agreed it should be supervised contact going forward.

Ex continued to contact me saying the reason he did what he did was because he was suffering from depression and became obsessed with me. I don’t believe he had depression as every time I saw him he did not show any signs of mental illness. The professionals dealing with DS said the same, any time they saw my ex he presented himself as being a completely normal, articulate, intelligent, level headed guy. That’s the scary thing, he is highly intelligent and has a very successful job yet he seems to become someone else when he’s on his own??

The reason I’m writing this is because he’s still contacting my by email, albeit I haven’t replied, saying I need to let go of the hatred I feel for him and accept that he wasn’t emotionally well and that’s why he did all this stuff. He’s completely fine now and we need to start communicating and being civil to each other for DS sake. Well, wasn’t thinking of DS when he was stealing and catfishing me from a fake profile! And the amount of effort that went into the fake profile is scary! He was stealing this random guys pictures, screen recording his videos and had even made up a second fake account to make it look like the fake account had a friend.

So am I wrong to disbelieve him that he is suffering from depression? I actually think he has some sort of personality disorder. I sincerely don’t ever want to speak to or see him again after what he put me though. Am I wrong for feeling like this or should I give him the benefit of the doubt for DS sake?

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BueenQee · 13/11/2021 10:25

@knittingaddict

I don’t know if you have read the whole thread? I haven’t responded to him in months. I have gone grey rock. I ONLY respond to messages regarding DS via his mum or sister.

Since finding out it was him behind the fake account, I haven’t spoken to him and am trying to get on with my life. I have blocked him on everything so he contacts me by email - you can’t block email addresses. I am in the process of changing everything (banking..etc) over to a new email address so I will no longer have to access the email account for which he knows the address.

I had to prove the fake profile was him - 1. For my own sanity and 2. Because there is a baby with ASD involved in this and my ex is potentially dangerous. How could I just stop contact or change to supervised contact without proof? Getting into the fake profile didn’t muddy the waters for me, it gave me clarity. AND the proof I needed to to prove to myself that I wasn’t crazy and overly paranoid.

I came on here to ask for some advice as yet again, I’m questioning my decisions and wondering if I’m doing the right thing by ignoring him and only allowing supervised contact with DS as he continues to protest he is completely fine and only acted this way as he had suffered a bout of depression.

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Tempusfudgeit · 13/11/2021 10:32

You are doing the right thing by ignoring him and keeping your contact only about access to his child. HTH.

Gingerkittykat · 13/11/2021 10:46

Too much drama!

You need to stop engaging with him except if it has to do with your son. You need to set boundaries with that contact i.e. he is only allowed to contact you about pick up/ drop off details.

Why did you keep the conversation going with the random man off the internet for weeks instead of just blocking? It sounds like you might enjoy your own little bit of drama too.

You also can't diagnose people with neurodevelopmental disorders, mental health issues or personality disorders based on a post from an ex on a forum.

BueenQee · 13/11/2021 10:54

Jeez! I don’t think people are reading the whole thread.

  1. I am NOT engaging with him
  1. I was NOT conversing with the fake profile. I did block and ignore and he made another fake profile and continued to message me from that even though I wasn’t replying.
  1. I HAD to prove it was him as I felt like I was going off my head. Also, DS has suspected ASD and just now is non verbal. How could I allow him to have unsupervised contact with his dad who, out of the blue had started to behave this way? There was no reasoning behind it - we were friends at the time this was going on. How could I just stop contact or change to supervised contact without proof? People would have thought I was crazy
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BueenQee · 13/11/2021 10:55

Sorry - supervised contact

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justswaying · 13/11/2021 11:22
  • You need to stop engaging with him except if it has to do with your son. You need to set boundaries with that contact i.e. he is only allowed to contact you about pick up/ drop off details.

Why did you keep the conversation going with the random man off the internet for weeks instead of just blocking? It sounds like you might enjoy your own little bit of drama too.

You also can't diagnose people with neurodevelopmental disorders, mental health issues or personality disorders based on a post from an ex on a forum.*

Hmm sorry Op I agree with all this too.

BueenQee · 13/11/2021 11:30

I have not been engaging with him.

I did not keep a conversation going for weeks. I blocked the initial profile. He made a new one and started messaging me from that. He was claiming to be a personal trainer so I replied to ONE message and said I was interested in starting PT and did they have a phone number or business page.

I haven’t diagnosed anyone with anything?

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coronabeer · 13/11/2021 11:33

YABU to think he's (necessarily) lying about having depression. Lots of people with depression present "normally", without any obvious signs of mental illness.

Itsbritneybitchh · 13/11/2021 11:35

Why the fuck is everyone jumping on the OP because she tried exposed her, by the sounds of it, bat shit crazy, narcissistic, sociopath ex?

