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Poll - will you be letting your 12-15 DC be vaccinated

110 replies

Shitfuckcommaetc · 15/09/2021 12:47

YABU - no
YANBU - yes

OP posts:
TeenMinusTests · 15/09/2021 15:04

My 16yo has had it.
If she were 15 she would have been having it too.

On purely Covid grounds it seems finely balanced for this age group. However when you add in the Educational/MH issues of missing schooling etc (which DD has been personally impacted by) to me it comes down on the side of vaccinating.

millymollymoomoo · 15/09/2021 15:12

Official stats state risk of hospitalisation through covid 2 per million in this age group
Risk of being hospitalised DUE to vaccination 12-34 per million
Therefore rush’s outweigh benefits statistically

scoobiedoobiedoo · 15/09/2021 15:40

I live in Germany my 13 year old daughter is double vaccinated, we got an appointment as soon as it was announced they were vaccinating her age group, it was her choice.

SoNotRainbowRhythms · 15/09/2021 15:41

DS is almost 11. He wants to have the vaccine. I hadnt even considered asking him since its not time yet but hes said a few times he wants it.

HurryUpAndWait23 · 15/09/2021 15:42

We need to wait.

The myocarditis in boys is putting me off.

Shitfuckcommaetc · 15/09/2021 15:43

@DressBitch

YABU to use AIBU instead of the coronavirus topic
The coronavirus topic doesn't have a voting option 🤷🏼‍♂️
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AryaStarkWolf · 15/09/2021 15:43

My youngest is 17 and has been vaccinated. I would have let him be vaccinated if he was 15 though yeah

RubyFakeLips · 15/09/2021 15:44

Yes, they want it and I feel the risks are minimal. Day to day life is much riskier for them as an example.

Both boys. My eldest two have already had it as adults. one had the AZ version back in February as vulnerable with asthma.

edwinbear · 15/09/2021 15:51

@SparklyLeprechaun a recent U.S. study has suggested the risk of myocarditis in boys aged 12-15 after the 2nd dose of the vaccine is 162 cases per million, as opposed to 13 per million in girls. I will caveat this by saying the paper has not yet been peer reviewed, and discusses risks after the 2nd dose, whereas in the U.K. they currently plan to give only one dose. However, for me, personally, there are too many unknowns/risks than benefits for my own DS.

www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n2251

Delatron · 15/09/2021 15:58

Did all the cases of myocarditis resolve? Not that it makes it ok but I think that’s important info.

I keep changing my mind. Have a healthy 12 year old in a small secondary where they had zero isolations last year. So no disruption to education. Therefore that argument doesn’t really hold up.

My parents and In-laws keep asking when he’s getting vaccinated though. Which is making me prickly. Until I asked them to look after him for a few nights later on on the year. And although it doesn’t stop transmission completely would it reduce potential risk to grandparents?
Especially if I’m asking them to do childcare.

So now I’m swaying towards getting him vaccinated.

millymollymoomoo · 15/09/2021 16:06

Recent scientific papers suggest transmission rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated people have no measurable difference

blameitonthecaffeine · 15/09/2021 16:06

Needaholiday - because of the (admittedly tiny) risk of myocarditis in boys. The risk is so tiny it's almost none existent with girls. No idea why the difference, though.

And of course, as others have said, it's ultimately their choice. If mine don't want it, I'm certainly not making them. I don't feel strongly enough either way. But the poll said would I let them so yes, I would.

edwinbear · 15/09/2021 16:10

From the article posted on the BMJ website yesterday.

They estimated that the rate of cardiac myocarditis after the second dose of the vaccine was 162.2 cases per million in healthy boys aged 12-15 years and 94.0 per million in those aged 16-17. For girls the rate was 13 per million in 12-15 year olds and 13.4 per million in 16-17 year olds. Nearly all (86%) of the boys affected needed some form of hospital care, the authors said. By comparison, at current infection rates the risk of a healthy adolescent being admitted to hospital within 120 days of infection in the US is estimated to be 44 per million.

