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MIL smoking in the house

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Katlow · 06/10/2021 20:32

Need someone to give my head a wobble here if I'm being a crazy first time mum.

Before my baby was born, I told my dh that he wouldn't be able to stay or go into dmil house due to the fact she smokes in the house. She also smokes weed on a semi regular basis but apparently this is not in the house and to be fair I've never smelt it in her house, I have smelt smoke however. It was agreed DH would speak to her about this. I continued with my pregnancy thinking that this was sorted. See her with an ecig every time were out and about so I presume that she's quit.
Babies born, go and visit her when we get home from the hospital and her house STINKS of smoke. Fine, I presumed wrong, my fault as it wasn't communicated to me otherwise. So I ask DH to let her know that the no house visits while smoking inside still stands. In hindsight, i probably should have just done it myself but that ship has sailed.
He does this, they're out on their own together, she royally kicks off and cries but nothing is said to me other than my DH letting me know what was said.
A week later, I dressed the baby in some clothes she bought for him while I was pregnant, go on WhatsApp to send her a picture and it turns out she's blocked me. We don't post pictures of our baby on SM so we have an independent app where we can share photos with family, I go on this and she's removed herself from this also. This is all on fathers day, so I ask DH to message her and say that I tried to send her a photo but it didn't go through. She ignored this fact and says that she's removed herself from the family album app as she can't bear to only see photos of baby online.
I think, this is daft, so send her a text saying basically, I wish it didn't have to be this way, I have to protect my child and if she wants to sort it out, let me know. She sent me the most spiteful text back saying that she's not getting involved in my argumentative nature and she's not letting me treat her how I treat my dad (which I opened up to her about once as he really treated me and my brother awfully, posted a letter through the door when we were kids saying he has a new family now and we just need to accept that, I can, and have before, write a WHOLE other thread on his antics) but she knew this would hurt me. She said she's been nothing but a good person to me and I've ruined her expectations of being a grandma and how dare I speak to her that way.
I kept my cool and just text her back saying I only text as she's blocked me off everything, and there was no need for the horrible reply, this is all very childish and again, to let me know if she wants to sort it out.
A few months passed and I heard nothing from her. DH was still going seeing her with the baby, meeting her in cafes which I always suggested he do and would remind him to go and see her. I said to DH that if she wants to let it go, I'm willing to draw a line under it and move on which he told DMIL, she finally text me saying that I have a beautiful son, and I replied saying you have a beautiful grandson! And normal conversation ensued from there. Met her at the park and it was like nothing happened. Fine, I'm willing to drop it all for DH as I know this is difficult for him too. But the no visits due to the smoking still stands.
Me and my DH went away for 2 nights and left the baby with my DM. My DM thought it'd be nice to meet up with DMIL and have a grandma's day. She said they were meeting in a cafe and I was happy that they were getting to spend some time with the baby. My dm forgot about the no visits to DMIL house and DMIL invited her round and she went. When I found this out when I got back, I was peeved with my DM and told her as much but we sorted it out and moved on.
A week later, DMIL shows up at our house unannounced, she wants to have a word with us because she wants to know whether the no visiting is due to her smoking or whether its something else because my DM went round and she thought, what changed? I said nothing has changed, my DM forgot and I spoke to her about it. I said it's not a personal attack on her, it would be the same with any other member of the family who smoked indoors. She said that she'd felt like there was no point in being alive anymore and when she was speaking to her friends, she found herself forgetting our babies name as she'd not seen him, she said that being a parent is immense but becoming a grandparent is second to that and she feels like she's lost out on being a grandma.
I said if you smoke outside, we'd have no issue with baby coming round, and that she'd said some hurtful things to me too that were irrelevant to the situation but I know emotions were running high so we can move past it and she said yes well I thought postnatal depression might have come into it abit. So I got a bit sterner then and said NO straight away and she said well when DH told me, me and him were both sat there breaking our hearts and I was crying and he was upset, so I said wait a minute, DH has agreed with me all along with this, and we've had this conversation in private but I feel like it's come across as this is all coming from me when it's actually not. She backtracked then and said well of course he stands by you I'd be concerned if he didn't but as long as its not because of anything else then that's fine I just wanted to make sure.
I was sat there, baffled, while my DH and DMIL made normal conversation so I just excused myself and went upstairs. Now looking back on it there are lots of things I wish I said but I don't want to drag it all back up again but I'm finding myself feeling very bitter towards her.
Am I in the wrong for saying baby can't visit if she smokes in the house? I'm not quite sure where all this drama has arisen from when it's a case of
Smoke in the house - he's not coming round
Smoke outside- he can?

How am I best dealing with this now? Shall I address the issues I wish I'd mentioned when she came round or should I just let it lie and grit my teeth every time I see her?

