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To not go mushroom foraging with my teenage son

134 replies

Patchwork21 · 04/10/2021 13:55

14ds has a fascination with mushrooms. He's researched and says he knows there are certain types that are 100 percent easy to identify as safe to eat. He wants me to go with him to pick some and them bring them home to eat. I said no, as I have no experience whatsoever with mushrooms. He says I'm irrational and lots of parents take their children mushroom picking 🍄

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JennieLee · 04/10/2021 16:18

Most books give good advice and also flag up when an inedible species and an edible one resemble one another. Spouse and I go foraging regularly. If you stick to a few very distinctive varieties - parasol mushrooms, shaggy inkcaps - you will be fine.

Doing spore prints, smelling mushrooms etc is also very much part of the process. It's not about visual evidence only.

A good guidebook/textbook - eg Roger Philips' 'Mushrooms' is also a must.

Yourstupidityexhaustsme · 04/10/2021 16:26

We went foraging once and I still go cold thinking about the subsequent food poisoning we got.

I would explain to him that you love his interest but you're nervous. Would he be open for you to both go on a foraging course? That way you can go mushroom picking but safely.

Tbh it's lovely he wants to include you.

limitedperiodonly · 04/10/2021 16:27

I forgot. In the 1970s my parents used to take us blackberrying every Sunday in August/Septemberish. We ate my mum's apple and blackberry pies for weeks.

Even when we left home my parents loved to be out there. My dad died and a few years later my mum said how much she missed going. DH and I took her. My mum and I could both remembered the best places but bloody hell they'd changed. Aggressive professional blackberry pickers and also families who had clearly watched too many prepper/zombie apocalypse videos and were a bit over-keen.

My mum had given DH my dad's machete-type blade to chop down the brambles. He'd been given it by a friend who served with the Chindits in WWII and had to hack down jungle and other things.

It certainly kept the mad people away from us that day by us appearing as strangers not to be messed with. But we never went again. Forest foraging can be quite competitive...

mayblossominapril · 04/10/2021 16:29

I go foraging but I stick to field, horse mushrooms and giant puff balls.
Giant puffballs are a rare find but impossible to mistake for anything else. My grandfather showed me where to pick and how to know which are field or horse mushrooms.
DP goes foraging as well and he is more adventurous than I am. Ive got a really good collins guide. Sometimes we enjoy identifying all mushrooms but only gather certain ones.

ChaToilLeam · 04/10/2021 16:32

It sounds a great idea to do a course together. I’ve done a little foraging but some edible mushrooms look really like the dodgy ones and I stick to the ones I’m confident with.

tttigress · 04/10/2021 16:38

I think there are mushroom picking training course, can't you go on one of those together?

tttigress · 04/10/2021 16:40

Another option would be to allow him to grow some mushrooms, that can't be dangerous.

Sarah2384 · 04/10/2021 16:42

@samwitwicky

Wouldn't it be something nice / fun etc to do with your child, regardless of how much you know about them?

You don't have to eat them

Agree, but don't pick anything you've no intention of eating. Well, maybe just one of each species to bring home and identify properly.
JennieLee · 04/10/2021 16:45

A lot of areas will have mycological societies/foraging groups. They welcome members - and there's often a good deal of experience there.

mrsjoyfulprizeforraffiawork · 04/10/2021 16:48

If your son is misguided enough to think he will know what is safe to eat, please also make sure that he is actually allowed to pick them at his venue of choice. Personally, I wouldn't do it (I have only one kidney and I intend to keep it working). I don't know where you live but lots of forests will not allow any fungi picking. Epping Forest, for instance, (a site of special scientific interest) has successfully taken several lots of mushroom pickers to court and they have received fines of several thousand pounds. Lots of locals will report pickers to the forest constables so not worth trying to get away with it.

MobyDicksTinyCanoe · 04/10/2021 16:54

Good God a child who wants to spend time with a parent is a rare breed...... Why not look up the subject and head for the easiest ones such as puffball mushrooms.

Ozanj · 04/10/2021 16:57

Why not try growing your own? That way you can guarantee the crop.

EveningOverRooftops · 04/10/2021 16:57

Oh op I’ve just remembered something you Can do in the mean time. Have you thought about getting some good mushroom growing kits for the edible kind? This can also be used as an aid to help identify, skills testing so to speak. As you can grow them yourself, and then look them up in a reference book too. Plus you’ll get to see what they look like as they grow.

pointythings · 04/10/2021 16:57

Well, Nicholas Evans is an idiot - a webcap mushroom looks nothing at all like a cep. For a start it isn't a member of the boletus family - it has gills rather than spongy spores. Ceps are one of the safest things to eat as there are only two members of the boletus family which are poisonous and they are 1) not deadly and 2) disgusting to eat (as well as easy to spot).

It's actual wild mushrooms you need to be careful with as they are easily mixed up with death caps. Stick to ceps, giant puffballs and chanterelles (though chanterelle season is well and truly over) and you're fine.

pointythings · 04/10/2021 16:59

@JennieLee

Most books give good advice and also flag up when an inedible species and an edible one resemble one another. Spouse and I go foraging regularly. If you stick to a few very distinctive varieties - parasol mushrooms, shaggy inkcaps - you will be fine.

Doing spore prints, smelling mushrooms etc is also very much part of the process. It's not about visual evidence only.

