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If you attended private/grammar school, what is your job role and salary?

539 replies

Z3lda · 31/10/2021 08:24

Extremely nosey I know and obviously no one is obliged to share. But I'm just intrigued as it seems many are quite desperate to get their children into the best private or grammar school, but I just wondered what kind of jobs and salaries students from these schools go on to actually have? I know that education provides children with far more than just a path to a specific job and salary, but I do think many send their children to these schools for this reason.

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68degreesnorth · 03/11/2021 10:51

@Xenia in this case it was in order to get a job as a consultant

DallasDerby · 03/11/2021 12:47

[quote 68degreesnorth]@DallasDerby thank you! I'm wondering how you show/prove your talents in a particular area... In my current career for example, I own a business, so would the proof be in your annual turnover, expected growth and number of employees? If anyone looked at my business from those perspectives it's not very successful, but in other ways it is a successful business nevertheless. See what I mean? [/quote]
Sorry I have no idea what you mean with your business success example. We test our candidates via written assessments, analytical assessments and technical interviews - they need to be able to discuss in depth, current and future issues in our specialism and offer views and solutions to the problems we suggest to them, just as they would need to be able to do with a client.

DallasDerby · 03/11/2021 13:00

[quote 68degreesnorth]@Xenia in this case it was in order to get a job as a consultant[/quote]
Your business is not financially successful and that is the point of business - we are not a charity - how are you measuring success?

DidoAeneas · 03/11/2021 13:15

@68degreesnorth
It can sometimes help if you have a masters in your specialist field or an MBA. None of us know exactly what 'business as unusual' is going to look like but I'd be surprised if travel / overnight assignments at least in domestic markets are not back on the table next year. It adds to the cost of childcare if you/you're both away on business at the same time unless you have a live in nanny etc. Even then, my mother was a regular feature as she would deal with more of the housekeeping side of things (like new furniture or builders arriving) while the nanny was ferrying between music/dance lessons. I suppose it took two women to replace me! Grin

Titsywoo · 03/11/2021 13:18

I'm on £25k a year - private school. DH is on £130k a year - state school. That is more due to me taking a back seat for childcare though so the difference between male and female privately and state educated is probably a factor.

68degreesnorth · 03/11/2021 13:26

@DallasDerby not suggesting you're a charity. I'm genuinely curious as to how people become consultants. My 'success' is creating two regular salaries from a business that gives myself and my partner time, freedom and a good work/life balance. It was once suggested to me that I should become a consultant - hence I was curious.

DallasDerby · 03/11/2021 13:40

[quote 68degreesnorth]@DallasDerby not suggesting you're a charity. I'm genuinely curious as to how people become consultants. My 'success' is creating two regular salaries from a business that gives myself and my partner time, freedom and a good work/life balance. It was once suggested to me that I should become a consultant - hence I was curious. [/quote]
A consultant in what, sorry I am confused - do you think someone will pay you to replicate your business model? Who do you see as your client? Industry or individuals?

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 03/11/2021 13:41

[quote DidoAeneas]@68degreesnorth
It can sometimes help if you have a masters in your specialist field or an MBA. None of us know exactly what 'business as unusual' is going to look like but I'd be surprised if travel / overnight assignments at least in domestic markets are not back on the table next year. It adds to the cost of childcare if you/you're both away on business at the same time unless you have a live in nanny etc. Even then, my mother was a regular feature as she would deal with more of the housekeeping side of things (like new furniture or builders arriving) while the nanny was ferrying between music/dance lessons. I suppose it took two women to replace me! Grin[/quote]
That's because they both have their own lives also. Different if nanny is a full time live in nanny/housekeeper.

Xenia · 03/11/2021 15:37

I understand now. Some of my sons' friends have got graduate jobs in firms of management consultants. These are very very hard to get at that entry level and you need a stellar CV etc even to get a look in. Those jobs are on a par with City lawyers (£80k on qualifying), top accountancy firms and all the banking graduate jobs at financial services companies and hedge funds. It is on that last of the highest paid and hardest to get into work. Most people who apply fail to get in.

Firesidefox · 03/11/2021 15:47

@ThanksItHasPockets

A much more interesting question IMHO is whether those who were privately educated can afford and / or choose to send their own children private. My anecdotal experience is that friends who were privately educated on one professional salary in the 80s and 90s cannot afford the same for their own children unless they are in very very high-earning careers, or the grandparents are paying.
This is true
DallasDerby · 03/11/2021 16:16

@Xenia

I understand now. Some of my sons' friends have got graduate jobs in firms of management consultants. These are very very hard to get at that entry level and you need a stellar CV etc even to get a look in. Those jobs are on a par with City lawyers (£80k on qualifying), top accountancy firms and all the banking graduate jobs at financial services companies and hedge funds. It is on that last of the highest paid and hardest to get into work. Most people who apply fail to get in.
What do management consultants get qualified in?

It is hard to get in because the combination of skills is extremely hard to find. Everyone focuses on the academic but for consultancy the soft skills are just as important and it's bloody amazing how few people have them, but then most of these kids have over focused on their academics, soft skills don't get the same priority and often an overly competitive nature will work against you as you struggle to demonstrate you can be a team player.

