AIBU to ask if school get notified automatically if police attend a home address?

[LittleBirdy1]

As above is this an automatic thing? My neighbours are horrendous absolute the most inconsiderate, horrible people you could ever imagine living next door two, both adults are as bed as each other and equally vile to their children but in different ways. Their house is HA mine in privately owned so I have complained to the HA multiple times about them and raised concerns with ring doorbell footage and images about the welfare and treatment of the children, seeing things they openly do in public makes you wonder what is happening when you hear the ear piercing screams of the children inside. I am not the only neighbour to have reported them the family the other side of them and the two houses behind have also raised concerns. The 4 year old has just started school and the police were here 3 times over the weekend for varied reasons and the male tenant was arrested, will school be informed of this so they know to monitor or should I raise my welfare concerns with them via email?

If the children were present, the school will be notified, assuming they attend school.

In my experience, yes school are automatically notified if the police attend an incident at a child's home.

Yes children present and they are school age

The school should automatically be notified, but I know from working in education that this doesn't always happen the next school day (as it should, or at all sometimes) so if you are worried then pass on the concerns to the school or find the contact form for your local safeguarding hub.

If you know which school I’d email. They obviously won’t be able to share info but you can explain you have concerns re a child in reception at x address and are aware police attended this weekend. If police have already it’s just another report, if they haven’t (slipped through net) or haven’t yet then it may help the child.

Should do, but I would follow @tinydancer88 advice

I know the school, should I just use the general email address on the website or ring and ask for the safeguard leads email address?

It is worthwhile contacting the school directly. They won’t be able to confirm that the child attends but they will listen to your concerns and ensure they are passed on to the relevant staff.

@LittleBirdy1

I know the school, should I just use the general email address on the website or ring and ask for the safeguard leads email address?

Ask for the safeguard leaf email address

Look on the school's website. They usually have the contact details for safeguarding staff.

Thank you for paying attention and reporting LittleBirdy. Some things cannot be ignored.

The school will be notified and so will social services if a child was present.

There should be a safeguarding page on the school website which will give the contact email address.

I would also report my previous concerns about the children to the school. These things are much less likely to slip through the net with the school than with the HA or even the police as the school can use them to build up a picture with other agencies.

Poor kids.

If the police attended I would keep my nose out. You don't have to do their job.

If you see something the police don't know about, that's a different matter.

I would absolutely phone the school and speak to the designated Safeguarding lead. I would also keep a diary of everything you see and hear. Do not be scared to phone social services or the police. If you can then try and talk to the neighbours the other side, if you can both gather as much evidence then it will really help. As hard as it is, you are this child's safety net. Children are very good at masking how they are feeling/what they are dealing with at school and when police or SS visit they only see a snapshot of what is happening.

The school will be notified. It will be the Designated Safeguarding Lead who will receive the email.

@Jellycatspyjamas

The school will be notified and so will social services if a child was present.

Is this the case even if it's not a "domestic" disturbance but there's e.g. a break-in at the house?

The lead agency are social services for overall safeguarding and police for criminal matters, although they all share information. I’d have no problem speaking to any agency including the school and I’d consider it pretty powerful ( having worked in CP) if a neighbour was so concerned they’d reported concerns.

We all know things slip through the cracks, departments and organisations often don't talk to each other in the way they should. Happens all the time. If someone sending an email makes the school more vigilant of a child, all the better. They are lilkely to know already, but you can help build a picture.

Do the HA get notified when it's a DV or anti social behaviour problem at one of their properties??

@lannistunut

If the police attended I would keep my nose out. You don't have to do their job.

If you see something the police don't know about, that's a different matter.

See I wouldn't know what the police had attended for/been told/passed on. So I would feel I needed to make sure that my regular first hand observations of child abuse had been heard by people with the power to protect those children. In this case the DSL at the school.

Is this the case even if it's not a "domestic" disturbance but there's e.g. a break-in at the house?

No, not if it’s because someone has reported a crime but the OP said the neighbour was arrested and in those cases yes social services would be informed by way of what’s called (where I am) a Vulnerable Persons Report. They would then assess whether they needed to contact the family etc.

Honestly I’d let school know just for my own piece of mind, if something happened you’d never forgive yourself.

@Jellycatspyjamas

Is this the case even if it's not a "domestic" disturbance but there's e.g. a break-in at the house?

No, not if it’s because someone has reported a crime but the OP said the neighbour was arrested and in those cases yes social services would be informed by way of what’s called (where I am) a Vulnerable Persons Report. They would then assess whether they needed to contact the family etc.

Thanks. This is of personal relevance unfortunately. But have already informed the school that we've been the victims of a crime at home.