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How do you stick up for yourself when someone is disrespectful to you?

65 replies

coodawoodashooda · 15/10/2021 19:29

Looking for tips. I consider myself to be very strong, tolerant, independent and capable but far too regularly i think I've been played for a fool. Please give me tips on how to quietly make my point without escalating the situation.

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Spongeboob · 15/10/2021 23:08

"Excuse me? Say that again". Full eye contact. If they have the balls to repeat it, I'd say "Wow, how rude of you" and walk away.

Vivana · 15/10/2021 23:10

I just turn round and say jai nes compramde pa's and walk away snilling.

Vivana · 15/10/2021 23:11

Compramde

Reflections2021 · 15/10/2021 23:13

@k1233 really great tip and will be using this from now on!

IrishMel · 15/10/2021 23:24

When I was younger never called people out if they said stuff to me or were mean but now I find if you calmly say your piece of how you are feeling and say that is uncalled for or none of your business, they are so shocked that they won't do it again. Some people have no empathy for others or no social awareness and think they can say what they like to others. I had a woman be really mean to be at work and should have called her out on it. If it was now I would just say your comment is uncalled for and I think you are really mean and if you have anything to say to me please say just to me and not in front of an audience as in the whole office. They are usually shocked that you stood up to them and will retreat. As another poster said do not let them away with it once or will do again and you do not have to be mean just say in a calm tone. Some people are just horrible.

Ledition · 15/10/2021 23:31

It depends on the situation - can you give a little more information to the circumstances that are bothering you?

IME some people are prone to being targets more than others as they are too nice and shy away from conflict. Are you assertive in general? What's your natural persona at work (assuming this is work related?)

Skinnymuffins · 16/10/2021 00:28

DISENGAGE

It's not your responsibility to rectify the situation or respond. People who are disrespectful feed from the reaction to that disrespect. Even if that reaction is calm, they want to create dialogue based on what they've said or done.

Cut that food source off and disengage until they come to you with a respectful dialogue.

squirrelslikenuts · 16/10/2021 01:04

Could have done with this advice last wk. Sod's Law

ThatsWhatI · 16/10/2021 02:19

I tend to stare at them in disbelief, say nothing, turn around and just walk away

NiceGerbil · 16/10/2021 02:23

OP can you give situation/s?

Very dependent on who/what/where etc.

blubberball · 16/10/2021 05:29

I struggle with this. It's easier with some people than others. A random guy at my work being rude to me, I can now handle. I genuinely do not care about what they have to say. I tell them that I don't give a fuck what they think. I tell them that they're sexist. I tell them to fuck off. It seems to work out OK.

I'm trying to work on having respect for myself, and making sure that my kids have respect for me. I care about them, and I can't tell them to fuck off.

thecatsmum12346 · 16/10/2021 08:41

These are brilliant

IComeInPeace · 16/10/2021 08:54

@Spongeboob

"Excuse me? Say that again". Full eye contact. If they have the balls to repeat it, I'd say "Wow, how rude of you" and walk away.
Another tip which a level below this in terms of directness is to just say their name like you'd tell a dog to sit.

"Vikki!'' Say it like you're saying ''STOP"" so it comes out right.

That lets them know that you know they crossed a line. But there's no hook for them to latch on to their really. Nothing to argue with. Nothing to escalate. Nothing to get wounded over.

Another tip which I think I read on Mumsnet years ago is to simply say ''ouch'' in a languid tone.

It's like, I see what you're doing there. Can't be arsed to respond to that but I do see through this put down.

When somebody gives you one of those subtle put downs and you react, you're always seen as the aggressor! So it's like a game of chess dealing with these people.

Babdoc · 16/10/2021 08:56

DD also has a good way to deal with offensive sexist jokes. She looks puzzled, and says innocently “I don’t get it. Please explain the joke?”
The bloke then has the cringe making task of stuttering “Well, it’s cos women are asking for rape” or “Well, women are stupid” or whatever.
Forcing him to spell out his misogyny is a very effective way of shaming him and making him wish he’d never said it. And might make him think twice in future.
The technique also works for racist or homophobic jokes.
You could adapt it for offensive remarks in general, OP. Look puzzled, say “I don’t understand. It sounds like you are being really insulting. What did you mean to say?”