It’s women like you who enable men to behave like this!! Stop fucking victim blaming!!

caravanman · 13/11/2021 12:07

There are some really unpleasant comments on here, but I think that's something that is increasing on this forum. However, I just want to make one point clear. No-one can 'diagnose' someone with neurodevelopmental disorders, mental illness and so on (except perhaps specialists in the field). However, as human beings, we can and do speculate about possibilities and this may or may not lead to individuals considering assessment, or to others suggesting assessment. The OP is not claiming to 'diagnose' anyone.

TurnUpTurnip · 13/11/2021 12:44

God why didn’t you just block him and cut contact with your ex, why get into all that drama 🤦🏻

TurnUpTurnip · 13/11/2021 12:52

And it doesn’t matter if he has depression, you can’t be friends with this guy, not everyone can be friends with their ex, stick to the supervised contact and have nothing to with him, don’t email him back, don’t try to catch him out don’t engage with him on fake profiles

EmeraldShamrock · 13/11/2021 12:56

Yes feck him he is a manipulation master and is using it as a weapon.
Wow what a headache you've been true.
I'm sorry you have to have any contact with this person.

Itsbritneybitchh · 13/11/2021 13:01

Good god, I can’t believe some of the comments on this thread 🤦🏽‍♀️

To everyone saying the OP should have blocked, ignored and moved on, what reason would she then have given for reverting to supervised contact between her son and his dad? Or should she just have left someone who she had doubts over their sanity in charge of her son, and just forgot about the whole scenario?

PlanDeRaccordement · 13/11/2021 13:05

I obviously cut contact when he admitted everything and I spoke with DS child development officer, health visitor and speech and language, I explained I was really concerned about ex’s mental health and was worried about leaving DS with him. They all agreed that I should only allow supervised contact. I contacted ex’s mum and sister and explained everything to them, they also agreed it should be supervised contact going forward.

I agree with you that your ex is mentally ill. He most probably does not have depression, as he thinks he does. It is probably some other mental or personality disorder. It is not uncommon for mentally ill people to think they have a certain condition, when really they have a different one. I’d encourage him to seek professional help and not focus on believing whether he has depression specifically or not. The important thing is you believe (as do other professionals) that he is mentally ill and needs help. Exactly what that condition is is currently irrelevant. And I would not believe him saying he is “all better now” you need that in writing from a psychiatrist to believe it.

Itsbritneybitchh · 13/11/2021 13:05

And OP I say good for you for sticking to your guns and exposing this creep!! Too many people get away with things because victims are too scared to speak up in case they are blamed.

ScabbyHorse · 13/11/2021 13:23

He sounds manipulative and dishonest. I would be limiting even more his time with your child. And doing it through a contact centre instead of family. I would even consider moving house, if he knows where you live. Never become 'friends' with him again, you can't trust him.

Waahingwashingwashing · 13/11/2021 13:27

You hacked into his profile instead of just ignoring.

Go to the police if he continues it’s harassment.

Only communicate about the child and don’t engage in any convos with social media people you don’t actually know.

TurnUpTurnip · 13/11/2021 13:30

The thing is we don’t even know if he is actually having supervised contact? The family don’t exactly sound like they can be trusted. I would have stopped contact with the lot of them, and wouldn’t have ever tried to be “friends” the first time after what had happened previously

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 13/11/2021 14:33

This sounds horrendous OP. I quite understand why you wanted to know if the fake profile was him. It had legitimately strengthened your resolve to keep him at arms length.

Whether he has ASC, depression or any other condition does not excuse his awful behaviour to you. You do not need to forgive and forget, and for me, his lack of remorse and minimisation of the whole thing would prevent me from moving past this.

Continue to engage only with his mum and sister. Do they know all about what he’s done and the reasons for supervision?

mikulkin · 13/11/2021 15:08

I am sorry OP I still can’t understand why you needed to go through this investigation. Even if you suspected it was your ex behind the fake profile (which I agree is very odd thing for him to do) why is it a concern for your child? Does creating fake fb profiles make him a danger to child? He obviously is not over you and expresses it in very odd way but wouldn’t it have been easier just to distance yourself from him, limit everything to discussions about your DS only and ignore the fake profile whether there are one or 10 of them?

PikachuAndMe · 13/11/2021 15:24

Get a non molestation order and set up an intermediary for messages about contact. If he continues to contact you then go to the police. Doesn't matter what his mental state is he needs to stop harassing you.

Catflapkitkat · 14/11/2021 08:17

I get why you had to expose him and take your evidence to the police and child services. It's good that his mother and sister also believed you.

I agree with other posters, whether or not he has/had depression is not your concern. Depression is not excuse for his outrageous behaviour. He is trying to angle his way back in - hence the temerity of asking for an unsupervised overnight stay!

Stop reading unsolicited mail/contacts on Facebook. It's stressing you out and giving him access to your head. Make your account private and don't include him or his family. His mother/sister can contact you at a given number that they must not pass onto him. He can contact you via a solicitor.

It is not your place to heal him.

Good luck OP

FanGirlX · 14/11/2021 12:26

@BueenQee

Are drink and drugs involved? Some of what you said reminds me of my ex. The obsessing bit mainly.

BueenQee · 14/11/2021 12:39

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