A good guidebook/textbook - eg Roger Philips' 'Mushrooms' is also a must.

Be careful with ink caps/shaggy caps. Both are good to eat, but just to be on the safe side do not drink alcohol with them as one of them is toxic when ingested with alcohol.
ReggaetonLente · 04/10/2021 17:01

God I haven't seen a giant puffball in years. I used to love giving them all a good boot on the way to school

2bazookas · 04/10/2021 17:06

It IS a fun thing to do ( I've done it with my son, but he has been trained when picking for a professional mushroom forager). Then we dry most of the crop for winter use.

Why don't you look round locally for someone running a wild foraging course and book yourselves on it?

dottiedodah · 04/10/2021 17:06

I would most certainly not go .do not let him go either. There may be a course as someone said .if not maybe find something else to do together. Can't see the fascination myself. Loads of perfectly safe ones in sb ! Cheap too .no risk of poisoning yourselves either!

Lovemusic33 · 04/10/2021 17:07

I ate puffballs a couple weeks ago, there one of my ‘safe’ mushrooms as they are easy to identify 🤣, not enough of them about though.

user1495884211 · 04/10/2021 17:09

@Yourstupidityexhaustsme

We went foraging once and I still go cold thinking about the subsequent food poisoning we got.

I would explain to him that you love his interest but you're nervous. Would he be open for you to both go on a foraging course? That way you can go mushroom picking but safely.

Tbh it's lovely he wants to include you.

Ah, you might have sussed out the son's motivations. My kids love to include me in things that they know I am terrified of. "I really want to go on the Certain-Horrible-Death rollercoaster with you Mum, it'll be so much fun."
JennieLee · 04/10/2021 17:22

Foraging also involves visiting lovely places - woodlands in particular!

I should add that the taste of freshly foraged parasol mushrooms is absolutely wonderful!

NB. For clarity it is the common inkcap, not the shaggy inkcap which should not be taken in conjunction with alcohol. A good guide will give you the Latin botanical names, but I rather like the English ones for everyday use.

SirChenjins · 04/10/2021 17:25

I’d do it to spend time with it, but definitely wouldn’t eat them. We once did a fungi day course and the man who was running it and who had many years experience ended up in hospital once having mis-identified one.
I love the idea of collecting my own fungi but I would be too nervous

NettleTea · 04/10/2021 17:31

@HummingBeeBox

I got a brilliant book for my birthday and there are a few which are fairly easy due to location / time of year etc but a lot which aren't. This book is so well balanced, it's brilliant, and also have sections on the legalities of foraging and collecting.

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time of year is all over the place this year unfortunately

Ive just run a mushroom identification and wild cooking course, and brought my friend in who is excellent, but has spent many years learning how to be excellent.

yes, there are some which are quite safe starters, but many we saw out this weekend 'could' have been one of several. Unfortuanately there are grey areas and they dont all look like the photos.

Its learning through seeing and touching and smelling and tasting that lets you learn. We saw many types but you wouldnt guarantee a meal either - we had to bring previously foraged stuff with us for the dinner, because we only saw 3 edible specimins and they were only tiny

Lots of people are running courses

NettleTea · 04/10/2021 17:33

@mayblossominapril

I go foraging but I stick to field, horse mushrooms and giant puff balls. Giant puffballs are a rare find but impossible to mistake for anything else. My grandfather showed me where to pick and how to know which are field or horse mushrooms. DP goes foraging as well and he is more adventurous than I am. Ive got a really good collins guide. Sometimes we enjoy identifying all mushrooms but only gather certain ones.
a small puffball could be mistaken for an aminita - its always imnportant to cut it in half and check that the shape of a small mushroom waiting to burst forth isnt inside.
KenAdams · 04/10/2021 17:59

Oh for goodness sake, the scaremongering and misinformation on this thread is ridiculous, mostly from people who by their own admission have not and will not ever forage.

Firstly, your son is correct. Some species are really easy to identify like giant puffball, dryads saddle, chicken of the woods, some of the parsols etc.

Three things you need to do:

  • join the FB groups and just observe the posts. This helps to become familiar with the common types
  • buy the book Mushrooms by Roger Phillips. He photographs and puts them on the page next to each other and it will make him a lot less comfortable when it comes to IDing which is exactly what you want. 99% isn't sure enough to eat
  • have a browse around the First Nature website. It shows you what common types can be confused with ones that will make you ill.

People that tell you they have an app that can identify mushrooms are talking out of their arse. One of the main ways to identify a mushroom is by smell and if your phone is doing that I'll go out and buy the same one tomorrow. The second way is with a spore print, ditto my above comment.

ABSOLUTELY pick them to bring home and identify, it's the best way. Do the aforementioned spore prints too as well as cutting it open and examining it all.

But my final point is one that everyone misses about mushrooms - they aren't just edible or poisonous. They do SO many other things. Some are medicinal like the birch polypore (which are also fun to make little plasters with as they are antibacterial), King Alfred's cakes you can light the inside of and play with that (it's like charcoal), dead man's fingers are just really cool to look at and artists brackets you can draw a picture of. Oh and there are some really cool ones that stain blue when you cut them so you can write your name in them if you're quick.

PM me for more info but you should definitely do this with your son, its lots of fun!

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