Today I received a note from school - apologising for MUDDY CHILDREN
contentiouscat · 06/12/2007 15:17
The weather was bad yesterday and school had the nerve to let the children play out in the mud. Some parents have complained that "the children's clothes became muddy" and the school assures us that "this is not something that will happen regularly"
FFS they are 4 years old they SHOULD come home covered in MUD, GLUE AND PAINT - the more the better I have a bath and a washing machine and I am sure we will all survive.
Such a shame that these parents dont use this indignation on something more productive.
camillathechicken · 06/12/2007 15:23
i remember DS slipping over on the way home from reception and going full tilt into a huge muddy puddle. i had to hold my coat around him to get him undressed before he got in the car he was soaked. so there is muddy , and there is muddy
playing in the mud? do they not have a tarmac playground?
i am all for messy play BTW, but playing in wet slippy mud not always a good idea.
BananaPudding · 06/12/2007 15:24
Ooh, I was all set to post "But young children surely should go out to play and might get dirty in the process?" but come to find we're in agreement. Always feel sad for children at playground who are admonished not to get dirty. Why go to the playground at all then?
SeaShells · 06/12/2007 15:26
DDs nursery try to get the kids outside every day regardless of the weather and dd always comes home covered in mud and abit soggy, even when playing indoors manages to end up covered in glue/paint/glitter from head to toe. At home time, guaranteed there's always a few parents that moan about the state of their kids and their clothes etc, it drives me mad and really feel for the teachers. Yesterday, once we got home, I had to put DDs coat/gloves/hat even wellies all into the washing machine for a quick wash as they were caked in mud, that's what kids do, I think it's brill for her to be able to play without worrying about getting messy. Don't understand some of those parents, wanting to keep their kids pristine, it's not possible!
YuleLoveHekateAtSolstice · 06/12/2007 15:30
Good grief. Mud on kids. How shocking.
There have been times I have had children come in from the garden...I suspect they are mine...they are the right height...but it takes 10 minutes with a flannel before I am able to confirm with certainty.
It's because they are children. Kids are muck magnets and should remain so!
OhLITTLEFISHofBethlehem · 06/12/2007 15:34
Unfortunately we get complaints about this at the nursery where I work. We have written several times to explain to parents the importance of playing outside, including digging in the muddy pit we have! We explained that the children choose whether they want to play outside or not, no matter what the weather.
We have spare wellies and macs, but we've suggested that if they are concerned, they should send in a spare set of old clothes which we will change the children in to before they go outside. In spite of all of this, we still get complaints. I really want to put up a big sign which says DON'T SEND YOUR CHILD TO NURSERY IN CLOTHES WHICH MATTER - IT'S NOT A FASHION SHOW . But of course I'm much too professional for that
It makes me so sad that children are not able to get muddy or dirty in the course of play without parents complaining. I would be really sad if my daughter came home from nursery with clothes as clean as when she went.
TheIceQueen · 06/12/2007 15:37
DS2's nursery actually says in all the stuff you get before they start "don't send them in their best clothes as they're almst certainly going to get dirty" (or words to that effect)......still it doesn't stop those whose PFB is going to nursery sending their children in their "best" clothes for the first term........mind you by the summer term (from experience with DS1 at same nursery) all parents are just sending their children in whatever they pick off the shelf first LOL.
PTA · 06/12/2007 15:38
If you send your children out in Boden clothes then what do you expect? Ds1 goes to nursery in Tesco/Asda/whatever tops. Have also discovered Next Clearance place and got him a whole load of tops for £2.00 each.
We were given the oppertunity to purchase tee shirts and sweatshirts with nursery logo but it was £6 for tee shirt and £8 for sweatshirt. Ds1 would have needed more than one of each and would still have wrecked them.
Let children be children, and getting messy is all part of that!
BTW, a lot of the nurseries up here have bought waterproof overalls for the children. Not sure ho this works, whether each child has his/her own set or whether they share and would also imagine it is a lot more work getting them ready to go out but it does avoid muddy/damp clothes.
OhLITTLEFISHofBethlehem · 06/12/2007 15:49
PTA - it is a bit of a faff getting children into or out of those all in ones, but if that's what needs to be done to make sure they get the same opportunities as all the other children, then that's what we would do! (At the same time as doing everything we could to encourage the parents to send them in in old clothes!)
Contentiouscat - does your Reception class have a policy on outdoor play?
Belgo - I'd love to do it!
Do any of your schools use "Forest Schools"?
PTA · 06/12/2007 16:16
I understand completely about the faffing about but some places are trying to floow the Scandanavian model where the majority of the learning in the early years is done in an outdoor setting, come all weathers.
Love that phrase about the inappropriate clothing!
Wonder if there is something similar for the adults who go out in the middle of winter in just a short sleeved, usually football, top?
Or the youngsters, and not so young, out with very little on on winter evenings on nights out.
I have seen snow thick on the ground an girls in high-heeled sandels and no tights.
contentiouscat · 06/12/2007 16:21
Well I had to laugh as the Ofsted report said ?the vast majority of pupils come from advantaged socio-economic backgrounds? so you are right - I guess we are firmly in Boden central LOL
I just remember how great it was to be out in the rain and mud, splashing in puddles and yes slipping over occasionally ? I think some people view children as must have accessories clean and well behaved but they have so little time now when they can just have FUN.
Of course its inconvenient if junior comes out head to toe in mud when you are shooting off to lunch with him/her but you don?t exactly need to be a genius to just take an extra set of clothes or keep one in their bag D?OH
Niecie · 06/12/2007 16:27
I totally agree that children need to get messy and have fun outside, no matter what the time of year. I don't care about their clothes as such but the only thing I would say is that it is a pain if you have to wash a coat overnight as they are so thick and heavy this time of year that they are difficult to get dry and our tumble dryer is broken. That said, a few splashes of mud will rub off when dry so I am talking a major dunking here.
DS2 always comes home from nursery damp and dirty and that is fine. Last week they had ice cubes outside and were breaking them up to see what was frozen inside. He was damp, dirty and a bit chilly but he had a lovely time.
HappyChristmasWalrusIsOver · 06/12/2007 16:36
DS1 comnes hom from pre scool everry time covered in snad, mud, glitter, glue, paint, snot (his and other children - boak) etc etc etc.
To me iot shows he's had a grand auld time.
Such a shame that parents hate thier kids getting dirty. I find them a bit
MilaMae · 06/12/2007 16:49
That's so sad.
I love it when my lot come home covered in mess, it means they've had a ball, learnt masses and I don't have to do it at home in my tiny house.
In my son's profile at pre-school there is a lovely picture of him and his friend covered in mud making a home for a toad they'd found in the pre-school garden. That pre-school has just been graded as outstanding by OFSTED-says it all really.
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