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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To not want my family at my wedding?

41 replies

WeddingDilemma01 · 06/09/2021 12:07

Sorry, this is a long one! I’ll try and keep it brief. It’s my first post too. I’ve seen some really helpful advice on here so, thought I would see if it helps this situation.

Basically, I’m getting married soon to my lovely DP and my s was meant to be maid of honor and my niece a flower girl. I don’t want my S there due to the issues below and my F is forcing it a lot as he can usually make me let my sister walk all over me (which is my fault too).

I also don’t really want my F there. I just don’t know if I am doing the right thing by telling them not to come? What would I say to family? How could I tell them?

Short(ish) story:
My S is a narcissist. My F enabled her as he felt guilty for our abusive upbringing and she milks it as much as she can. He goes back time and time again no matter what and lives with her now. She treats everyone like a piece of shit to be blunt and my F lets her get away with it. He brought me up to ignore it, let her do what she wants. My F did not help. He always put me down and my S did as well, she enjoyed it a lot. My F later admitted it was because he didn’t want me to have a boyfriend and thought having no confidence would do that. He was surprised my confidence was still low later on in life. He does try now and is better than he was, but always puts my S first and isn’t really interested in me, my DS or my life. The latest outburst from my S was a month ago and it was pretty bad. I thought my F was finally going to leave and he didn’t. ‘She needs him too much’ and she will get help. I offered him a place to stay and was going to get him a really nice apartment across the road. My S has since started seeing a counsellor but says it’s only stress doing this all and my F continues the same old pattern – she explodes, calms down but does not apologies or get help (usually), and he continues it too. She did see a counsellor in the past and they said she had narcissistic personally disorder apparently. She then stopped seeing them.

I have always allowed my sister to get away with everything from hitting to name calling. I want that to stop now. I want to set a good example for my DS.

I am sick of the way my S treats everyone and how my F downplays it. I have not spoken to her since her outburst and she keeps texting to usually guilt trip me. The anger will come next along with name calling. I have and will not replied.

My F has went back to his usual ‘you s is doing so well’. I said I was still upset the pattern of abuse was still happening. He told me she needs to be my maid of honour and has said the following - ‘his life will be hell of I don’t’, ‘what??, she won’t be at the wedding??. No, I can’t have that’ and then ‘ all the family will be there and we need to be united’

He does not care it is my day. I also tried to tell him about my DS going to nursery and I was excited but he cut my off and told me my niece has been going for months. It really made no sense how little he cared. I tried to tell him that I am talking about my DS but he cut me off again and started speaking about DN. This has made me not even want me F there. A part of me feels that he has made his bed and it shouldn’t mean I should be abused again and again.

Long story

So, I have always had a difficult relationship with my ‘D’S and ‘D’F. My M died when I was 11/S was 15. She was an abusive alcoholic. My F was also a drinker. I remember always taking myself to school, the house was disgusting, my M would be out drunk and my F would be in the house usually staggering around. One time I remember him trying to cook but having to take the frying pan from him as I was worried he’d burn the house down. I mainly had those tins of beans and cocktail sausages for dinner (I loved them though, but not a regular meal). I also had head lice for months and months. My dad would not treat it until the head teacher wanted to report him to SS. I was so humiliated by it at the time and I was only about 10 or 11. I have copy of a police report from when my mother was arrested drunk in the street with myself and my S (I was 9). I remember the police officer buying me chocolate from the vending machine and I was so happy with a little treat. My final memory of my M is when she was in rehab. I got the bus from primary school and was so excited to see her, I thought she was doing so well! She seemed different this day however and she rushed out when I came. I followed her to the shops. She ran straight in and got a bottle of vodka. I begged her not to buy it. She did it anyway and tried to stuff it down my top to hide from the staff in her building. I ran away screaming. I later went back to the building she was in and stayed down stairs. She asked me to come up and I refused, I knew then she had made her choice. I could have told someone and I didn’t. She collapsed, ambulance took her to hospital, she went into a coma and then died a few weeks later.

I have now completely forgiven my M. I know she had a hard life and she struggled with the memories. I could see the shame she had looking at me and everything she did piling up on her. I know she drank so she didn’t have to face it. I understand and it’s okay.

My life after my M died only got worse and worse. I felt that if I couldn’t even be loved by my M, no one could ever love me. My F did quit drinking but never re-assured me or made me feel loved. My S was so damaged by all the abuse from my mother that she struggled to live a normal life. She was slowly turning into my M. She was jealous when I had any friends, put me down constantly, easily turn to anger and lash out time and time again. She grew up being able to get away with it all as my F just wanted to keep the peace no matter what. She also guilt tripped him constantly. They were close in my teenage years and always made sure it was then against me.