Caveated again, to say the paper has not been peer reviewed and references data from second doses. But for DS's personal circumstances (elite athlete), the benefits to him, don't outweigh the risks. He wasn't especially impacted by school lockdowns/self isolation as he's at private school who ran and continue to run, a full, live, online timetable. His MH didn't particularly suffer. It's why I think in this age group, it's such a personal decision for families. His best friend is asthmatic, I would imagine he will be vaccinated, as for him, the benefits outweigh the risks.

MauvePinkRose · 15/09/2021 16:14

Yes, my son has had all his immunisations, @catelina

He has not had MMR yet as he is not a year old. I would opt for a single vaccine if it was available: it isn’t. Doesn’t mean I agree with it.

Loopielu · 15/09/2021 16:21

Both my teenagers, 14 & 16 will be having it. They want it and I support them.

My incredibly healthy 14 year old had Covid a couple of months ago and was very unwell, she was in hospital as a result and it took her weeks to get completely better. It's not something we want to experience again.

lockdownmadnessdotcom · 15/09/2021 16:25

This doesn't affect me as my son is older, but why is everyone so worried about giving walking talking teenagers a vaccine for one illness, when they are happy to have a whole cocktail injected into a 8 week old baby?

I think it is a much more scary thing to give your baby a whole mash-up of vaccines, than it is to give a teenager a vaccine for one illness after which they can tell you if they feel grotty.

Yes it's a new vaccine but the latest 6 in one is relatively new too - my son had a very different cocktail when he was young.

SaffyWall · 15/09/2021 16:27

Yes - I would let DS13 have the vaccination - on balance I feel the benefits outweigh the risks. He is keen to have it which, I think, makes the decision easier.

KobaniDaughters · 15/09/2021 16:39

Different country, my 12yo son was vaccinated in May

Everyone around us was vaccinating and our restrictions have been a lot tighter here than in the U.K. so it felt like if the kids were getting vaccinated that meant we could give them back some kind of social life again. Also our 9yo DD has asthma so her brother actually opted to get vaccinated as extra protection for her.

None of the other new things had come out then though so I don’t know if my decision would be different if we had to make it now.

Takingabreakagain · 15/09/2021 16:45

@blameitonthecaffeine

Yes.

Probably wouldn't if they were boys though.

@blameitonthecaffeine The side effects on boys does seem to have been publicised more in the news and I would be concerned too. But I've read several different threads on here where women have had problems with their periods after the jabs (some quite serious side effects). It has also been on the news too but they never seem to like to talk about 'women's problems' on there much. I'm concerned that at this stage we don't know what the long term effects with be on younger girls if they are vaccinated. For that reason neither of my DDs will be getting it.
trumpisagit · 15/09/2021 17:02

No - not for now. I have 2 boys in the age group and I feel it is unnecessary/too soon.

We are not anti-vax but I don't think there is enough benefit, and the risks are still unknown.

Rainbowsew · 15/09/2021 17:04

@blameitonthecaffeine

Yes.

Probably wouldn't if they were boys though.

Why not if they were boys?
Narutocrazyfox · 15/09/2021 17:07

100% no. Absolutely no chance.

poshme · 15/09/2021 17:12

It's tricky. My 2 teens have had covid recently, so I feel they have some natural protection/immunity. DS (14) isn't keen to have jab as he thinks that's 'enough' and I don't think I want to override his view.

Still haven't decided completely.

Takingabreakagain · 15/09/2021 17:18

I think it would be useful if the government offered an antibody test so parents and children could see if they are already immune. The decision would be more informed that way.

Rainbowsew · 15/09/2021 17:20

I see about the boys now. Mine are at the younger end of the range and I'm not vaccinating for the same reason they don't have the flu one (the flu vaccine is sometimes only 40-60% effective and whilst covid is more effective the risk of the illness isn't high.) It's a virus that mutates and changes all the time. It'll be a constant cocktail in their systems that don't benefit them. They don't currently mix with many people outside of home.

If they were older teens and wanted to make their own decision that would be fine by me but not yet.