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Neighbour thread: parking on our drive…

168 replies

Livvielo · 06/10/2021 00:58

For the past few weeks, our next door neighbour has been having work done in their garden. And they’ve taken to parking their work vans on our drive. We didn’t say anything at first, as the workmen were gone by the time we needed the drive ourselves. (We have parking outside our house as well, and we live in a small street with a dead end. We are the end house.) so it would be my car outside on my non work days, and my husbands car on our drive way from 5pm after work.
What has annoyed me, is that they haven’t asked. Today, I was having a visitor. Without using my driveway, the visitor would have to park a couple of streets away as the closest streets to us have limited parking and always seem full no matter the day! That’s ridiculous when we have a drive!! Knowing we had a visitor coming, my husband said we would need them to move the work van.
They said the vans had to park there as there was nowhere else, but the work should be finished in a couple of days.
Well, this made me snap. I went round and told them how rude they were to have even been using our drive without asking. I said ‘a decent person would at least ask to use it, and had you have asked, I would be ok with that providing we weren’t using it!’
He replied ‘if you were a decent person you would be ok with it!’ This ended up in an argument where I said they were entitled and selfish and they said I was ‘petty.’- all whilst they made no attempt to move the van.
(The work men watched silently)
So I did get petty and I reversed my car back and blocked the work van in- hours before my visitor was due to arrive.
Ended up with both the husband and wife on my doorstep telling me I was out of order….. I did move the car once the workmen came to ask me and they said they had been told by the neighbours that the drive was ok for them to use… I would say the neighbourly relationship is pretty much over now- it was only a ‘hello’ civil type relationship before to be fair…
But… what would you have done? Said from day one to move? Not resorted to being ‘petty’ and blocking the work van in? The issue for me was how rude I found the whole situation. I would never have just assumed it was ok if roles were reversed!!
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Neighbour thread: parking on our drive…
OP posts:
KissedintheDark · 06/10/2021 09:04

Well done in sticking up for yourself, op.
Your DH sounds like a wet lettuce

earthyfire · 06/10/2021 09:05

I'd be livid and would have told them to move the first time it happened. I allowed my neighbour's builder to park on my drive when they had some building works and the oil from the builder's van leaked all over my drive. No offer of getting it cleaned so I always say no now.

LaBellina · 06/10/2021 09:07

OP if the workmen or neighbor park on your drive again, I would pop over to warn them once to move their vehicle(s). If they don’t : in case of the neighbors car, have it towed.
In case of the workmen: if they work for a company, phone the company, explain that their staff is trespassing and you expect their vehicle to be moved immediately after ending your call with them or you’ll have it towed.
Stand your ground, they are 100% taking the piss and you’re 100% right to teach them a lesson.

FatBettyintheCoop · 06/10/2021 09:10

@RubyKitty

If you had room to park on the drive and block the van in then there was room for your visitor to park there. The workmen would’ve just knocked and asked to get out if they needed to as they know they are on someone else’s drive. On day one you should have popped around and at least asked how long they would be parking on your drive for and made a point that they hadn’t asked but it would be ok as long as they moved when you needed it. Unfortunately this has the scent of your neighbours turning in to neighbours from hell 😳
Are you actually being serious??

Suggesting the OP pops round to the neighbours asking how long they would be parking on her drive?

Maybe she should feed the workmen and provide tea and butties and provide the use of her downstairs toilet for them because the neighbours toilet has just been redecorated so it wouldn’t be fair to use theirs….etc.

The neighbours are already ‘neighbours from hell’ by their entitled attitude. Nipping it in the bud on day one by saying a firm NO is the most sensible way to deal with these types of people. If they know you won’t take any nonsense, they soon back off.

At least they now know the OP has a backbone unlike her spineless DH.

EvilPea · 06/10/2021 09:15

I think you were being more than understanding and reasonable for letting them, especially considering they didn’t even ask.

I don’t blame you for blocking the van in.

NorthernStarss · 06/10/2021 09:22

What if the van damaged your driveway? Or a workman was injured on your driveway? I wouldn't allow it without a prior conversation. It's your private property. Not difficult for any rational person to understand.

ArrrMeHearties · 06/10/2021 09:23

Imagine wanting to use your own driveway for your own car... the absolute cheek of it Grin

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 06/10/2021 09:28

They are arrogant cheeky fuckers for sure.

They assumed you'd be a walkover, and you were for the first while until you needed the drive, then they assumed they could just shame you into letting it continue.

They are mannerless oiks.

Yeah, sure you should and could have asked the vans not to park on your driveway - but that would have been petty, if they weren't causing you any problem - but I would have been out there day 1 and saying something to the workmen themselves along the lines of "Hey, can you just check first with me if I need my drive each day please? If I don't, you can park there but if I need my drive, you'll need to park elsewhere."

Easy with hindsight.

But people DO take the piss when they think they can. I'll never forget coming home from the hospital with newborn DS1 in mid December (UK) to find a fucking building materials delivery lorry blocking not only our parking space, but the whole front of the house so we couldn't even park elsewhere and get into the house!
Luckily he was on the back of the flatbed so I went and YELLED at him - he jumped a mile! - I was SO angry that he thought that was any kind of ok! Plus hormones. Plus I had to be heard over the lifting machinery.
He dumped his first load quickly and then moved his lorry so we could get in, and he did apologise, which made it better.