OP posts:
Twatterati · 08/10/2021 06:46

Agree with all the PPs that you are not wrong.

My concern would be that she might 'encourage' your DP to start
smoking again.... if he only gave up when you were TTC - and if he ever feels tempted - it would be so easy for her to offer him a drag and before you know it..

If he starts smoking again, either with her encouragement or without, you'll have some tough decisions to make.

chocolateorangeinhaler · 08/10/2021 07:10

I think you are just being concerned new mum like every new mum is. She's forgotten what that's like.
I guess in reality you can't tell her what to do in her own home but if she's not smoking before or during your sons visit the risk to him is minimal and of course smoking around him is an absolute no no. I think your both being a bit unreasonable it's the son and grandson that will end up beating the brunt of this if it continues.

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/10/2021 11:20

Eh?! Where on earth did I say it's about me?! I was giving my experience in order to back up what I was saying. I was not looking for any validation on my parenting skills thank you very much! For PP to imply that she would not allow anybody who smoked at all to cuddle her baby is taking anxiety to an unnecessary level. It also implies that smokers shouldn't have babies of there own - cue my experiences. If PP was my relative and declared such a thing, I'd be concerned they had Post Natal Anxiety“

We didn’t want anyone who smoked anywhere near our babies, either. They stink. I wouldn’t tolerate it and wouldn’t inflict it on babies who had no say, either.
It was acceptable to you, it’s not acceptable to many others (the majority I imagine). Not wanting someone who stinks handling your newborn is not a post natal mental health issue 🙄

LittleGwyneth · 08/10/2021 12:12

@StoneofDestiny

Not letting a smoker cuddle your baby?! Don't be ridiculous!!

You do what you want with your baby, but I'd not let a smoker hold mine. After reading the third hand smoking information and realising how long the dangerous chemicals stay in clothes, furniture and are breathed out - I'd take no chances.

When I smoked I wouldn't have held a newborn in clothes I had smoked in, unless they'd been washed since. I think it's a bit bonkers to say that you wouldn't let a smoker hold your baby - I was a nanny during the week and would smoke on a Saturday night, that had no bearing on the children I looked after. But the smoker should be responsible and shouldn't arrive to meet a new baby having had a cigarette, unless they've showered and changed since.
LittleGwyneth · 08/10/2021 12:14

OP, as everyone else has said, your DH needs to take a more active role in the conversation.

Also if you're totally honest with yourself, is there any aspect of not wanting to see her? She sounds very difficult, so I wouldn't blame you at all if that were the case. But maybe you could put in a standing every other week date for her to come over to your house and see the baby, if you do want to make things better between you?

FrozenoutofCostco · 08/10/2021 22:49

@StoneofDestiny So you know better than a consultant do you??

FrozenoutofCostco · 08/10/2021 22:49

@MilesOfSand

Eh?! Where on earth did I say it's about me?! I was giving my experience in order to back up what I was saying. I was not looking for any validation on my parenting skills thank you very much! For PP to imply that she would not allow anybody who smoked at all to cuddle her baby is taking anxiety to an unnecessary level. It also implies that smokers shouldn't have babies of there own - cue my experiences. If PP was my relative and declared such a thing, I'd be concerned they had Post Natal Anxiety

Um ok, you’re welcome, I guess. 🤷‍♀️

What???? You're making zero sense, just uttering drivel. Are you quite alright????
DriftingBlue · 08/10/2021 22:55

She is in so deep with her addiction that she can’t see you are doing the right thing for your child.

MilesOfSand · 09/10/2021 00:33

What???? You're making zero sense, just uttering drivel. Are you quite alright????

Yes, although I’m not feeling your concern. Your responses are out of proportion to mine though. But if you’d like to have the last word, I will bow out here either way.

hardboiledeggs · 09/10/2021 09:33

Read the first few sentences and no YANBU

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 09/10/2021 09:42

YANBU, I’d not take a baby nor older children to a smokers house. It was something I always checked before letting them go on play dates etc.

Harlequin1088 · 09/10/2021 09:42

Sounds like smoking is more important to your mother-in-law than having a relationship with her grandson.

If she was that bothered, she'd have either quit smoking or at least started smoking outdoors instead.

You're not being unreasonable at all. You're safeguarding your child's health. It's her problem if she can't see that.

Billandben444 · 09/10/2021 11:01

She is an addict and smoking seems to give her great pleasure and yet the ultimatum is asking her to give it up totally in exchange for seeing baby what, once a week for an hr or so? I think you're being a bit stubborn and there could be a compromise if you could make up and talk sensibly. Would she be able to not smoke on the day and to thoroughly air the rooms you would be going in? Can you talk it over with your husband unemotionally and see?

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