To say people are totally over reacting about the fuel issue

[TikTokNutcases]

People adamant they can't go to work, so get a train.

Ride a bicycle.

Use the bus.

Talk of closing schools for god sake, whatever next.

It's ridiculous that people rely so heavily on the use of their car that life appears to stop still when they can't drive it.

You don't see this type of hysteria among non drivers, ever.

I don't drive and never have. I've never flapped like this about not being able to go to the supermarket, work etc.

I think TikTok is hopefully in bed now!!

Just looked on FB there's a post saying that buses won't be running tomorrow at all due to driver shortage combined with fuel crisis. That due to where I live and "super schools" means no school until they restart as most kids require those buses (only reason they run).

Feel sorry for their parents.

The main thing is that people who don’t drive do build their lives around how they navigate their world without driving.

But they fail to see the bigger picture of how goods and services of all forms rely on transport.

@friendlycat

The main thing is that people who don’t drive do build their lives around how they navigate their world without driving.

But they fail to see the bigger picture of how goods and services of all forms rely on transport.

I get this.

I'm 40+ bit only had my driving license about 7 years.
Up to that point I took jobs near where olives and biked or walked. I only food shopped in my.local town and went to the city, either Brum or Cov, once or twice a year to clothes shop.

A car widens your horizons and you become used to it so your world gets bigger, so Coventry isn't a 20 minute walk and a 45 minute bus ride away, it's just 20 minutes by car. So you get a better job 20 minute drive away...
But when the car is out of action?
Well, back to over an hour commute.

And that's a short one. I've known people take jobs with a 90minute drive. That would be prohibitively expensive and the journey time would mean leaving the evening before to get to work at 9 in the morning.

Well yes, non car drivers won't get in a panic because they will continue to do what they already do- live and work in places they can get to easily by foot, public transport or bike.

YABU. We're lucky that my partner could work from home if need be, and I work from home anyway. We also walk our DS to school five minutes away. There is one bus once a week from our village to the nearest urban area which is 8 miles away, and no trains for further than that. We live in a very rural part of the Dales.

But my nana (who has Alzheimer's and is housebound), needs us to go to her house to give her groceries - no good getting a delivery as she doesn't put anything away - and clean her house/check on her/clean up cat litter and dishes.

Not to mention she has carers three times a day, which are necessary both to make sure she eats something as she won't feed herself, and give her medication. As she also lives in a slightly less rural village (four buses a week), they absolutely require a car to get to her. If there was ever an emergency, the paramedics would also require fuel.

And then the small matter of us not getting groceries. Even if we don't use any fuel, I'm fairly certain the delivery driver won't be hopping on a train to get to us.

Sorry, forgot to mention she lives 36 miles from us, so it's a 70 mile trip without going anywhere else.

Calm down @TikTokNutcases

You are coming across as a he one who is panicked.... nobody else

Maybe upgrade your social circle if you are hearing so much drama over a fuel issue?

Aye okay. I'm guessing rural Lincolnshire wasn't that rural. My headteacher would love it if we all turned up half hour late, that's if the buses do run on time despite the warnings about disruptions due to Covid. But yep, crack on with your nonsense. I'll walk it. It will be fine.

I don't drive, I never have.

I don't need to because I have made my life fit around my capabilities.

People who do drive do exactly that too.

They need to go to work, sometimes a massive commute with several changes, drop kids at school and nursery, they have caring duties... the list goes on and on.

Just because it isn't (yet) a massive issue for non drivers, until deliveries and transport stops, it doesn't mean it isn't a massive issue. If you can see and comprehend people outside your own little bubble that is.

My friend's aunt can't get to the hospital for her cancer treatment.

Is it really that hard to understand that there are areas that are served by absolutely no public transit. That there are areas where having a car is the difference between total isolation and being part of civilization?

