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My mum is recreating my house bit by bit

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PintOfMild · 21/09/2021 19:17

I know there are bigger problems in the world and I’ve laughed this stuff off for years (it’s a compliment and all that) but it’s starting to really get to me and I just can’t understand it.

My mother (in her 70s) doesn’t seem particularly interested in my house/stuff when she’s here. She’ll never say “ooh that’s nice where did you get it” or “I love that style” etc. in fact, she never says anything, like she’s decidedly disinterested. But once she’s gone, a few days later she’ll text saying she fancies a new xxx with a link to the exact same thing I have and asking what I think about it. If I say “urm… it’s just like mine” she’ll feign ignorance and say she’d never noticed that I had the same thing, which is just crazy because she sits in front of it all the time!

Things she’s copied: paint colours (distinctive bold colours and very unlike her), wardrobe and dressing table (they don’t even match her room), exact same distinctive patterned carpet, sideboard, desk, and computer (she doesn’t even use a computer!), fireplace and hearth, paintings on the wall, same very specific vintage collectible. There was also a craft I started doing and I sent her something I’d made. When I went to her house the next time, her spare room was full of supplies for this craft and she said “hey look what I’ve started doing, do you like them?” Obviously I said “of course, I make these too” and she pretended she didn’t know that I made them. I started looking through the bits and pieces and she showed me a box with lots of examples in it “this is my inspiration box” she said. I spotted the thing I’d made in there and she must have seen it at the same time as she suddenly grabbed the box from me and surreptitiously slide mine out and under a pile of papers.

My partner decided we should take out the (non-functional) fireplace and put the tv and dvd storage there. I was miffed but agreed it was more practical. I mentioned missing it to my mum as I thought it just looked cosy dressed up at Christmas. A few weeks later she had the exact same period fireplace installed (which she would have had to buy reclaimed from somewhere) as if it was a brand new idea of hers and kept saying how lovely and cosy it was now and how much she loves it.

Trying not to be too outing with this one but I showed her something I was getting installed in my home that I had paid for but couldn’t have fitted for a while. She only went and bought it and got it installed first! It was almost the exact same thing - looked the same but was a different version. When she realised it was the different version that I was getting, she looked really wide-eyed and shocked and said “I thought you were getting this version?” I thought nothing of it but a few weeks later she had the whole thing ripped out and replaced with the version I was getting even though it looked exactly the same. It’s complete madness.

A few months ago I needed to get a new car and mentioned to her that I’d love xxx car but couldn’t afford it and I ended up buying something else. My dad had no idea of this conversation but recently said to me “it’s weird but mum is suddenly obsessed with getting xxx car even though ours is fine” and that she was desperately searching the listings all day, every day, even considering ones at the opposite end of the country! It’s bonkers! Luckily my dad vetoed it.

AIBU to have had enough now? I just don’t see how she can send me a photo of her new hallway with my carpet, my side table, my very specific vintage collectible that she’s never had an interest in displayed on it and ask if I like it. And then claim that she has never noticed that my hallway is EXACTLY the same!

It can’t just be that she likes my style or can’t put things together herself so copies mine, as my friend keeps telling me. It’s like she stalks everything about me, trying to replicate my life and outdo me whenever she can, which is weird and a bit hurtful tbh - why would she feel compelled to do this?

Any insight would be helpful. I’m starting to worry for her sanity (and my own).

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HalzTangz · 21/09/2021 22:09

Do your dad never say to her how come your buying everything daughter buys

Cherrysoup · 21/09/2021 22:26

I’m sorry, I’d have to mess with her and tell her something batshit I was considering for the lounge.....

Ericaequites · 21/09/2021 22:26

@Lostmarbles2021 - That room really needs a matching hostess gown for its inhabitant. The guests would be really confused by an apparent talking head hovering above the couch.

fuzzymoomin · 21/09/2021 22:33

I would guess if she has a reduced and sheltered life herself then she is idolising your life, and buying everything you have/doing everything you do is her way of reaching out to a life that she admires or aspires to.
My mum is similar although to a less extreme extent. She copies my clothes, make up, home furnishings, although she's diplomatic enough to check and not wear the same outfit when I am, it still really irritates me. She's never gone as far as home decor or larger scale.
It might seem like it's not hurting you as some previous have said, but I imagine it is affecting your life because you'll find yourself avoiding her or becoming anxious about interacting with her. I think you should mention it, gently, point out how many things she's recreated from your home. Just pointing it out might be enough to calm her down.