TaRaLa · 06/10/2021 09:30

Neighbours are CFers who should have asked and absolutely should have had the van moved when you said you needed it. Workmen probably told it was okay to use so not their fault.

CheeseCakeSunflowers · 06/10/2021 09:33

Don't beat yourself up for not saying something sooner. You let it slide until the day you needed the drive yourself then asked them not to use it that day. This was more than reasonable, their response to you was completely out of order and I am not surprised you snapped. They should of course have asked your permission before using the drive. I think it would be good now to speak to the workmen yourself, tell them you will allow them to use the drive when it is free but they must check with you each day before doing so, that way no-one will be able to accuse you of being unreasonable.

Marmite17 · 06/10/2021 09:35

Can't imagine anyone around here parking on someone else's drive. Just doesn't happen. Think I would have been a bit gobsmacked but asked them to go, private property, the moment I saw them.

unlikelytobe · 06/10/2021 09:39

Now you have made a stand you cannot turn round and let the workmen use your drive even if they grovel, even if the NDN asked belatedly - it's a firm no and you would be wise to see your drive was occupied by one of your cars. Yes, you should have challenged them straight away but it's done now and at least you have the measure of your NDN. They are CF par excellence!

Marmite17 · 06/10/2021 09:40

Pretty obvious is isn't a car park

Hesma · 06/10/2021 09:44

YANBU overall however you should have said something from the beginning. You set a precedent so ABU to suddenly get cross in my opinion.

Loudestcat14 · 06/10/2021 09:45

@RubyKitty

If you had room to park on the drive and block the van in then there was room for your visitor to park there. The workmen would’ve just knocked and asked to get out if they needed to as they know they are on someone else’s drive. On day one you should have popped around and at least asked how long they would be parking on your drive for and made a point that they hadn’t asked but it would be ok as long as they moved when you needed it. Unfortunately this has the scent of your neighbours turning in to neighbours from hell 😳
Er, which bit of, it's HER drive and they shouldn't be parking on it full stop do you not understand??
RB68 · 06/10/2021 09:46

They are cheeky fuckers and given they had had the benefit of using it when you weren't so when you need it they should clear off. It is hard for the workers though as they just park where they are told

MadeForThis · 06/10/2021 09:48

How can it be your fault? You were kind enough to not complain about them using the drive until you actually needed it.

You asked them to move and they refused. Totally out of order!! I would have blocked them in too.

I wouldn't be worried about the neighbours being annoyed with you. I would be annoyed with THEM.

floofycroissant · 06/10/2021 09:50

I don't get whilst you were giving them stick. They should've checked with you first, it's not your job! You asked both parti s politely and they both gave you shit back. I'd have parked on the neighbors front lawn Grin

nettie434 · 06/10/2021 09:50

Politely requested driver of work vehicle from minute one, not day one, to remove. The fact you let it slide is not in your favour.

In theory it might have been better if you had said something from day one but I don't think it's reasonable from the neighbours' reaction to assume that this would have worked either. They might just as well have said, 'it's a one off' and then continued to use it.

It is not ok to assume that it's ok to park on some else's drive without asking permission, especially if the work is going on for several weeks, as mentioned in your post.

They are extremely unreasonable. They are also silly. Knowing the work wasn't finished, they should have been extremely apologetic, bought you some wine and flowers and then asked if the workmen could continue to use your drive if they checked daily in advance.

floofycroissant · 06/10/2021 09:51

*I don't get why you are getting stick OP

I need more coffee

Notaroadrunner · 06/10/2021 10:06

The workmen would need to be pretty thick skinned to even think about parking on your drive today. If they do attempt it, tell them to do one. Your asshole neighbours parking issue for their workmen is not your issue to solve.

HarrietsChariot · 06/10/2021 10:09
  1. Buy a banger, doesn't need to even run if the seller will deliver it.
  2. Park it on their driveway.
  3. If they complain, tell them that if they were decent people they'd be OK with it, they're not using the driveway (because it's blocked so they can't) so what's the problem.
lorca · 06/10/2021 10:10

Your neighbours have been taking the piss for the last couple of weeks and you have not challenged them. You've now been inconvenienced by their CFery, snapped at them - I would have said from day 1 not to park there

amazing isn't it - most CF parking threads have many many posters coming on saying that you are not using your drive, what does it matter if they use it for a bit, #BE NICE!

Yet when you do leave it (because you are not using it) - it's still your fault. Hmm

It's def a hill i would die on, OP. NOT your responsibility where the CF builders park.

ImitationofBeing · 06/10/2021 10:12

Get you wanting to use your own driveway... only on MN....

I'm glad you blocked them in. They are rude.

MyPatronusIsACat · 06/10/2021 10:13

@Longdistance

‘It’s not for you to decide who can use or cannot park on MY driveway’, should do.
This. ^ This is supreme cheekyfuckery of the highest order! Wow, what a cheek!

YANBU! @Livvielo

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