To be amazed at this job ad

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Saw an ad for a job that states the candidate must be great at ‘managing his time’in the Person Specification! In 2021…

The company is Global Interactive Marking Online

@WestendVBroadway

^^ I meant a typo as in 'They were probably meant to write 'manage their time'. However the person writing the advert obviously is a Mumsnetter, and we all now how much MN hates the pronoun THEIR, so they accidentally defaulted back to his lest they offend readers.

How the heck is his a typo for their? In that scenario writing her would have made me sense at least all the letters for her are present in the word their.

From other parts of the ad I suspect it's been written in India

There really is no excuse for this, especially when companies expect applicants to write perfect English and have no typos. This is someone's job. Someone's been paid to write this job ad and they have made a glaring mistake in it.

Of course it's not a typo, for goodness sake

Yes OP it jumped out for me too.

The job is located in London

Definitely needs calling out.

Can't believe that some PPs don't understand the problem with this advert!

Every year I feel we go back 10 years in sexual equality. Give it 50 years and we'll lose the power to vote!

A female might not apply
That’s not good is it. In any scenario.

Can't believe that some PPs don't understand the problem with this advert!

To be fair, some PPs don’t know what a typo is.

I’m back to muse at the enormous slip of the fingers that would turn ‘their’ into ‘his’. That’s some very bad typing indeed.

The language in general is strange - looks like it's written by someone who speaks English in a business/second language context
It should have been checked over though before being released to the general public.

Experience targeting the Indian market... hmm...

I think that's a pretty big clue. I work for a company where one of the senior managers is from India and he is ALWAYS referring to people who do my job (and other jobs deemed typically masculine) with he/him pronouns. He's been told by multiple people to knock it off but still persists. I suspect that what we're seeing here is that the person editing the job spec missed this one instance of male pronoun usage but took out the rest.

@FuckingFlumps How the heck is his a typo for their? In that scenario writing her would have made me sense at least all the letters for her are present in the word their.
The irony of not understanding how simple errors are made.

[quote SnickettyLemon]**@FuckingFlumps* How the heck is his a typo for their? In that scenario writing her would have made me* sense at least all the letters for her are present in the word their.
The irony of not understanding how simple errors are made.[/quote]
Yes that was a simple error when typing quickly on a public forum.

This is a job advert presumably checked several times by more than one person before being published.

Not comparable at all.

Interesting piece in the paper today

www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/19587604.time-emasculate-male-coded-job-advertisements/?ref=ebln

I work in a male-dominated industry and when discussions for a role occur, the prospective candidate is usually referred to as He. It is sexist.

If they were looking at a role more traditionally done by a woman, they would probably say She.

If you refer to a doctor, dentist, accountant or solicitor or similar professional, people tend to assume it's a man.

If you say teacher, nurse, florist, shop assistant, hairdresser etc people tend to assume it's a woman.

Stop making an issue where there isn't one.

it is an issue though. It puts women off applying for the job.

I complained to the Deutsche Bahn a few years ago for their job ads in the trains. They wanted drivers/engineers, and asked for m/f/x, but all the photos in the ad were men. Right next to it was an ad for stewards, also m/f/x (I think it's the law here) but all the pictures were of women. Because serving drinks is a woman's job but train driving is a manly man's job.

Anyway they replied with "shrug - we asked for m/w/x" and when i replied with "what are the statistics of male / female drivers and male/female stewards" they didn't reply. I use trains a lot and i know the answer to that. (for the record: i rarely see women driving trains - and when a train pulls in and you can see the woman driver there are ALWAYS comments about it. Stewards/ticket controllers seems around 60/40 men to women)

@BlackberryMuncher

🙄🙄🙄

Perhaps the person they're replacing is male & they were thinking more about the attributes the person needs, not what's between their legs. Stop making an issue where there isn't one.

There definitely is an issue.

In my childhood, I remember being asked if I would like to be a nurse when I grew up. Had I been a boy, I would have been asked if I'd like to be a doctor.

I remember being told 'A woman can't be a prime minister'.

In one of my first jobs I was told in a meeting that there was 'No point in training women, they just leave to have babies'

Sadly that probably won’t surprise me in 2031 or even 2041.

It's pretty obvious that ad is written by somebody whose first language is not English, looks like they just made a mistake with their possessive pronoun (and incidentally, 'their' would also be incorrect).

All those people that cannot see the issue, maybe educate yourselves. The Every Day Sexism Project is a good place to start: everydaysexism.com/#:~:text=The%20Everyday%20Sexism%20Project%20exists%20to%20catalogue%20instances,or%20a%20pseudonym%20%E2%80%93%20it%E2%80%99s%20up%20to%20you.

Do it for all our daughters.

Perhaps they know that all women would have no problem at managing their time but they are not sure the same would apply to a man?

I agree it reads like it was written by someone whose first language is not English, or like it was translated badly. Still not good though!

Don't worry, i live in SA, so we get job adverts with "Women only" "EE- which means black applicants only". Then on top of that ages too. Under 35 or over 35!!

And if it were to say 'her', would you be jumping up and down saying that they are implying that a woman was, in general, unable to manager her time?

I couldn't be bothered to get worked up about this.

@FrauleinF

That would have immediately jumped out at and irked me too, OP.

Funny how the phrase "managing her time" etc seemimgly never ever gets written by mistake on such things.

Exactly. Sadly, the world is still full of casual sexism. If we don't point it out, things will never change.