OwlinaTree · 21/09/2021 22:38

I think this is when the child has usurped the parent as the pivotal member of the family. The parent is used to being the hub of the family and as time passes and the child gets older they become the hub. The parent find it hard to let go. She is copying you to try to keep that role as the centre of the family.

HikingforScenery · 21/09/2021 22:39

@Goingbackto5oh5

Are you an only child OP? How long after you had your current house did she started copying you? I wonder if she misses having you around and feels like having what you have makes her feel closer to you? The way she gets flustered obviously shows that she's doing it on purpose but thought she was being discreet. It would totally weird me out but I get that it's hard because it's your mum.
I agree with this. I couldn’t believe there’s anything sinister behind this if my mum did the same, although I’d find it very strange zinc wonder if she’s mental health issues
PintOfMild · 21/09/2021 22:45

@OnlySpam Have you read the thread? I'm pretty sure you'd be concerned too if your mother literally recreated a room in her house piece for piece and acted as if she she'd never noticed you had these things the billion or so times she'd been to yours.

This is not a case of being a bit irked that someone copied my style, I'm seriously questioning her mental health because of the manner in which she does it and her spending her days obsessively coveting things. Of course it seems trivial to you - you aren't living it.

Thanks to everyone for your responses, it's clearly a much deeper issue and I'm still reading up on borderline personality, nodding away at every other line, so thank you for suggesting it. Although I don't think she would entertain any kind of assessment or treatment at this stage of life, I'll certainly keep it in mind when navigating conversations and try and help her to ground herself in her own identity.

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UndertheCedartree · 21/09/2021 22:45

I know it must be frustrating but it definitely sounds like she is mentally unwell

UndertheCedartree · 21/09/2021 22:46

Posted too soon...so I'd look at getting her some support with her mental health.

UndertheCedartree · 21/09/2021 22:49

Please don't mess with her she is probably already embarrassed enough.

OnlySpam · 21/09/2021 22:52

OK - go into a battle with a mentally unwell woman then. You clearly want to. You started a thread and I've responded with my opinion. You can do what you want with my opinion. It makes no odds to me Grin

PintOfMild · 21/09/2021 22:53

@OwlinaTree I have considered if that might be part of it. It must be a strange experience.

@Goingbackto5oh5 @HikingforScenery I'm the youngest of three but I'm 40 and haven't lived with her since I was 15! I'm not sure she feels closer to me by doing it, but perhaps she feels she's living somewhat vicariously through me.

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Goingbackto5oh5 · 21/09/2021 23:01

[quote PintOfMild]@OwlinaTree I have considered if that might be part of it. It must be a strange experience.

@Goingbackto5oh5 @HikingforScenery I'm the youngest of three but I'm 40 and haven't lived with her since I was 15! I'm not sure she feels closer to me by doing it, but perhaps she feels she's living somewhat vicariously through me.[/quote]
I posted before your other updates and take back what I said, especially after you having mentioned your childhood of the moving around and different relationships. I think she is living through you because you have something she hasn't had - stability. There may be something deeper here but not for us to decide.
I think you're right, it would be best just not to mention things that you like/items you're considering purchasing in future. And maybe minimise the number of times she visits you in your house and arrange visits somewhere else instead.

Moneysavvymam · 21/09/2021 23:04

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Igneo · 21/09/2021 23:07

It all seems jolly wasteful. How about adopting a ‘buy nothing’ approach, and hopefully she will copy you into a less materialistic focus? Although buying stuff is possibly the only time she really does anything, from your comments.

If she’s in her 60’s or 70’s, addressing a severe mental health condition she has masked for many years would be a massive challenge.

