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Are school dinners healthy?

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HungryHippo11 · 16/09/2021 22:14

What is the general opinion of school dinners? I know they're free but this is what my daughter has had this week:
Sausages and mash
Omelet and diced potatoes (chips)
Pizza and wedges (chips)
Some sort of vegetable pie and roast potatoes
Fish fingers and chips
All come with a portion of veg.

I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure if a mum posted on here that her child had chips 4 times in a week, that wouldn't be considered a healthy diet. And I realise they're on a tight budget and for some kids the alternative is no lunch, so they're providing a service the best they can. But would you be happy with this? I'm thinking I might just send her with packed lunches instead.

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Highfivemum · 13/04/2022 23:08

Better than my DC sch that stopped sch dinners and ripped out the kitchen. They now get a sandwich that is brought in from a larger school. Appalling

scandiinuk · 14/04/2022 09:53

This is a topic that is so interesting to me. I'm Swedish, have lived in England for a long time, and have worked in schools. It shocked me to see the standard of food served here. It is not healthy, and the argument that 'they wouldn't eat it otherwise' is not necessarily true - children often eat what other children eat, so school is a great place to create good eating habits. It is very common for Swedish children to happily eat 'strange food' in nursery school - but to be difficult to please at home: they will eat what everyone else eats.

A long time ago I worked in a school kitchen for a short while. I told my then colleagues that chips and crips would never ever be served in Swedish schools - they are not healthy. 'But don't you ever eat potatoes' I was asked. Oh yes - boiled potatoes. Much healthier. Sometimes mash. They looked at me like I had three heads 'children would never eat that'. Well some do!

In Swedish schools, desserts are offered maybe 1-2 times a term (so 3-4 times a year). There is always a salad bar with kidney beans, sweet corn and other vegetables and crisp bread (not soft bread daily). (This is the description of the salad bar in the city of Lund: 'There are at least five different vegetable components, at least three of which must be rich in fibre, at least one pulse and at least one salad vegetable or fruit. The aim is that each child eats 100-125 grams of vegetables or fruit with their school lunch'.) Rarely fried food. Never anything deepfried. School dinners are nutritionally balanced, calculated to meet 1/3 of the daily requirements over a period of time. And yes, school dinners are free for everyone, nobody brings a packed lunch.

This is a recent list of the most popular school dinners served in the city of Malmo in south Sweden, a very multicultural city with 350 000 inhabitants:

  1. Broccoli soup (veggie) [particularly interesting to see this one at the top given that a previous poster in this thread said that children would never eat that].
  2. Pastasauce with tomatoes and herbs (veggie)
  3. Filet of fish with vegetables and herbs
  4. Italian macaroni gratin (veggie)
  5. Lasagne, vegetables, cheese (veggie)
  6. Breaded fish with potatoes (boiled!) and cold sauce
  7. Spagetti with chicken mince or soy mince sauce (veggie and meat)
  8. Tacos with chicken mince or soy mince (veggie and meat
  9. Pasta gratin with salmon

www.magasinmaltid.se/vegetarisk-skrall-i-malmos-skolor/

Yes, there are mince dishes on the top list - but not only. And 7 of the 9 dishes are veggie or pescetarian.

Bad health due to poor choices is a massive issue. I wish schools would start serving healthy food and not blame 'they don't want it', and that parents would support schools in this. But given Jamie Oliver's failure to show people how important this is, it won't happen in a long time at least. It is sad that so many children get a bad start.

I do think it is a bit better than it used to be though, but many schools seem to still treat vegetables as 'extras', so not included in the (almost inevitable) mince dish - much easier to avoid then. I web searched a random school and listing one option as 'sandwiches' does not really give me confidence that that would be a balanced meal. Chips at least once a week. Green cabbage - I'd happily eat it, but the way vegetables just seem to be boiled/steamed and added here does not make them appealing. Dessert every day. It could have been worse, but it's not a great menu.
www.victory.southwark.sch.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/VPS-Aut-2021-Menu.pdf

Today's food in Malmo's schools is fish in creamy mustard sauce and boiled potatoes or pea mince with boiled potatoes and carrot tzatziki. Yesterday's food was potato and leek soup, soft wholemeal no-additives-or-E-numbers bread with spreads.

Owwlie · 14/04/2022 14:22

I think the problem is that there’s a real mix between schools, depending on the catering company. I work in a secondary and we’ve had 3 caterers in the time I’ve been there. One was awful but one was really good, unfortunately didn’t get the contract renewed due to the cost. It comes down the funding, schools need to be better funded.

The caterers at DDs school have good healthy options, and a real mix, curries, omelette, vegetable jambalaya, roasts dinners, pasta dishes and a salad bar everyday, but they also offer jacket potatoes and sandwiches because as @Pinotwoman82 says, that meal will be the only one of the day for some children, there needs to be an option they will eat. And pizza and chips is pretty much a guarantee for most kids. Better that they’ve eaten something than starve. It’s the same at home as well, for some parents they can’t afford to waste £5 on a meal their kids won’t eat when it only costs a couple of quid for chicken nuggets and their kids aren’t going hungry.

whowhatwerewhy · 14/04/2022 14:30

If your unhappy with the free school lunch , send in a packed lunch.

OnceAgainWithFeeling · 14/04/2022 14:55

They’re DREADFUL here.

“What did you have for lunch today?”

“Pizza. I left the mash though.”

“Mash?”

“Yes. Everything has to have potatoes or pasta with it and they didn’t have any chips.”

“Any veg?”

“Sweetcorn.”

“And pudding?”

“Arctic roll.”

So carbs with carbs and carbs followed by carbs then?

Repeat daily.

I’ve taken her off school dinners and I give her actual food now.

Whatalovelydaffodil · 14/04/2022 14:58

It all depends on how those lunches have been cooked and the quality of the ingredients.

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