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How would you fix the worlds problems?

277 replies

Moneysavvymam · 21/09/2021 14:14

I think i have it, I really do.
Everyone is using food banks, right? unemployment is rife. Depression, anxiety, suicide. Obesity. Anti social behaviour and crime rates.

Okay. Are you ready?

Community gardens and orchards. Free to pick what you like, children's and adults clubs to teach people when to pick, sow, etc. Not just food but flowers. Trees. Perenials such as rhubarb, kale and others. I really think that it could work.

I saw a TED Talk about a town who has a whole community or people who grow food in random places wherever there is a free bit of grass and I swear to god I think it could work really well.

I actually can't see a problem arising and if the problem is 'the economy' well how? Because when people are struggling to pay for food I really dgaf about the economy.
Allotments are a nice idea but many are full and have waiting lists of Years and years.

We have a couple of small, secret almost community gardens in a few big parks in our city and they are really cute, work well. Nobody ruins them and if someone took all of the cucumbers then there is a spirit of 'well I guess they needed them'. Part of the reward is in the growing and outside space and time.

Also flowers. There are so many people living in tiny flats with no or very little outside space. Wouldn't adding a few flowers be nice? Maybe a pear tree or 2.

Its the good life isn't it? A very frequent dream is packing up and living off the land. Well why not communal land? What good is that piece of grass? Needs cutting, is littered all over and what? Pooed on?

I'm not some radical who will go round digging up peoples gardens or anything but I was thinking about a previous poster who said that they sorted out their communal garden in their flats and only after she made it nice did everyone else start using it. Well wouldn't the same happen everywhere?
People pay money to go to botanical gardens, so there is a market for this (if you know what I mean)

There could be communal run compost bins which would dramatically reduce waste and green house gasses. That compost would mean almost no costs because that's the main one isn't it?
Classes could be held at libraries and community centres about seed saving.
Everyone could save their pot noodle pots and yoghurt tubs for plant pots. Arts and crafts fairs could have children painting them, I just can't see a downside.

That is how I would fix the worlds problems anyway.

OP posts:
BIoodyStupidJohnson · 21/09/2021 18:29

@LukeEvansWife Well when you start your regime off with a global genocide the only way is up, I suppose!

LukeEvansWife · 21/09/2021 18:30

[quote BIoodyStupidJohnson]@LukeEvansWife Well when you start your regime off with a global genocide the only way is up, I suppose![/quote]
Ah now that’s a good point

AutistGoth · 21/09/2021 18:33

@LukeEvansWife Don't worry, I'm sure my autistic, infertile, epileptic, Jewish (practising, at that) self will be first on the eradication list. Before the men, even. My autistic, epileptic, interfaith, white male husband will probably be next.

AutistGoth · 21/09/2021 18:35

[quote BIoodyStupidJohnson]@LukeEvansWife Well when you start your regime off with a global genocide the only way is up, I suppose![/quote]
Yes. Quite.

JaninaDuszejko · 21/09/2021 18:38

@fixeroftheworld

Halve the worlds population by eliminating most of the men. Then we can assess what women can do in the absence of inbuilt patriarchal systems. We can reassess in 2000 years, by which time the male population will have recovered.
I hate to break it to you but it won't take 1000 years for the male population to increase to current levels unless you cull most of the baby boys in each generation for the next 900 years or so. If you killed off 99% of the men now but then didn't kill again then as soon we only have people born after the cull (so ~73 years) we'll be back to 50:50 male:female.

What is required to improve the world varies with time and current concerns. So, at the moment: educating all girls to 18, ending period poverty, stopping FGM, providing free contraception and maternity care will make a massive difference. Massive incentives and pressure to develop a carbon neutral economy and a proper reduce reuse recycle business culture. Addressing the toxic male culture across all world cultures that results in so much domestic violence, violent crime, terrorism and institutional misogyny. That'll do to start with!

Blossomtoes · 21/09/2021 18:40

@barbrahunter

Make women in charge.
Absolutely. Although reading MN sometimes, you’d have to be careful which women.
NannyOggsWhiskyStash · 21/09/2021 18:41

Universal basic income as a starting point, leading to the end of capitalism, it patently does not work. Religion only as a hobby. Politicians and models chosen by lottery.

Mantlemoose · 21/09/2021 18:41

@Nothanksverymuch

A nuclear bomb or a meteor ought to do it TBH
This
LukeEvansWife · 21/09/2021 18:43

This thread shows why being a woman doesn’t make you any less batshit than a man

arield · 21/09/2021 18:45

Put all politicians worldwide on their countries minimum wage.

Yeah, that'd really attract the best talent to run the country.

Don't people think properly about this stuff?

MatildaIThink · 21/09/2021 19:00

@NannyOggsWhiskyStash

Universal basic income as a starting point, leading to the end of capitalism, it patently does not work. Religion only as a hobby. Politicians and models chosen by lottery.
Capitalism has brought more people out of poverty than any other system that has ever existed. UBI just won't work, because too make it practical you have to make it high enough that people can live off of it with no other benefits, at which point too few people are productive to pay for everyone else, it would be the fastest crumbling pyramid scheme possible.

The best system, as evidenced by most of Scandanavia is a properly functioning capitalist economy with a strong social democratic system. They have high taxes, benefits for those who need them, the best healthcare and education systems in the world, some of the highest happiness ratings in the world. Or you could take a look at countries which have abolished capitalism, they are the countries which throughout the last 100+ years people have been trying to flee, and the countries they have been fleeing to are... capitalist.