DallasDerby · 03/11/2021 16:52

@68degreesnorth You might find this useful

www.preplounge.com/en/management-consultant-salary-uk

Winecrispschocolatecats · 03/11/2021 17:15

Me - early 50s, grammar & good university, salary £34k. I've never been that career oriented and havehappilyturned down promotion opportunities to maintain a decent work/life balance.
DH - late 40s, comprehensive school, redbrick university, earns around £120k. Not massively ambitious, but found a niche he really enjoys and which is in demand.

A good education is always going to be an advantage, but drive and determination are far more important I think. And a decent sprinkling of luck!

Xenia · 03/11/2021 17:28

I also wanted my children to have a broad range of skills and parents can provide that at home and hope they get it in school so eg mine would know how to forage for food or keep going on long distance hikes or know how to find water in forests and how to live a balanced lice and have loads of hobbies. Those are not just things you learn at private or state schools but at home too but they are all part of the broader term of education. I want them to be able to perform classical music with me at home (I sing and play every day) and a large range of other things from driving a car at 17 to knowing about life skills and tax and how to cope no matter what life throws at you.

Waahingwashingwashing · 03/11/2021 17:29

Haven’t read the thread (apologies) but are you differentiating grammars in Northern Ireland? They are much less class based in NI than elsewhere

nancybotwinbloom · 03/11/2021 18:02

State school.
£50k with car plus 15% bonus.

Commission replacing bonus starting from next year. So probably all going as is, I will earn a lot more than the 15% bonus.

Sales and account management.

zinky · 03/11/2021 21:59

Partner 38, 130k, private boarding school
Me, 35, 55k, international private school abroad

Jerrysgonnabeacableboy · 05/11/2021 00:45

My best friends husband earns the most of anyone I know really. She went the to grammar I did but now is a occupational therapist in the NHS so doesn't earn huge. He dropped out of the local comp before a levels. Never did well in school but liked computers and earns loads now.

My best friend is similar. Top elite girls' private school, she did a low level bachelor degree and then became a SAHM. Now she's training to be a primary school teacher. I'm sure she'll be great but she won't be earning much.

Her husband went to a decent school but scored in the lowest 15% of the state (lived outside U.K.) for his leaving exams because he couldn't be bothered. He's now a millionaire stockbroker so they live a comfortable life together.

ShabsLovesTiff · 28/11/2021 05:16

500k a year 😱

Send me some I only earn 12-16k a year if I work full time!!

I live in the north east of England and live in a council house desperately tying for a baby and struggling would love to try via ivf but costs are way to high for me!

You lot all on high paying wages or incomes probably never known what it’s like to struggle or have the past that I have and traumas etc? You should all think yourselves lucky that you had the opportunity to go to a private school or have private education I was born in 1986 my mother didn’t work and my father was a taxi driver we scraped by then my mother left my dad met other people went on to having 6 kids and being a single mum of 6 with only state money coming in! We didn’t have luxuries of any kind or a chance to go into the Privste sector of education and to say for example “we only bring in 200k a year” or “500k a year”makes me sick. Especially looking out on the state of the country/world what’s happening in it, that you lot probably can’t see thru your special rose tinted glasses and protective bubbles.

Going to stop ranting now because these comments are appalling and sickening me.

ShabsLovesTiff · 28/11/2021 05:45

Idk., I mean I somewhat agree with the comment about PS and work ethic and motivation etc, but most PS students cannot skive most days due to home affairs or being bullied or thinking my family pay 20k+ a year or struggle to afford to send me here. Any of them would def give me motivation!! Then the ones who actually board cant do the skiving?

People have also stated that a cambridge / oxford ??

BritWifeInUSA · 28/11/2021 06:05

Grammar school in the UK. Senior account manager in aviation. $125,000 in the US.

Cici22 · 28/11/2021 06:14

@2reefsin30knots

I'm relatively poorly paid (50k) but I chose a specialist role that is interesting to me. Our combined household income is about 200k, but neither of us 'went for the money'. Good academic CV does give you those choices. You don't have to attend an independent school to have a good academic cv.
If you think 50k is poorly paid, you are deluded
ElectraBlue · 28/11/2021 07:12

'We own property. I earn around £65,000 net from that per annum.''

That's not a job....

OmgIThinkILikeYou · 28/11/2021 07:16

Account Manager, £37k.

I didn't go to university and honestly feel private schooling is a bit of a rip off. Save your money and use it to help them get on the housing ladder.

Shitandhills · 28/11/2021 07:42

Provate school, I earn 45k as a social researcher outside of London. If I'd have stayed working as a a management consultant I'd be on 200k+ but chose to do something which inspires me, and 45k is ample. Partner went to state school and is a GP earning similar.

Whilst I feel very fortunate for the career opportunities available to me, and conscious of how privileged I am, I personally wish I had gone to state school. I feel I was in a bubble at private school, mixing with people who were clueless about life outside their own privileged environment, meaning that I also knew no different. It would have been very easy to stay in that world had I not stepped away from my original job to do something different. I am a much better and more rounded person as a result. This is just my personal experience, I don't want to cast shade on anybody else who was privately educated because obviously that isn't the only factor that shapes children and it would be unfair to say that all privately educated people aren't aware of their privilege.

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