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To think let’s get on with it is currently one of the most stupid phrases in the English language

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lateforschool · 21/10/2021 10:15

I’m in Spain at the moment. Higher vaccination rates (we are 13th in Europe despite the government spouting on like a communist propaganda machine about our amazing roll out). There are far, far fewer daily deaths and hospitalisations (as is the case across all of Europe). And people in this city seem to be having a great time: no vaccine passports and bars and restaurants open.

And yet everywhere, no one is sprawling on buses and queues and public buildings and the train thinking they don’t have to wear a mask because they’re an exception (including the children). It’s helps thst masks here are dirt cheap (50 for four pounds) and there are signs telling people to think of others and be compliant rather than ‘take responsibility’ for themselves (as if Covid isn’t principally a public health crisis not a personal one).
Masks are such a tiny inconvenience, as is social distancing. Same with the vaccines for teens - everywhere else is doing these based on public health reasons. One shot has no scientific backing and people have been encouraged to think of themselves and not the vulnerable when getting shots - when a vaccine for your child is a vaccine that helps protect all, including the old.
It’s possible to have a good life and protect others in simple steps. It is possible to ‘get on with it’ without pretending we are not still in a pandemic as is the case now.
I don’t think English people are by culture so selfish and stupid. it’s down poor leadership - muddled messages by stupid government officials has turned us into a nation of selfish twats.

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Burnt0utMum · 21/10/2021 10:17

YABU. We have to "get on with it" eventually. Especially for kids who have spent a huge proportion of their childhood living with this.

lateforschool · 21/10/2021 10:21

But people are getting on with it. Kids in the schools here seem to be having fun as they spill onto streets. But that doesn’t stop masks, consideration for others, proper vaccination (75 per cent of adolescents have had one shot and 40 per cent are fully vaccinated) and social distancing. Getting on with it doesn’t mean ignoring the pandemic.

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Iggly · 21/10/2021 10:21

I agree. Wearing masks isn’t a personal responsibility- that makes it sound like you only have to worry about yourself. It’s a public health matter.

But then again selfish behaviour is the hallmark of a Tory

Iggly · 21/10/2021 10:22

@Burnt0utMum

YABU. We have to "get on with it" eventually. Especially for kids who have spent a huge proportion of their childhood living with this.
How does a mask and getting jabbed stop you from getting on with it?

I’ve got a mask on my person to wear when I need to. Last time I checked, it didn’t hold me back.

Burnt0utMum · 21/10/2021 10:24

I don't think vaccinating kids to protect others is right if it doesn't offer the kids any substantial health benefit. Masks are also unnecessary and hinder communication.

lateforschool · 21/10/2021 10:29

Really???
‘Unnecessary’ (why - the world health organisation and all national government don’t agree , including ours - they just don’t enforce it).
And ‘hinder communication’ on the underground or in Sainsburys v. Prevent the spread of a potentially deadly disease with a super high mortality even among the vaccinated elderly?
If you really want an easy conversation go inside a house with your pals or stand outside.

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Iggly · 21/10/2021 10:30

@Burnt0utMum

I don't think vaccinating kids to protect others is right if it doesn't offer the kids any substantial health benefit. Masks are also unnecessary and hinder communication.
How? I wear a mask when I don’t need to talk eg on a long train journey or in a health care setting. Not a big deal. I’ll take it down if I need to talk
Bobsyer · 21/10/2021 10:30

YABU because British people have proven, seen on the first post here, that they are inherently selfish.

We’re still wearing masks when out and about, and 4/5 of our family has had the vaccine. I don’t see that as a hardship tbh. In Japan it’s completely the norm to wear face masks when unwell or to protect against pollution. It should be the norm here too, not just when a pandemic is sweeping through the country.

(Yes yes I’m sure everyone will be along to tell me they’re exempt because of and that’s fine. Clearly not talking about you)

Burnt0utMum · 21/10/2021 10:32

Super high mortality? That's the problem - scaremongering.

lateforschool · 21/10/2021 10:35

The double vaxxed elderly have the same mortality risk as a vaxxed 50 year old.
Bit if it makes you feel better I will change it to ‘high’ - the elderly are at high risk

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lateforschool · 21/10/2021 10:36

Unvaxxed 50 year old

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coffeerevelsrock · 21/10/2021 10:38

Completely agree and wish I lived somewhere like that. The messaging here is awful and seems to be bringing out the worst in people. I'm a teacher in a secondary school and on the day we had the vaccines some students didn't have it. When asked by another lad why he wasn't having it, one boy replied, "We don't need it. It doesn't affect us." So much wrong with that sentiment that I despair. Not because it's selfish but because it's wrongheaded - it holds us all back if the virus is more prevalent due to lower take up of the vaccines but that message isn't getting across.

Then you have the press conference yesterday: "Rates are up...it's very bad...could get worse...so we're doing.........nothing. But there's a drug that might help in the summer..." Just hopeless. And apparently nearly 200 people a day dying is 'mercifully low'. Disgusting.

AgentProvocateur · 21/10/2021 10:58

I’m in the Middle East and our daily cases are minimal now (as in double figures) but we’ve all been wearing masks throughout including in schools and offices. Apart from that, life is back to normal here. The only people not wearing them are tourists.

KrispyKale · 21/10/2021 11:00

Op a lot of teens here are waiting for the opportunity to have a vaccine.

KrispyKale · 21/10/2021 11:01

One shot for teens is due to balancing with risks of side effect. I think it's an interesting approach and not crazy at all.

ssd · 21/10/2021 11:04

British people hate being told what to do. They always know better. And they love a fucking moan.

secretllama · 21/10/2021 11:05

I wish people would stop minimising the effect masks and social distancing has on people. Just because it's not a big deal for you doesn't mean other people are happy to wear masks. I fucking hate them and I fucking hate social distancing.

KrispyKale · 21/10/2021 11:06

Masks are being worn in Scotland and the cases are high.

AnnPerkins · 21/10/2021 11:10

YANBU What do the 'get on with it' people think when they see the UK's current figures compared with similar countries in Europe? How do they think those countries are keeping cases and deaths so much lower than ours?

Bobsyer · 21/10/2021 11:24

@ssd

British people hate being told what to do. They always know better. And they love a fucking moan.
Tru dat Grin
ssd · 21/10/2021 11:55

@secretllama

I wish people would stop minimising the effect masks and social distancing has on people. Just because it's not a big deal for you doesn't mean other people are happy to wear masks. I fucking hate them and I fucking hate social distancing.
You'd fucking hate dying from covid more.
secretllama · 21/10/2021 12:48

@ssd sure. I'd also hate dying (from anything - remember people died before covid?) after living a life were social distancing was normal. Life is short. If covids another risk in it then so be it.

lateforschool · 21/10/2021 13:54

This is what selfish means: you are happy to take the risk but your actions put others at risk

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secretllama · 21/10/2021 14:11

Did you wear masks, socially distance, stay in your house, avoid social gatherings and generally make sacrifices in your life for a virus etc prior to 2020? No? How selfish of you. Funny how people didn't care about spreading diseases before then. Most of the vulnerable have been vaccinated for covid.

ssd · 21/10/2021 14:18

There's no point in discussing this with you @secretllama. You're ok so bugger everyone else.

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