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AIBU?

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To think he shouldn't have got that drunk

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hereforthechat · 18/10/2021 20:23

My husband and I went out to an event at the weekend and his parents came over to babysit. They are mid 70s, our children are 4 & 7. We got home around midnight. The 4 year old went to sleep about 9.30 and my 7 year old was up later (not sure precisely).

When we got home at midnight, FIL was so drunk he could barely talk. MIL doesn't drink so was fine. AIBU to think that FIL shouldn't have done that. Yes there was still another sober adult but I just feel it was completely unnecessary. As the kids went to bed quite late I am certain he was drunk whilst they were awake.

For context in the morning there were 2 empty gin bottles and 1 empty tonic so basically he was tanking straight gin all night. Not normal or ok surely.

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hereforthechat · 18/10/2021 21:45

@Wolfiefan

If he thinks it is ok for the kids to be looked after by someone who has drunk a bottle of gin then he needs to get a grip. Plus how would he and his mum feel if his dad had an accident, killed someone or was imprisoned because of drunk driving? This is not ok. What if kids go to school and happen to mention something about being left with shitfaced grandad whilst you were out?

I fully agree. I think they would deny he drink drives though.

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Wolfiefan · 18/10/2021 22:08

So look up the facts. How long does it take for the body (on average) to process a unit of alcohol? How many in a bottle of gin?

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hereforthechat · 18/10/2021 22:11

@Wolfiefan

So look up the facts. How long does it take for the body (on average) to process a unit of alcohol? How many in a bottle of gin?

I 100% will do this

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Wolfiefan · 18/10/2021 22:12

Good luck OP. At least your kids have one parent who is ready to protect them from this alcoholic.

mummabubs · 18/10/2021 22:21

Personally I think you've taken the right stance in saying they won't babysit again. We have a very similar situation but with MiL, subsequently I won't let them babysit but DH thinks it's not an issue. I grew up with alcoholic grandparents and it definitely can affect children. They can tell when their relatives aren't acting right and aren't emotionally in tune or available to them. As a side note does your MiL drive at all? If not then they'd be in a real pickle if whilst babysitting your kids anyone was injured and the only driver was utterly pissed.

PrawnofthePatriarchy · 18/10/2021 22:43

mummabubs is right. Being exposed to active alcoholism is damaging to DC. My DF was a drinking alcoholic when I was young and it definitely damaged me. His long years of sobriety - and mine - put it right but his drinking was the reason that when I hit a significant bump in the road as a young adult I turned straight to booze.

junebirthdaygirl · 19/10/2021 03:47

Your poor mil obviously has this every night as he couldn't even stay sober one night to take care of his own gc. It takes a high level of dependency to bring a bottle of gin babysitting. Most alcoholics can manage some days sober. Could dh not say to them that him getting drunk was completely inappropriate although he sounds in as much denial as your mil.

How would he feel if he heard a teacher in his child's school was drunk in charge of children..there would be other adults there. Or a sports coach. Its a sackable offence. I think it is a good opportunity for dh and any brothers to tackle fil about his drinking. They live rurally so if he falls etc mil will be in a right mess or if he is put off the road for drunken driving she will be completely stranded. Maybe dh supporting his mum would be the catalyst she needs to take a stand.

Zugs · 19/10/2021 04:43

"My husband and I went out to an event at the weekend and his parents came over to babysit. They are mid 70s..."
Interesting that they "came over to babysit" - not that you asked them to do you a favour so you could have a night out.

I'm guessing that your FIL is a lost cause, unlikely that you are in a position to help him or MIL.

So, what is your objective? To try to save FIL. MIL or to berate your DP over this or what?

No immediate harm was done.

My advice: let it pass, you can only do harm. I wouldn't ask them to babysit again and maintain what relationships you have, however imperfect.

Addicts need to decide for themselves - you can't force this kind of change. Try taking away a smokers fags/drinkers booze etc

When i talk about in laws with DP, i tread carefully even when talking about the most glaring issues.

All you will do is entrench your DP's position and possibly create a fight that's not yours.

