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To think Dumbledore was a massive cheater?

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Slytherine · 07/11/2021 17:44

Just finished watching the first Harry Potter film on TV and forgot about the injustice for the Slytherins at the end. I have changed my name in solidarity.

So the Slytherins get the most House Points (presumably fairly as most of the professors at Hogwarts could barely hide their disdain for Slytherin House so wouldn’t have been dishing out points to them for no reason) and are sat there enjoying their win of the House Cup, and celebrating with the room decorated in their House colours, and then former Gryffindor Dumbledore just decides (even though the school year was officially over!!) to throw out an unreasonable amount of points to Harry, Hermione and Ron drawing them level with Slytherin, and then a further 10 points to Neville pushing Gryffindor over the edge and into the win. And then, just to rub salt into the wound, publicly humiliated them by casting a spell to replace all the Slytherin colours with the Gryffindor colours and gives them the award instead and they all celebrate, including him and most of the teachers, and Slytherin has to sit there and just accept it??

AIBU to think WTAF and that was very unfair and he was biased by doing this and it’s no wonder the Slytherins were openly hostile and dismissive of him after that!? I’d be fuming if I were a Slytherin student and if I were a parent of a Slytherin student I’d be marching up to the school myself and having a word with the head.

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Glassofshloer · 07/11/2021 22:39

@WithANameLikeDaniCalifornia

*I mean nobody is coming out of it well

Apart from Mrs Weasley of course*

Why couldn’t she just get a job though? The family is so poor Ron has to wear his granny’s dress. All the children were at boarding school all year and housework takes 2 seconds when you can use magic. What did Molly do all day?
I guess every story needs a token poor character/family

Haha I forgot about the dress and just snorted Grin

She should’ve got some kind of MLM thing going, selling poly juice potions maybe? 😉

BeefSupreme · 07/11/2021 22:40

@TitoMojito

Dumbledore was a twat. Everything he did was twatty. And the house points system was a mess. Points to Neville for trying to stop your friends breaking the rules. Shut up, man. It's as bad as when my school starting giving out prizes for using the bins.
Imagine telling the whole school that Neville was a snitch (not the flying ball kind). That would get you a beating at most schools. Dumbledore was not doing Neville a favour there.
SickAndTiredAgain · 07/11/2021 22:43

@WithANameLikeDaniCalifornia

*I mean nobody is coming out of it well

Apart from Mrs Weasley of course*

Why couldn’t she just get a job though? The family is so poor Ron has to wear his granny’s dress. All the children were at boarding school all year and housework takes 2 seconds when you can use magic. What did Molly do all day?
I guess every story needs a token poor character/family

Their money situation made no sense as it never improved. By book 6 they had two kids they needed to buy school supplies for and feed for the few weeks they came home, when a few years earlier they’d had 5. And before that they would have had at least one kid to feed all year round. Just how poorly paid was this ministry job that they struggled to pay for two sets of school supplies and a few weeks of food for some kids, but previously managed to pay for 5 sets of school supplies plus food during the holidays, plus two kids home full time. Then the rest of the time there was just the two of them at home. Surely a full time government job supports two people. I may be getting too involved..
WithANameLikeDaniCalifornia · 07/11/2021 22:45

@Glassofshloer Mama Weasley and her polyjuice potion pyramid scheme is the subplot I didn’t know I needed until now.

Glassofshloer · 07/11/2021 22:46

[quote WithANameLikeDaniCalifornia]@Glassofshloer Mama Weasley and her polyjuice potion pyramid scheme is the subplot I didn’t know I needed until now.[/quote]
Grin

ChargingBuck · 07/11/2021 22:51

See also Gandalf.

Right, @WheelieBinPrincess!

I have a huge soft spot for Gandalf, exacerbated by Ian McKellen's portrayal, but the giant eagles that rescued Sam & Frodo post-Ring disposal ...
WTF? You had man-sized, flying eagles?
Could you not have got one of them to FLY the Ring to Mount Doom & lob it in?

IWishToAnswerInTheAffirmative · 07/11/2021 22:52

Voldemort is my all time favourite baddie. He is just so wonderfully camp 😂

Queenoftheashes · 07/11/2021 22:55

The tea

MissCrowley · 07/11/2021 22:55

Wonder if we'll get a film with Voldy as the main character, along the lines of Maleficent or Cruella, showing us his view on everything and why he was so fucked up. Bless him. I actually feel for the guy.

Queenoftheashes · 07/11/2021 22:56

Is it obvious DP/anyone else in my real life doesn’t care to discuss Harry P?

AccidentallyOnPurpose · 07/11/2021 22:57

@whistleryukon

It really winds me up throughout all of the books that the supposed clever, brave, dynamic protagonists constantly fail to share information with one another that would no doubt help the cause/solve whatever it is that they want to solve. Harry does this all of the time, it's so arrogant. Also, why does Dumbledore keep so many things secret? Why would he share that he is Horcrux hunting with Harry but not with much more learned wizards like McGonagall etc who would have done a much better job of helping him?
Presumably because experienced wizards and witches would've put it all together a lot sooner and realised Harry was the last horcrux and interfered with his plans.
ChloeCrocodile · 07/11/2021 23:00

Yeah I always thought Harry and Sirius were weird. Just both desperate for James back I guess

Harry was a kid desperate for a parent. Sirius was living through Harry and failed to recognise that he was a person in his own right rather than a reincarnation of James. Molly recognised it and called him out on it. As did Hermione and Ron.