PintOfMild · 21/09/2021 23:12

@OnlySpam I understand you can post what you like but who said anything about going into battle with my 74 year old mother who is clearly going through something?

Let me summarise the thread for you as you clearly haven't read it.

Me: All this stuff has happened and it's gone beyond being a bit irritating to completely bonkers. Something must be up.
Them: Look up borderline personality disorder, it can be a sign.
Me: Shit yeah, this absolutely fits, she's clearly unwell and I'm going to try and help her in the ways that I can.

Ok? Night night then.

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Xiaoxiong · 21/09/2021 23:14

I wonder what her childhood was like and how her personality developed (or didn't). The thing you said about how if she didn't go out with you and your dad she would literally sit at home like a broken doll is actually heartbreakingly sad. I can't imagine being so...empty? Is that the right description?

Xiaoxiong · 21/09/2021 23:19

I see that meditation is one of the things that is supposed to help with borderline personality disorder- I wonder if you suggested that you were going to start meditating, having therapy, doing yoga or something for your own self care, she might copy that and benefit from it?

OnlySpam · 21/09/2021 23:50

Op - I don't care Grin

LemonJuiceFromConcentrate · 22/09/2021 10:09

It’s fascinating how often people who claim not to care feel compelled to come back and post that they don’t care, with a jaunty emoji. Just so we are all absolutely clear about how little they care.

alltheeights · 22/09/2021 10:58

My mum and dad are very much like this not necessarily with only me though. My mum does it with decor and food etc. My dad is more with other people....will hear what people say and then that's that...the best or worst thing depending on what he has heard and buy all of it or non of it just on once persons say so.

Both suffer with BPD and my dad a personality disorder.

It's bloody annoying and I won't pretend it doesn't bug me or make me want to scream but I already know that it's down to their disorders rather than just being annoying.

If it is a new thing she has starting doing it could be a sign of dementia....as she has seen you with it/do it/speak of it but she genuinely thinks it's her own idea later on.....I'm no mental health expert though so I'm just putting it out there.

Definitely worth a chat with other people close to her. I would definitely avoid "playing" on it or testing how far she would go, that seems a little cruel.

alltheeights · 22/09/2021 11:03

Also wasn't aiming that you was being cruel, just some comments have said to play with her.

Honestly I know how frustrating it is and I hope you are able to get to the bottom of what ever is causing it xx

BunnytheFriendlyDragon · 22/09/2021 11:04

Talk to her

PintOfMild · 22/09/2021 11:40

@Xiaoxiong You're right, her childhood was pretty crappy and I think her mother was very much the same. I like the idea of modelling some habits that might be beneficial. I'm not sure I can see my mother getting into yoga or meditation but you know what, it's worth a shot!

@LemonJuiceFromConcentrate Wink

@alltheeights That's interesting, thank you for sharing your experience. It has happened for a few years but has definitely ramped up massively over the last couple. I expect Covid isolation hasn't helped anyone teetering on the edge of dementia.

I'd never really play with her, as funny as it is to joke about collecting taxidermy animals!

@BunnytheFriendlyDragon I'd love to talk to her about it but she would never open up, she would deny and avoid until it blew over. She probably doesn't even realise what's going on fully herself. It really does fit in with other issues she has and I think all I can do is be as gentle as possible about it.

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Xiaoxiong · 22/09/2021 14:36

I think the modelling healthy habits might be a productive way to channel this part of her personality. Since she is copying things that you do, you need to change what you share with her. Naturally your instinct is to tell her what's going on in your life with your new boiler or wallpaper or whatever but I would knock all of that on the head. Instead tell her you're doing a "new year new you" focus on health and well-being and would she join you for a walk/yoga/swimming/guided meditation, or download the headspace app and tell her you have a referral code and you'd love it if she'd do it with you, etc etc. If you actively say "mum it would be so nice if we could do this together" she would feel wanted and included, perhaps.

It sounds like you'll never get her to open up or have any insight into what's going on with her or maybe it's too scary for her to contemplate. So instead, maybe leverage her natural tendency to copy you to make it things that could help her.

Worst case scenario, she says no, but at least then she's not copying you!