Jimmy Savile

[wavingwhilstdrowning]

AIBU to say that the BBC should not be making a film about Jimmy Savile. They should not be profiting form his victims misery. Savile attacked at least 450 victims.

Once again his photograph is everywhere, retraumatising his victims who have been treated horrifically by the BBC.

for full disclosure I gave evidence at Operation Yewtree.

Usual crowing horror and glee that these writers and producers have with these things. It's not going to help anyone or stop future pepertrators.

Because it's always more important to tell the man's story. Nobody gives a shit about victims. Our society would look unrecognisably different if they did.

Some things should not be entertainment. This is one of them.

ITV has made several documentaries with victims
The BBC makes a film with Steve Coogan. That'll sell well abroad won't it?

Thank you for validating my feelings

I think yabu slightly altho I do sympathise it must be very hard for you.
He was a public figure and so of course at some point they were going to make a film about this stuff.
I just hope its done well... if so it could get people to see how this type of thing happens and goes on without being called out at the time.
For instance I dont know if you saw the drama 'Three Girls' about the Rochdale girls who were groomed? I thought that was so beautifully done. It was really moving and shone a light on why it was so hard for the girls to come forward and the police failings.
I think dramas like that can really change public perspective.
Savile chose young girls who were vulnerable because he thought they wouldn't be listened to and he would get away with it... I think its really important to educate the public about how victims may present and how these predatory men get away with it so that views change and the way victims are treated changes.
Drama is a very good way of changing public perspectives. Hopefully if enough people understand how grooming occurs it will make it a lot less easy for men to do this in the future.

It really depends on how this has been made tho. Im going to reserve judgement on it until I see it.
I hope its as sensitive as Three Girls was and not just some mawkish entertainment

As an institution they enabled him, and have shown little contrition.
This is brazen act of fuck you to his victims.
Unless it explores in depth the mindset and values and people within a national broadcaster who colluded with an sex and child abuser to help him

I have seen 3 girls. I work with victims of CSE. I live in the NW.
One of the girls had her child removed last year as she was unable to keep her safe. The men who attacked the girls are free, their lives are damaged for ever due to the trauma. I don't think it helped.

I agree OP. I don't have any personal experience of JS, however I feel dreadful whenever I see or hear his name and anything relating to him.

I was shocked when I heard about this film and don't understand why anyone want anything to do with it. I will be giving this film a wide berth. I can only imagine how the people feel who have been a victim of his, and those who were complicit, evilness.

@AuraofDora

As an institution they enabled him, and have shown little contrition. This is brazen act of fuck you to his victims. Unless it explores in depth the mindset and values and people within a national broadcaster who colluded with an sex and child abuser to help him

This is the point. I would be a bit if sky or ITV made it, but the BBC enabled his abuse and threatened his victims.

Yes I agree OP, must be very traumatic for the victims.

@AuraofDora I'd say no contrition at all. I am listed as a vexatious complainant because I sent them evidence that I'd reported JS recreated at the time.

I'm not interested in the story of a disgusting criminal, what I would be interested to see is something on all the bystanders, those who covered for him. I still don't think we know 'who knew what'. I doubt that will get made though...

@Wisteriac43

I'm not interested in the story of a disgusting criminal, what I would be interested to see is something on all the bystanders, those who covered for him. I still don't think we know 'who knew what'. I doubt that will get made though...

Yes, me too.

I quite pathetically wrote to ester rantzen thinking she'd sort it all out.....

@AuraofDora

As an institution they enabled him, and have shown little contrition. This is brazen act of fuck you to his victims. Unless it explores in depth the mindset and values and people within a national broadcaster who colluded with an sex and child abuser to help him

Yep - they could also publish a list of BBC people who enabled Savile and who are living in comfortable retirement on BBC pensions - but they won't.

@Wisteriac43

I'm not interested in the story of a disgusting criminal, what I would be interested to see is something on all the bystanders, those who covered for him. I still don't think we know 'who knew what'. I doubt that will get made though...

Exactly

Really distasteful project, especially because the BBC are at the helm. They should look at all of the conversation around this online and just drop the project.

Completely agree with you OP. I feel a bit uncomfortable about any real life crime being made into entertainment, especially if it was only recent (as the findings about Savile are).

Although that maybe makes me a hypocrite as I was very engaged with the drama about the Jeremy Bamber case - although a good 30 years had gone by in the interim.

I agree with a pp who said some things should never be entertainment.

I am shocked the BBC are even considering this (though why I’m shocked I don’t know)

A series of documentaries on the impact of the terrible abuse he inflicted yes a drama that tries to get into his mind no

It’s an ego trip for writers, producers and the actors involved shameful (not surprised Steve Coogan is involved) apparently he is playing the role sensitively

If the BBC feel they must do something on savile they should turn over names of those who covered up for him to the police and make sure nothing like that happens again

The only BBC documentary I want to see on the subject is the one where they disclose just how many of them knew what he was, all the ways it which this stuff was covered up and the rotten culture in the BBC that enabled this. Plus all the other foul perverts employed by the BBC, how they were protected and why the BBC failed in every possible way.

Yes, coogan is known for his sensitivity isn't he? m.youtube.com/watch?v=blPTAOSQD-0

I agree with you. I think it’s important to learn all we can from monsters like this so that it never happens again to more victims. But the likes of JS himself should be forgotten as a person. His legacy is so evil that his corpse had to be removed from where it was originally buried and buried elsewhere in secret and as far as I know, in an unmarked grave.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=584TiSAWb9k

He's repeatedly done impressions of JS. He's an impersonator.

It is an ego trip for these men, you are right.