My friend has been caring for his very ill dad for the past 2 weeks and was finally returning home today. 40 mile trip. He couldn’t see ONE petrol station on the way that still had fuel. He wasn’t refuelling as still has some fuel for the week ahead. He’ll walk to work to save it just in case, but next week needs to do a 150 mile trip for work, and be there by 7.30am. Public transport would take 4 hours and there aren’t any trains leaving at 3am anyway. He can’t go the evening before, finished work at 10pm. How on earth is he meant to get there on time?

Yes, people rely on their cars too much. But a few have actual valid reasons why they might be using their cars. If my friend’s work day away was tomorrow instead of next week, he’d be screwed. No fuel -> no work -> no pay -> no money for food and mortgage. Simple as that for many of us without savings, a partner with savings, or an overdraft.

You're suggest getting a bus?.

In London the people out in vans that make sure the buses keep going when there are road closes, collisions, police block off, road works etc.

Fill up in normal filling stations.

They are running out of fuel sooooo...

You're very shortsighted OP.

Bus drivers often need to drive to work because... The buses aren't running yet! Or they drove the last one back.

You rather take things for granted don't you.

@MissTrip82

You don’t see this type of hysteria among non-drivers……

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Thread after thread after thread about non-drivers demanding lifts because they can’t move around independently. Thread after thread after thread by non-drivers too anxious to drive on a road.

It’s awesome though that your food and other supplies reach you solely via non-drivers! That’s amazing! Your supermarkets gets its supplies from cyclists alone? Wow.

Great to hear that your ambulance service is also run by non-drivers! Must be so reassuring when you finally hear the bell on your paramedic’s bike whilst you’re grappling with your central crushing chest pain.

This....

@dryasaboner

What a foolish post

Yes. The OP was told so on the thread she originally posted this on, but evidently assumed that by starting her own thread the response would be different.

People who don't drive (I don't either) generally arrange to live in places where it's not necessary to do so. But in some places, driving is essential.

Moreover, the worst consequence of this crisis is not that individuals may have difficulty getting from A to B, but that essential supplies may be delayed in reaching their destination.

@TikTokNutcases

You are boring

No, you are boring along with the rest of the dramatic people acting as though life as we know it has ended for fuck sake.

A non driver, telling drivers what to do?

Hilarious!

When you're able to drive then come back with your Sanctimony.

You'd be very stuck without people being able to drive, buses, food, health care etc.

I live in a town. It has no train station (nearest 16 miles away) and the bus service to the next large town runs once every 3 hours. I work 32 miles away which is a journey that requires a trip 2 junctions up the motorway. I work shifts that are either 9-5 or 3-11pm.

How do you suggest I get to work without using a car?

I am guessing you live somewhere like London with excellent transport, the reality elsewhere is completely different.

If I run out of fuel I can easily get the bus as can most people I know who live near me. We have really good public transport where I live, so up to now I'm not that worried.

I've got enough about me though to realise that this isn't the case for everyone. Some people live in areas with shit public transport, some are self employed delivery drivers paid per parcel delivered, some are carers with x amount of homes to visit per day, some have too much equipment to make it practical to get the bus, some are ill and worried they might need an ambulance, some understand that most things we buy in the shops are delivered at some point by a lorry running on fuel not a guy on a bike.

Just because you and I are fine (for now) it doesn't prevent us from having a bit of empathy for those who aren't. You can't live in a society completely reliant on fossil fuels and then judge those who actually do have to rely on them.

It is a big deal, as most people rely on their cars for everything. I have sympathy for my colleagues who are struggling. That said, I’m surprised that there don’t seem to have been many creative solutions, like sharing lifts or planning another route to work (surely it’s always worth having a backup plan anyway?) Most of the solutions to the problem being offered in my very urban area just seem to involve asking on SM if anywhere has any petrol and driving around loads of petrol stations.

You seem very self centred and I am ok Jack type of person. Carers have about 5 minutes to get from one place to another and have about 5 morning calls in 2 hours or more. .Do yiu think the confused elderly people and vulnerable will understand if their carer is late to get them up and help go to the toilet, get dressed, have breakfast because their carer had to get the bus or walk!!