Well Malfoy didn't marry his 6th form partner. It was only the Harry-Ron-Hermione triangle.

And the previous generation. Lily and James, Molly and Arthur. It is a bit explained in the books - in times of war people get married sooner because who knows what tomorrow brings. But it annoyed me when it carried through the Harry, Ginny, Ron and Hermione. The vast majority of teenage relationships just don’t survive.

And yes, I know I’m overthinking it.

SouthsideSally · 07/11/2021 23:02

See.... I don't get all the Hermione love. I found her sanctimonious and judgemental. She treated Luna badly.

SickAndTiredAgain · 07/11/2021 23:06

@SouthsideSally

See.... I don't get all the Hermione love. I found her sanctimonious and judgemental. She treated Luna badly.
Did she? Or was she just a bit dismissive of Luna’s batshit conspiracy theories, and instead respond with actual facts. I’m not a big Luna fan. But I agree Hermione could be sanctimonious.
ChargingBuck · 07/11/2021 23:09

the Dursleys did take the baby when they could have just said 'nope' and had him put into care

@NeverDropYourMooncup I don't think they could - a later event features Dumbledore sending Mrs D a Howler, something along the lines of "Remember my last!?" (i.e. letter commanding you to take baby Harry on Or Else).

Sorry, can't recall the detail now, but definite 'backstory reveal' point. I think it's when Harry turned 17, & the family evacuate because the Charm now expires on 4 Privet Drive.

SickAndTiredAgain · 07/11/2021 23:10

But it annoyed me when it carried through the Harry, Ginny, Ron and Hermione. The vast majority of teenage relationships just don’t survive.

But hogwarts is the only wizarding school in the country. Unless they marry a muggle (which I know is an option but must be harder due to having to tell them you can do magic and then convince them you aren’t insane), they’ve met all their potential partners in the same country by the time they leave school. And it’s not that big of a school, there’s 5 Gryffindor boys in Harry and Ron’s year. If that’s average for boys and girls that’s 40 kids a year.

SickAndTiredAgain · 07/11/2021 23:12

@ChargingBuck I guess technically they could have said no, but I’m assuming dumbledore’s letter said “take him or he’ll probably be murdered” so didn’t leave much room for saying no, even for the Dursleys.

MushMonster · 07/11/2021 23:13

To be honest, I always thought that Slytherin was being bullied by the others.
Even when this blonde boy, I forgot his name, extended his hand to shake Harry's upon arrival to the school, he refused! He did not know the boy, or Slytherin, or anything! Just what others had said to him, yet he flipping refused to even take a chance to judge by himself!
No wonder thay had the attitude they exhibited for the remainder.
But..... that is exactly how issues arise in the real world, so something for children to learn.

Honeyroar · 07/11/2021 23:17

To be fair I think he refused to shake Draco’s hand because he’d just insulted Ron Weasley abs implied that he and Harry were better than Ron.

Glassofshloer · 07/11/2021 23:17

@SickAndTiredAgain

But it annoyed me when it carried through the Harry, Ginny, Ron and Hermione. The vast majority of teenage relationships just don’t survive.

But hogwarts is the only wizarding school in the country. Unless they marry a muggle (which I know is an option but must be harder due to having to tell them you can do magic and then convince them you aren’t insane), they’ve met all their potential partners in the same country by the time they leave school. And it’s not that big of a school, there’s 5 Gryffindor boys in Harry and Ron’s year. If that’s average for boys and girls that’s 40 kids a year.

5????

Does it actually say that or is that just the number of identifiable characters? Harry, Ron, Neville, Seamus and..?

WithANameLikeDaniCalifornia · 07/11/2021 23:18

@Queenoftheashes

Is it obvious DP/anyone else in my real life doesn’t care to discuss Harry P?
Halloween Grin Same, I have no one to discuss HP with. My dh has never read them or watched them. And my family thought they were satanic.
Choccyp1g · 07/11/2021 23:19

...Dean

SickAndTiredAgain · 07/11/2021 23:21

Even when this blonde boy, I forgot his name, extended his hand to shake Harry's upon arrival to the school, he refused! He did not know the boy, or Slytherin, or anything!

Malloy had just sneered at Ron for being poor and said that he could help Harry make sure he didn’t make friends with the wrong sort of people. He deserved to have his handshake rejected!

ChargingBuck · 07/11/2021 23:23

yet he flipping refused to even take a chance to judge by himself!

I think what he responded to most was Draco's sneering insinuation that Harry ought to take his guidance on who "the better sort" were, & that Ron was Not One Of Us.

Harry may only have been 11, but he recognised snobbery & exclusion when he saw it - having been well-schooled in the traits c/o the Dursleys.

Mishuckliza · 07/11/2021 23:26

I bloody love Dumbledore!! He makes me feel safe 🥰

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