IComeInPeace · 16/10/2021 09:13

@IrishMel

When I was younger never called people out if they said stuff to me or were mean but now I find if you calmly say your piece of how you are feeling and say that is uncalled for or none of your business, they are so shocked that they won't do it again. Some people have no empathy for others or no social awareness and think they can say what they like to others. I had a woman be really mean to be at work and should have called her out on it. If it was now I would just say your comment is uncalled for and I think you are really mean and if you have anything to say to me please say just to me and not in front of an audience as in the whole office. They are usually shocked that you stood up to them and will retreat. As another poster said do not let them away with it once or will do again and you do not have to be mean just say in a calm tone. Some people are just horrible.
Yes, definitely agree with tackling it fairly early on. If a bully has decided you're a tasty little scapegoat then doing nothing is a bad idea

It's not that I want somebody talking about me behind my back but I once had a mean woman be so icy to me at work, I couldn't believe an adult was behaving like that.

She cast me in the role of her enemy but treated me like a ghost to punish me for what, I do not know, but she was excluding me from even the chat in the tea room (she was a dominant character, love bombed you if the association validated her, or was benevolently polite but distant if you were beneath her in the hierarchy that existed in her head)
All I ever did to her was be a bit wary around her which she sensed and she cast me in the role of her enemy and treated me like a ghost.

She would start a sentence a second after me but shout hers while I talked. She did successfully manipulate the dynamic around us which is what successful bullies always manage to do.

If that happened to me now I'd be so much braver, I'd say ''you know, you don't have to make somebody aware of how much you dislike them. You could hide your feelings in a professional setting.

If you add me to the list of people you trash behind their back then that's none of my business, but unless you need me to show up in your drama, hide your antipathy at work.

I have handled this WRONG a few times and I google the psychology behind it, techniques for dealing with it. I have dealt with being excluded in a couple of settings now, and with therapy and good friends outside of work, it's made me stronger. And I'm lucky, I know if these things happen to you at the wrong time they can compound a weakness that bullies are attracted to. I feel these exclusions were things i learnt from.

KTB19 · 16/10/2021 09:28

I used to have trouble standing up for myself. People became comfortable with being rude and disrespectful and I would end up feeling angry afterwards and hating myself for not saying anything.

I've still got a way to go yet but I am heaps better. I am loving some of the replies on here as well.

I discovered this lady on Spotify. Her podcasts are really good - especially this one about boundaries. I've listened to it a couple of times and she has a few others in the same subject.

open.spotify.com/episode/0g7REfoZ5QAkHEBECxAEKB?si=RpAAny0WRbSMxcfRREYnLQ&utm_source=copy-link

Thepennysjustdropped · 16/10/2021 21:34

Wow there are some good tips on here. Thanks, MNers.

coodawoodashooda · 16/10/2021 21:38

Yeah. Im really looking forward to listening to the podcast.

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ShepherdMoons · 17/10/2021 06:17

Yes I would say to challenge them in a non confrontational way - try to be direct. Difficult though if someone is being personal though.

It's then better I think to walk away. Once you've said your piece it's better to let it go and move on that try to change someone.

TheRealBettySpaghetti · 17/10/2021 06:30

Eye contact. Straight face. Very effective.

Then what?

Depends on the situation but silence and a Paddington bear hard stare can be effective. However I usually say 'What did you just say to me?' or 'Excuse me! Did I just head you correctly?' Something like that. Most get wrong footed and start stuttering an apology or get defensive and upset and start grumbling about me not having a 'sense of humour'. However in both they have been called out and they don't do it again.

TimeToChangePassword · 17/10/2021 06:43

Any ideas for managing this situation if you’re on a phone call?
I don’t want to go into detail - I live far away from family - and often feel if I’m in phone contact then they are unpleasant to me. I restrict the contact - but don’t want to cut it completely.
There are good ideas here, and I’m sure they are adaptable- but just thought I’d ask.

Holly60 · 17/10/2021 07:04

If someone does that I just make very clear it’s been noted (unless I’m in a particularly confrontational mood).

A pause, a look directly in their eye, a quirk of the eyebrow, and maybe a small ‘huh’ (as if I’ve realised something, not in a questioning way). Or maybe a ‘right’. Basically I’m insinuating ‘I’ve only just this moment realised you are not a nice person’. Then move the conversation on or bring it to an end.

I leave them in no doubt that I realise what’s just happened but give them no chance to pretend it didn’t. Ie saying ‘no, no, no’ or whatever

Holly60 · 17/10/2021 07:05

Or maybe a mildly irritated look or flair of the nostrils. ‘You’ve irritated me the way an annoying fly might’ kind of vibe

UnsuitableHat · 17/10/2021 07:07

Depends what it is obvs but I find eye contact, waiting for them to finish and then a short response (e.g. Ok thanks, I don’t agree with you, but hear what you say) can work.

dinosaurblues · 17/10/2021 07:54

I was bullied at work fairly recently. She was like a steamroller and started as a temp and got rapidly promoted. There are 5 others who I know of who have left because of her, others loved her.

I don't have a strong voice which doesn't help, but I'm reading this thread with interest.