MatildaIThink · 21/09/2021 19:01

@arield

Put all politicians worldwide on their countries minimum wage.

Yeah, that'd really attract the best talent to run the country.

Don't people think properly about this stuff?

Nope, most of it seems to be fuelled by either envy, or outright hatred of anyone who is a little bit more successful than them.
FrippEnos · 21/09/2021 19:01

@arield

Put all politicians worldwide on their countries minimum wage.

Yeah, that'd really attract the best talent to run the country.

Don't people think properly about this stuff?

Funny how giving someone a lot of money to do a job so the best people are attracted seems to only be for CEOs, politicians etc. and not teachers, nurses, social workers etc.
LukeEvansWife · 21/09/2021 19:01

So we have a choice between a supposed jump back to the insular times of growing stuff and expecting everyone to be nice and fair, or genocide. Fucking hell

MLMbotsno · 21/09/2021 19:05

No tax havens anywhere I the world.
No one can have more than a million in assets in ownership. On sale any over this redistribute to third world countries.
No more than 2 children per family.
No religions.
Oh heck there's so much more but dinner is cooking

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 21/09/2021 19:07

“Women are much nicer and less psychopathic than men. Let’s kill all the men!” Grin Hmm

MilduraS · 21/09/2021 19:16

I lived on a road that had a community herb garden on a big roundabout. It was lovely and I saved so much money on fancy recipes that needed fresh herbs.

arield · 21/09/2021 19:22

Funny how giving someone a lot of money to do a job so the best people are attracted seems to only be for CEOs, politicians etc. and not teachers, nurses, social workers etc.

How do you feel about highly paid professors, specialist surgeons etc?

AutistGoth · 21/09/2021 19:40

Well, I'm sure the press will have a field day with this thread when they get hold of it. Somehow, I can't imagine calls for mass murder giving the website, or women generally, a very good image.

Unless @MNHQ are going to pull this thread.

AutistGoth · 21/09/2021 19:45

@LukeEvansWife indeed, I'm not sure if I fancy living in Mao Zedong's China or Pol Pot's Cambodia; which is what some of these lists of demands amount to.

Nor do I fancy going back to the early Common Era period of everyone living off the land in insular communities.

Stompythedinosaur · 21/09/2021 20:08

I'd have 100% tax after you own a certain (high) amount.

Ban private education and healthcare.

I'd give good consideration to licensing parenting.

MatildaIThink · 21/09/2021 20:18

Funny how giving someone a lot of money to do a job so the best people are attracted seems to only be for CEOs, politicians etc. and not teachers, nurses, social workers etc.

It is all a matter of scale, there are 100 FTSE 100 CEOs (well technically at the moment there are 99, as one is interim), most of those companies are multi-national, the best in the world, 100 people out of seven billion. Companies are owned by their shareholders, they choose the CEO, if they do not like them then they can vote them out. There are only 650 MPs, out of a population of 50 million ish eligible people, they are chosen by elections, if the population do not like them then they can vote them out. There are 624,520 teachers, 540,527 nurses and 110,966 social workers in the UK a scale which means that you both can not afford to pay them large amounts, they are also not elected by either their shareholders (because there are none), nor elected.

Now do I think teachers, nurses and social workers should be paid more? Yes, absolutely! But they are also not worth £100k or more a year and nor could we afford to pay them £100k+ a year.

MatildaIThink · 21/09/2021 20:21

@Stompythedinosaur

I'd have 100% tax after you own a certain (high) amount.

Ban private education and healthcare.

I'd give good consideration to licensing parenting.

Then my husband and I will not bother working if we do not get to keep the proceeds of our work, which means the tax take will drop, the economy will shrink fewer people will be employed etc.

Also if you ban private education you would need to increase the education budget by more than a third and private healthcare actually takes some of the strain off of the NHS, people who have already paid for their treatment via taxation pay again via private healthcare so they are a net benefit as well.

Whilst it is obvious there are people who are unfit to be parents who gets to decide? What if it is me and I decide that because of your political views you should not be allowed to raise children, would you think that was fair?

NannyOggsWhiskyStash · 21/09/2021 20:22

Ah but you are confusing capitalism with ethics. If everything was free, and people did what they had a talent or an aptitude for, what's the issue. Most things can be automated

MatildaIThink · 21/09/2021 20:36

@NannyOggsWhiskyStash

Ah but you are confusing capitalism with ethics. If everything was free, and people did what they had a talent or an aptitude for, what's the issue. Most things can be automated
Ah but you are confusing capitalism with ethics. If everything was free, and people did what they had a talent or an aptitude for, what's the issue. Most things can be automated Unfortunately many people do not have a talent or aptitude. Also, some things can be automated, but there is also a huge cost to that automation, group A are not going to pay for those things to be automated so that group B can sit around and live of the efforts of automation and the work of group A.

I work in scientific research, processes have been automated over time, especially lab work, that means we do more research, get results quicker, etc. That was not so that a bunch of lab techs could sit at home being paid for a piece of equipment to do their job, those lab techs now do different jobs in the lab, research improves.

If I work harder, work smarter, develop things which have a benefit to society, why should I not be able to benefit from that? I believe in a social safety net and a far better one than we currently have, but I do not believe that we should create a group of people who do not work because they don't want to and I have to provide for them.