Poll - will you be letting your 12-15 DC be vaccinated

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YABU - no
YANBU - yes

The same study has stated that young males are 6 x more likely to suffer myocarditis from the virus infection than from. The vaccine so it's a no brainer yes from me.

Whataboutno But to have that 6 X higher risk, they'd have to actually catch Covid, which isn't a given. None of my children have had it yet (as far as we know), despite me and my husband both having it and many of their friends. So it isn't a 6 X higher risk in reality, I don't think. Unless the data was somehow adjusted to allow for not everyone catching it but I don't see how they can have been.

I understand that this health issue can occur as a result of a virus (not just Covid, any virus). But the vaccination is a deliberate decision whereas catching a virus is something that may or may not happen and we can't control. I would feel uncomfortable about making that decision on behalf of someone else when there is a risk, however small. If they wanted to make that decision for themselves of course, that would be absolutely fine with me.

My ds is 17 but had both when he was 16 (also CV as had neurological condition).

I was more than happy for him to have it after discussions with his neurologist but ultimately I said the decision was his.

He chose to have it.

@itsgettingwierd

My ds is 17 but had both when he was 16 (also CV as had neurological condition).

I was more than happy for him to have it after discussions with his neurologist but ultimately I said the decision was his.

He chose to have it.

I will add for him the benefits outweighed the risk.

Although his neuro said covid itself wasn't a greater risk for him there is emerging evidence there is a higher incidence of long covid on those with neurological disorders.

Chris Whitty alluded to this during a briefing too.

There has also been evidence the vaccine reduces risk of long covid.

Whataboutno - I don't know if we are thinking of the same study but this US study says the opposite - that the risk of myocarditis caused by the Pfizer vaccine in 12-15 year old boys is 4-6 higher than the risk of them ending up in hospital from the virus.
www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/10/boys-more-at-risk-from-pfizer-jab-side-effect-than-covid-suggests-study

Already have , signed up as soon as it was available here and they are fully vaccinated now

I have a teen who needs to have her HPV first dose in the next few weeks so I am not sure yet as to having both plus flu vaccine all in close succession. HPV vaccine is in her interests. Thinking of getting her a Covid antibody test first. So wait and see here for now. She has definitely been impacted by all the protests against the vaccine near her school- she was keen to have it and now is scared. It can all be very confusing for them.

For those who say their teen won't be "allowed" to have it, have a look at Gillicks competency. If they want it and are deemed competent (so most NT teens), they can have it whether you like it or not. They may of course adhere to your wishes, but you can't actually stop them if they just go to a walk-in vaccination centre.

The coronavirus topic doesn't have a voting option

Neither does AIBU, the 'vote ' is for whether the OP is being unreasonable or not, not to do a poll.

I don't have a 12- 15 year old but if I did I would want them to be vaccinated.

Yes my ds will be having it. We have discussed pros and cons. He wants to have the vaccine and I agree.

Yes. DS has a friend who has long covid. He's been out of school over a year now. Such a bright lad, he should have the world at his feet, now it's a good day when he manages to sit up for a while. GCSEs look like a write off. And he's a YEAR in.

Yes my DS 14 has had it already. He was very keen to do so , DD 16 had hers as well. Got it early as DH vulnerable. Feel glad he is better protected against this horrible virus.

DD14 is desperate to have it and we think she should to.

I like @Takingabreakagain's idea of giving children an antibody test, DS has had 3 periods of self isolation due to a positive close contact. One of those was a girl he sits next to at school. I find it hard to understand how he hasn't had it - more likely he has and was asymptomatic. An antibody test would definitely help my decision making.

No. I habe a boy aged 15 who takes AHDH meds which can increase heart rate so don't want to put more pressure on his heart.

Plus he had COVID late July so at the moment has some natural immunity.

Yes we will. None of the safety data is concerning. Why wouldn't I protect them as much as I can?

It is their decision as to whether they have it or not. I will support them whatever they decide.

Those saying the risks are minimal, you don’t know the long term risks, nobody does, only the initial risks.

Please read this extract from JCVI:

The available evidence indicates that the individual health benefits from COVID-19 vaccination are small in those aged 12 to 15 years who do not have underlying health conditions which put them at risk of severe COVID-19. The potential risks from vaccination are also small, with reports of post-vaccination myocarditis being very rare, but potentially serious and still in the process of being described. Given the rarity of these events and the limited follow-up time of children and young people with post-vaccination myocarditis, substantial uncertainty remains regarding the health risks associated with these adverse events.

Overall, the committee is of the opinion that the benefits from vaccination are marginally greater than the potential known harms (tables 1 to 4) but acknowledges that there is considerable uncertainty regarding the magnitude of the potential harms. The margin of benefit, based primarily on a health perspective, is considered too small to support advice on a universal programme of vaccination of otherwise healthy 12 to 15-year-old children at this time. As longer-term data on potential adverse reactions accrue, greater certainty may allow for a reconsideration of the benefits and harms. Such data may not be available for several months.

She wants it, so - yes.

All of ours are double vaccinated as over 18, just, I would let them make the decision ultimately if under 18 anyway

@Takingabreakagain

I think it would be useful if the government offered an antibody test so parents and children could see if they are already immune. The decision would be more informed that way.

I would like this too . My 13 year old will not be having it , she has had the virus , recovered well . Has had every vaccine so far ,but i will not be giving her a vaccine with no knowledge of long term effects .

@Sparklingbrook

The coronavirus topic doesn't have a voting option

Neither does AIBU, the 'vote ' is for whether the OP is being unreasonable or not, not to do a poll.

I don't have a 12- 15 year old but if I did I would want them to be vaccinated.

I must not have read the terms and conditions correctly when pressing the "add vote" button

I have mainly let them decide-whilst secretly hoping they would want the jab. They have been told the pros and cons, risks and benefits. DS is 15 and DD 13. Youngest is 11 so perhaps next year for him. They all want the jab. They missed out so much school last year with bubbles bursting close contacts etc. I think they just want to get on with life as normal as they can now. Still wearing face masks but they are in the minority at their school. The jab will be an added layer of protection for them.

Yes most definitely

@Ruralbliss

MMR is given to both boy and girl infants for the greater good of it was purely for the individual the boys would not get rubella and the girls would not have mumps...

I'm confused.. why would girls not have the mumps vaccine?