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If the clocks didn’t change, would you prefer BST or GMT?

149 replies

Rainbowheart1 · 01/11/2021 09:05

If they decided we wasn’t going to change the clocks anymore would you prefer this time staying GMT (being as the summer time has lots of daylight anyway) or would you prefer to always be on BST?

YABU -this time GMT
YANBU- BST

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UndertonesOfCake · 01/11/2021 17:18

BST - solely because it's much more practical for getting the dog walked after work!

Moooning · 01/11/2021 18:48

It depends on how far behind or ahead we are in relation to the rest of the world tbh. We're only 4 instead of 5 hours ahead of New York now, but 8 instead of the 7 we were behind Hong Kong/Singapore and Western Australia yesterday. That one hour makes all the difference if you're working with people or have family and friends in other parts of the world. Especially since Covid.

BST. I like dark mornings

Ellmau · 01/11/2021 20:20

GMT because it is the actual, correct time. Noon is at noon and midnight and midnight.

Lime37 · 01/11/2021 20:24

I like the changing of the clocks

Gubanc · 01/11/2021 20:38

BST. Hate driving in the dark at 4 bloody o'clock.

JassyRadlett · 01/11/2021 20:43

BST for me too. Only two days in and I’m already miserable about the dark afternoons, the kids coming home from clubs in the dark most days, and no chance of an enjoyable afternoon out at the weekend or in the holidays because it’s getting fucking dark by half three. By the time you’ve had lunch it’s half over.

JassyRadlett · 01/11/2021 20:44

@Ellmau

GMT because it is the actual, correct time. Noon is at noon and midnight and midnight.
I’m not sure how to break it to you that the measurement of time is totally invented.
Derrymum123 · 01/11/2021 20:49

GMT .

Letsallscreamatthesistene · 01/11/2021 20:57

Literally dont care as long as we stop fucking about with the clocks

Metabigot · 01/11/2021 21:01

I like the approach they used in olden times before electricity... the daylight hours were shorter in winter and the night time hours longer... so you basically worked when it was light and had long working days in summer and shorter in winter.

Disclaimer: not a historian. Learnt this at school about a million years ago

XingMing · 01/11/2021 21:28

There are only so many hours of light in the day at northern latitudes. Perhaps schools in Scotland could start an hour later and go on an hour longer in winter?

Moooning · 01/11/2021 21:29

@JassyRadlett Grin

EatSleepRantRepeat · 01/11/2021 21:39

I honestly don't understand why we change our clocks, instead of changing work routines with the seasons. Farmers are on their own schedules anyway, and it's easy enough for companies to say 'from 1st Nov we're open x time to x time' and change staff hours to suit. In my job in winter I'm in before sunrise and out after sunset anyway, but the disruption caused by the clocks changing really fucks with my SAD in both Autumn and Spring.

OublietteBravo · 01/11/2021 21:39

@JorisBohnson2

I like the approach they used in olden times before electricity... the daylight hours were shorter in winter and the night time hours longer... so you basically worked when it was light and had long working days in summer and shorter in winter.

Disclaimer: not a historian. Learnt this at school about a million years ago

Wasn’t the approach in olden times that everywhere had it's own time?
AlfonsoTheUnrepentant · 01/11/2021 21:41

I have no preference.

EatSleepRantRepeat · 01/11/2021 21:43

@JorisBohnson2

I like the approach they used in olden times before electricity... the daylight hours were shorter in winter and the night time hours longer... so you basically worked when it was light and had long working days in summer and shorter in winter.

Disclaimer: not a historian. Learnt this at school about a million years ago

I would love this. I don't care about light evenings so much, so I'd love to work flexible hours which are shorter in winter and longer in summer. Working so many hours in flourescent lighting in winter is miserable.
notimagain · 01/11/2021 21:50

Wasn’t the approach in olden times that everywhere had it's own time?

Yep based on the local position of the Sun (roughly speaking, to a first approximation, local Noon was deemed to be when the Sun was due south in the sky at that location)

All supposedly had to standardized in the Uk with the arrival of the railways….

www.webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/d.html

olivehater · 01/11/2021 21:51

Bst so we can make the most of our summer and enjoy lovely summer evenings. Once the sun goes down it’s not warm enough to sit outside except in the height of summer so anything that eeke it out is a winner.
Winter is shit whatever you do so may as well just enjoy summer to the max!

DamnShesaSexyChick · 01/11/2021 22:02

I like the system we have now, no need to change it.

JudgeJ · 01/11/2021 22:07

@Sonex

I remember the Scottish farmer argument too. I met a Scottish farmer recently and he said he doesn't care anymore because his tractors are all automated now and self drive over GPS so he'd just get up when it was light and go and check on them then Grin
I'm in rural Norfolk and it's quite ususal to have massive farm vehicles up and down the road after dark and working in the fields in the dark with huge lights on. It can be quite scarey when you first meet one of these after dark, it's a bit like the opening scene to an American horror film, being chased by huge trucks!
JudgeJ · 01/11/2021 22:08

@DamnShesaSexyChick

I like the system we have now, no need to change it.
I agree but do wish Sky would sort their EPG out, it's very confusing.
RaisedByPangolins · 01/11/2021 22:11

Given that our schools all start at different times anyway, surely in the north of Scotland they could just change the start and end times for school? Same with farmers - why can they just change their alarm and get up when they need to, regardless of the number on the clock?!

ichundich · 01/11/2021 22:12

BST. I had how early it gets dark between November and February.

JaninaDuszejko · 01/11/2021 22:13

GMT. Which if we were part of the EU we'd be permanently on since they want to scrap 'daylight saving hours', i.e. BST.

I grew up in the far north, which is also importantly far west of Greenwich as well (the meridian doesn't pass through Scotland or indeed the north of England). There's officially 6h of daylight in the winter but the sun is so low in the sky it feels like much less and it often doesn't feel like daylight until after 10am, it would even worse if we were BST all year round. Conversely, in the summer it never really gets dark, the sun dips below the horizon but there's still lots of light in the northern sky so BST is of no benefit.

Really we should be GMT -0.5 since most of the country is west of the Meridian.

JudgeJ · 01/11/2021 22:13

@pigsDOfly

BST as well.

Wasn't there talk of not changing the clocks a few years ago.

The idea was discarded, if I remember correctly, because Scottish farmers didn't want so many hours of darkness in the mornings, at least I think that was the reason.

I seem to recall there being one year when we didn't change, can't recall why though and don't know why it went back to changing.