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Artist selling drawings of my house

529 replies

TechGinny · 07/09/2021 12:43

I've just discovered that an artist local to the area is selling drawings of my property on her website. It's not easily viewed by the road, which means she would have had to enter the land to draw it.

I'm feeling quite annoyed about this, as she has never made contact to ask permission.

AIBU unreasonable to feel like this, and would you make contact to ask her to remove it from her website?

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Hdhdjejdj · 07/09/2021 18:56

You need to read your posts again @Onairjunkie.

Lifeisaminestrone · 07/09/2021 18:56

FWIW trespass is only a criminal offence if on railway or MOD land

Otherwise only entitlement is rights for damage.

Jemand · 07/09/2021 18:57

@EspressoDoubleShot

I see you’ve clarified the access query,artist has accessed your property without permission. She isn’t standing on pavement or gazing from adjacent window. She’s actually accessed your property. Yes I’d be really annoyed, it’s intrusive and for her commercial gain. She’s selling the image for profit.
But OP doesn't know that. There is every reason to believe the artist could have seen a photo, especially given that it's a listed property.
dottydodah · 07/09/2021 19:04

I must say Im surprised by some of these responses TBH. Surely gaining profit from painting a house that isnt yours is at least being a CF? I wouldnt be happy about it at all . If there is no legal route then maybe message he and tell her you are unhappy and see what she says?

bigbeatmanifesto · 07/09/2021 19:04

Is it not possible she just walked past saw it took a photo on her phone or camera and then went home to draw it?
Nowadays it's so much simpler to draw from reference It's much more likely she did that rather than camp out in your garden and life draw for hours on end without being noticed.
If she's drew plenty of buildings like you've said it seems she is wandering the area for inspiration and found your property inspiring enough to draw.

ManifestDestinee · 07/09/2021 19:09

@dottydodah

I must say Im surprised by some of these responses TBH. Surely gaining profit from painting a house that isnt yours is at least being a CF? I wouldnt be happy about it at all . If there is no legal route then maybe message he and tell her you are unhappy and see what she says?
No. Anyone can paint anything they like. What would you hope to gain by saying you're unhappy? Why would that matter?
Namechangedforthreadbackafter · 07/09/2021 19:10

"I’m quite happy here. It’s amazing how quickly people clear up their shit and fuck off when you turn up on a quad with with a shotgun and two large dogs. grin"

Sounds pretty dramatic even if you think no 'force' the police may assume you are threatening with the gun. Even though they are in the wrong the gun is a bit unnecessary, hopefully someone will report and gun licence reviewed.

lottiegarbanzo · 07/09/2021 19:21

I'm really surprised at how many people don't appear to understand that 'things that make me happy' are not the same thing as 'things that are legal' or 'things that are socially acceptable'.

So what if you wouldn't be happy about something? Those who love you most might seek to avoid doing it. The rest of society though... And don't forget that 'things that make you happy' and 'things that make someone else happy' can be different, even opposite things.

prettyteapotsplease · 07/09/2021 19:23

Is your house unique in some way which makes it definitely yours? Is it possible that another exists which looks very similar? Could an ancestor have agreed to a painting or a photo which is in the public domain from which the image could have been taken?

I'm trying to think of other ways as to how the artist could have
obtained the image - I like to be private and I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with it either OP.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 07/09/2021 19:26

”But OP doesn't know that. There is every reason to believe the artist could have seen a photo, especially given that it's a listed property.”

@Jemand, the OP has said that she has searched the internet extensively, using a variety of different search terms, and has failed to find any images of her house. She is pretty sure that she would have found an image, if one was out there.

But you may be right, and when she asks the artist, she’ll be told that they used a photo from a book she hasn’t seen, or some obscure corner of the internet, and her mind will be set at rest about the invasion of her privacy.

From what she’s said, I would be surprised if the artist has found a picture - on the balance of probabilities, I’d say she must have come into @TechGinny‘s garden to take the photos she used - and I can understand why she feels so uncomfortable about that.

Etinox · 07/09/2021 19:27
Flowers I can see why you’re unsettled @TechGinny How did you find out about the picture?
Peppapigforlife · 07/09/2021 19:28

İ mean when she trespassed would she obviously have known she was trespassing or would it be easy for her to think she was just in the countryside on public land? İt doesn't sound like she has trespassed to cause harm, İ would take it as a compliment and just let her know very politely that you feel uncomfortable with strangers on the land for future reference.