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hereforthechat · 19/10/2021 06:54

@Zugs I think you are correct. It probably isn't my fight and I don't think anyone will listen to me. The drunk driving thing s something I need to find out more about as I can't let that happen but that's probably it. And yes definitely no more babysitting

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lnsufficientFuns · 19/10/2021 07:01

My dad is in a care home with a load of dementia patients purely because of alcohol.

There is nothing we can do about it

He can’t walk and is doubly incontinent. It’s critical that you get him help.

HotelCaliforniaOnRepeat · 19/10/2021 07:24

@Wolfiefan

So look up the facts. How long does it take for the body (on average) to process a unit of alcohol? How many in a bottle of gin?

@hereforthechat assuming standard strength gin, 25ml is 1 unit. So 500ml = 20 units 700ml = 28 units. The body usually processes a unit per hour. However, if he's drinking the kind of quantity you mention, he's never going to be fit to drive on a daily basis as it will take him longer to process it than the time between starting to drink again. If he drank 28 units, then he'd need to not drive and not drink the following day at all to get it out of his system.

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hereforthechat · 19/10/2021 07:39

@HotelCaliforniaOnRepeat that's some scary maths. Terrifying to think he may never be sober enough to drive yet lives somewhere where he can walk to nowhere and MIL seems to have stopped driving.

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Auroreforet · 19/10/2021 08:05

@Zugs
‘Interesting that they "came over to babysit" - not that you asked them to do you a favour so you could have a night out.’

That’s what babysitting is if you’re family! They came over to babysit.

PaulGallico · 19/10/2021 08:34

He shouldn't drink when babysitting. Not sure he would drink as much neat gin as you have suggested here. With such young children I do not think I would stay in bed until lunchtime the following day - did they go home or was father in law still with the children? If so, I think you are taking advantage of them.

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hereforthechat · 19/10/2021 20:16

@PaulGallico

Are you referring to me being in bed when they left? My husband was with the kids at that point. We resumed responsibility as soon as we arrived home in the evening. I was in bed because I hadn't slept all night due to a medical issue, I wasn't just being lazy. 100% not taking advantage of anyone. It's the first time they have babysat in 2 years. I'm also not lying about what he drank, I wish I was!

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HappyGoLuckyLuLu · 19/10/2021 21:47

Doesn't sound good that's for sure. Do you know for definite that the other gin bottle was full to start out with? Either way agree that this sounds like a problem and not appropriate for babysitting

Sunset999 · 19/10/2021 21:49

Bit odd but least 1 adult sober

Deadringer · 19/10/2021 21:51

What the hell was he doing getting pissed in your house? I would be raging.

ShepherdMoons · 19/10/2021 21:59

I've only read the first few posts but the amount of alcohol does sound excessive. That's a lot of gin! I wouldn't be happy about your FIL babysitting again, could you have a word with your MIL about it? It can't be good for his health.

skeemee · 19/10/2021 22:32

Only a suggestion, but could FIL have brought over an already opened bottle of gin? So not necessarily a full bottle as well as whatever you had leftover? Clutching at straws, but possibly not as bad as what you are imagining?

BurntO · 19/10/2021 22:51

With one sober adult I would be ok with out having a couple of drinks. But so drink they can barely talk? I’d never have them over to watch my kids again

toomuchlaundry · 19/10/2021 23:51

No matter how much gin he brought with him he was so drunk he could barely talk, which is not acceptable if you are babysitting. And if he is a regular heavy drinker than I assume he must have drunk quite a lot to be in that state.

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hereforthechat · 20/10/2021 19:49

@skeemee

This is something I hadn't considered. I think it's unlikely given that he could barely talk but possible nonetheless. I have decided to never ask them to babysit again and go back to life where we rarely see them. I will not be inter-fearing with the drinking unless I think he is drunk driving. I have tried to talk to DH about it but he isn't interested. MIL would be the same.

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mum11970 · 20/10/2021 20:03

If you didn’t see the bottle of gin he had with him how do you know it was a full bottle? It could have had any amount in it. If he only brought one bottle of tonic then I presume it wasn’t full. Unfortunately he decided to polish off what was left in your bottle too.

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