Do you care about climate change?

[julieca]

Not just in an abstract way. But would you be prepared to accept radical changes to your lifestyle to reduce climate change?
Or do you think continuing to live your life the way you want is more important?

YABU - No I don't and I want to continue living life as I want
YANBU - Yes I do and would accept major changes to my life

This thread demonstrates perfectly why we need to fuck off completely and give other species a chance.

How many kids does Boris Johnson have. Him and the other leaders and billionaires are hardly good examples. Why should us plebs listen to these hypocrites when there are so many contradictions in what they say and what they actually do.

Good post HarrietsChariot

I do a lot, childless vegan who wfh, solar panels, recycling etc.

What I have just started realising that what else I need to do is speak up to companies. Commenting on companies Facebook pages and emailing and contacting them. For example, Co Op wrap up their cucumbers in plastic and whilst I can recycle that plastic, I agree with Bozo in that it’s better if that plastic is not used in the first place. So I took a photo and emailed co op.

Yes as consumers we need to watch what we buy, we also need to speak up and ask companies to do better. If companies believe that they need to step up to keep our money then they will be more likely to do something and we need numbers to make them listen, so please write an email, comment on Facebook or their social media and if Leo or Bozo catches a private plane then potentially pointing out politely their hypocrisy on social media isn’t a bad thing.

Speak up and keep discussing this, share the household products that are eco friendly that you find work.

It plays on my mind in everything I do.
However I have worked in a super market.
So I know that my little efforts are cancelled out 1000x fold.

@malificent7 I agree. Some of the posts here are absolutely shocking....yeah let’s get rid of 5 billion people. Are you signing up to carry out the mass genocide @HarrietsChariot or are you willing to sacrifice yourself?

While I am eco-conscious, I am also realistic and can see that individual action is futile in the face of bigger structures/ the power of money.

We’re resigned to our fate now. It’s too late and change is impossible. We need to speed up CC adaptation work, especially in developing countries where the impact will be greatest. Otherwise there will be mass global migration and people starving to death in huge numbers over the next few years.

Despite the bleak outlook, I’m not letting this get me down and ruin my mental health. It has the opposite effect for me - makes me feel very grateful for the wonderful life I’m living right now. How lucky am i to be living in the U.K. in 2021?! Everything I have is enough and I don’t aspire to having more.

I'm sick to death hearing all this waffle about climate change.

It's not waffle though is it? It's reality. I exoect people are sick of it asthey are scared/ feel helpless/ dont want to change etc etc etc.

We are doing our bit.

Haven't flown since 2013 and no intention of doing
All furniture, clothes etc 2nd hand and of excellent, long lasting quality
Recycle
All electric heating, rarely on as house is efficient although it's 400 years old (if cold extra clothes/blankets first)
Live very rurally so public transport laughable so one small efficient car plus I wfh
Other car 13 yrs old, reliable but big diesel to tow caravan for holiday (see no flights)- no plans to upgrade this vehicle. Also holiday locally where possible so my thinking is this vehicle cancels out its footprint for this use alone
Two adult children - one a scientist one a psychologist (both vital to modern future life) sustainability and mental health so no guilt of their carbon footprint 😊
Rarely travel out of local area
Small house just big enough for us two and a dog and cat
I have a horse who is vegan, lives locally and his poo is recycled
Food cooked from scratch - no wastage (see dog)
Investments and pensions in ESG funds and I work for a B-corp employer
Energy on 100% green tariff
Use shampoo bars now - they're good!
Never use the tumble drier and use eco wash where possible
Energy efficient light bulbs used in lamps at night so our house is only brightly lit in the kitchen (or cosy as I call it)
No dishwasher - wash up once a day

Things I am going to do more after reading this thread:
Cut down on diary and meat and investigate plant based
Limit online purchases where I can even more
Reduce cleaning products and plastic

Things I'm not sure about:
Electric vehicle - why change mine when I intend to keep ours until they die and the technology and infrastructure not good enough yet especially rurally plus the mining for the batteries and current battery life plus the expense
Solar panels
Heat pumps and prohibitive costs and lack of engineers to maintain
Getting rid of wood burner - used only on the coldest days and it's a small one - can heat the whole cottage though

I think we're doing enough right now but I need to see more from governments and big corps

We are not intelligent aa a species.
Everytime we drive we breathe in our own fumes which gives us breathing issues. Roads are directly both dangerous to our health and a blot on our landscape right outside our door.
Everytime we use plastic we pay for the recyling which increases council tax or ends up in landfill on our beautiful island...our habitat.

Eatng red meat contributes to bad air quality via methane emmisions which we breathe in.
So as a species we are quite content to soil our own nest and then say it dosnt affect us directly..it's someone elses problem.
We are therefore not intelligent hence my previous post. Natural selection will deselect us.

And btw i drive and buy plastic so i am part of the problem.

@malificent7

We are intelligent but in very specific ways. We aren’t wired to look too far into the future and make decisions in the here and now on the basis of what might happen. Try talking to a teenager about their pension and you’ll generally get a glazed over expression: it’s hard for them to care because it seems so far off.

I do care a lot and I find it utterly depressing that about 95% of the people I know don’t care at all. Some say they do but I don’t know many that would make even the tiniest change to their way of life for the sake of the environment.
Even the very educated people I know don’t really give a toss. I think we are all fucked to be honest.

Wouldn't use the word care. More concerned. I also realise that my individual actions won't really make a difference, hence I'll be conscientious and sensible, but won't make drastic changes.

And I fucking hate people that scrutinise and judge every single choice.

It takes world government policy to make real change. It's happening, albeit slower than a lot of people would like and ultimately necessary.