Onairjunkie · 07/09/2021 19:33

@Namechangedforthreadbackafter

"I’m quite happy here. It’s amazing how quickly people clear up their shit and fuck off when you turn up on a quad with with a shotgun and two large dogs. grin"

Sounds pretty dramatic even if you think no 'force' the police may assume you are threatening with the gun. Even though they are in the wrong the gun is a bit unnecessary, hopefully someone will report and gun licence reviewed.

We are all licensed for shotguns on the farm. Quite often the lads will have them with them in case they’re necessary or if they’re having a shoot. I personally only use mine to shoot clays. They laugh at me for it.

If I’m out on the quad (easiest and nippiest way to cover swathes of land) then the dogs will always be with me. Sometimes running, often sitting on the back and hanging on.

So if I’m called by one of the lads to say that there’s a family who’ve rocked up in a camper in the corner of a field that’s been prepped for sowing, or worse, newly sown, then I will ride over there to deal with it. Often with a shotgun cabinet on the back, and two large dogs for company, because they’re always there. The mere presence of these things and beings is often enough to round people up. Nearly everyone knows they shouldn’t be there but did not anticipate being caught on rolling downs fields. They forget we visit every corner of our land because it’s our livelihoods. Some simply didn’t realise, they’re the ones I don’t mind. An innocent mistake. Plenty however, challenge me. Many are rude and aggressive.

Farming is not a money-making enterprise. I rewilded an enormous patch of my land this year for the wildlife, because I couldn’t make any money on it anyway. It costs me vast quantities to keep my little tiny enterprise going, my animals fed, my staff employed.

I am not sitting on a gold throne, with binoculars trained on my fields, waiting to pick off innocent roaming visitors with a gold-plated shotgun as some on here would like to believe.

Onairjunkie · 07/09/2021 19:37

Also, I don’t believe for one second that there’s anyone on here who’s having a pop, who would be happy to wake up and find someone meandering around your garden having a jolly good look. Or worse, leaving shard of metal and broken glass for your pets and kids to walk on. The size of the land is irrelevant, the value of the house is irrelevant, it’s the principle.

EspressoDoubleShot · 07/09/2021 19:39

I agree @Onairjunkie some people are being contrary

Sentedcandels · 07/09/2021 19:41

I’m sorry if this has already been asked but how are you 100% sure it’s your house?

Hdhdjejdj · 07/09/2021 19:42

Some people just don’t think it’s a big deal.

In any event we’re addressing the OP who hasn’t suggested the painter has left glass on her land or rocked up in a camper van or caused any damage to her land whatsoever.

EspressoDoubleShot · 07/09/2021 19:42

Op lives in a distinctive period home not a standard terrace or semi

HeronLanyon · 07/09/2021 19:43

I agree I’d be furious if a stranger popped into my garden to start taking photos. If I saw them I’d probably phone 111 (unless that is NHS) actually my safer neighbourhood team to see if this sounded dodgy /whether burglaries going on locally etc.

SunShinesBrightly · 07/09/2021 19:46

I find it hard to believe that a house 100+ years old has been completely hidden from public view until now. If it an interesting building with an interesting history most likely got the image from countless local photographs in circulation.

JellyRobin · 07/09/2021 19:47

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Sentedcandels · 07/09/2021 19:57

@EspressoDoubleShot

Op lives in a distinctive period home not a standard terrace or semi
Thank you :).

I would be uncomfortable with it, OP. I would send the artist the message that PP posted

TractorAndHeadphones · 07/09/2021 20:07

@Onairjunkie say it louder for the people in the back!
Farmers work so hard for a pittance.
People are deluded if they think that wasting their time chasing people away with guns is something farmers do for fun. You have better things to spend time on!

TractorAndHeadphones · 07/09/2021 20:09

@SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius

”But OP doesn't know that. There is every reason to believe the artist could have seen a photo, especially given that it's a listed property.”

@Jemand, the OP has said that she has searched the internet extensively, using a variety of different search terms, and has failed to find any images of her house. She is pretty sure that she would have found an image, if one was out there.

But you may be right, and when she asks the artist, she’ll be told that they used a photo from a book she hasn’t seen, or some obscure corner of the internet, and her mind will be set at rest about the invasion of her privacy.

From what she’s said, I would be surprised if the artist has found a picture - on the balance of probabilities, I’d say she must have come into @TechGinny‘s garden to take the photos she used - and I can understand why she feels so uncomfortable about that.

It could be a private photo though - not everything’s on the internet. OP isn’t U to feel uncomfortable about the potential invasion of privacy but a quick friendly email /phone call to artist shouldn’t go amiss.
Cailleach1 · 07/09/2021 20:10

I don't think it has been established that the artist trespassed on the property? That is speculation, isn't it?

If that is what has happened, it would make anyone uneasy. However, it may not have happened.

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