The cycle is – something small happens that would not bother anyone else, S flips and usually turns violent (the tantrums would last for days!) and then it would quieten down. She never has apologized once to me for anything she did and my F would tell me over and over to forget it. Something else would happen a few weeks later and the cycle continues!

A few examples – She would make me leave college and then go to her work and wait for sometimes hours until she finished before I could go home with her even though college was 20 mins bus ride from home max. Once I was late and my dad was taken into hospital (I didn’t know this of course so followed the usual routine of going to her work). She stormed out of the office and shoved me as hard as she could in front of her co-workers. They stared in shock. She shoved me over once at the cinema and spilled my popcorn for absolutely no reason, I said and did nothing.
She would get turned down for something in life and it would lead to days of screaming, rolling on the floor, smashing things and hitting. If I ever retaliating (which I did as I was only around 14/15 and she was almost 20 when it was at my worst), I was the one to blame.
She would always randomly slap me and run away.

My F and S always said something was wrong with me. If I hummed a song, they would look in disgust and said I couldn’t sing, told me I smelled, I looked like a tramp, my spots were terrible, how ugly I was. My confidence was so low. My F later admitted he did it so I wouldn’t get a boyfriend. It was so nasty. I took me years to realize I wasn’t some hideous creature.

I started acting out. All the negativity made me give up trying. I was tired of being beaten down every day. They made me go to counselling and told the GP ‘ something is wrong with her’. I watched my sister act erratically every day and would hide from her instead of giving in and fighting back like I wanted too. When counselling did help, they made me stop. I said it was making me happy so my dad stopped it. He always did that when I found something made me happy.

I have helped my sister a lot with money over the years as well. Lots of which I didn’t get back. She would call crying and begging and then once she had it, back to normal and would never mention it again or say thanks.

She is also convinced she always has cancer. She has done this three times now. She says she has a lump (never lets you see it), screams she is going to die and your not welcome to come to her funeral, hit, cry and then say it was because of me, my f or her DP the latest time and said he was trying to kill her as he didn’t have private health care. I paid for an appointment and when it came back all clear, she acted normally again. No sorry or thank you.

I love my DN and it also enrages me that my F and my BIL are allowing this to happen in front of DN. It is a separate issue I know. I am happy see is at school so a closer eye can be kept on her. If anything else happens, I am going to SS.

My F has went back to his usual ‘you s is doing so well’. I said I was still upset the pattern of abuse was still happening. He told me she needs to be my maid of honour and has said the following - ‘his life will be hell of I don’t’, ‘what??, she won’t be at the wedding??. No, I can’t have that’ and then ‘ all the family will be there and we need to be united’

He does not care it is my day. I also tried to tell him about my DS going to nursery and I was excited but he cut my off and told me my niece has been going for months. It really made no sense how little he cared. I tried to tell him that I am talking about my DS but he cut me off again and started speaking about DN. This has made me not even want me F there. A part of me feels that he has made his bed and it shouldn’t mean I should be abused again and again.

So AIBU – they are family and should be at the wedding
AINBU- family is not a pass for treating people like this and she needs to learn actions have consequences.

Thank you for reading this far!

OP posts:
RusholmeRuffian · 06/09/2021 12:23

I wouldn't have these people in my life, let alone at my wedding.

CaveMum · 06/09/2021 12:29

Agree 100% with @RusholmeRuffian. Why are these people in your life at all? They do nothing but abuse you and treat you like dirt. The fact they are family means nothing, "family" doesn't give them the right to treat you this way. I just want to give you a big hug.

Cut them off, they've made their choices in life now you get to make yours. Get married, think about moving away from them and never see them again. I promise you that your life will be so much better.

GemmaRuby · 06/09/2021 12:29

I only read the short version and skim read the long version, sorry.
But your are definitely not being unreasonable. Please don’t let them be at your wedding and ruin it for you.
It definitely doesn’t sound as though having your sister as maid of honour is what you want, and if she is there after being demoted I’m sure she will make it plain to everyone just how unhappy she is about it.

You sound like you have done really well considering what a tough start you had. They’ve been dragging you down for too long, don’t let them do it at your wedding.

TurquoiseDragon · 06/09/2021 12:35

You don't seem to be getting any benefit from a relationship with these people. They won't improve, and you won't get any acknowledgement from them about the wsy you have/are still being treated.

Ditch the lot of them. They don't need to be at your wedding, or even in your life.

Lavenderpillow · 06/09/2021 12:39

Cut them all out of your life. I went through similar and cut my entire family off, and now I feel so much more at peace and the distance has allowed me to process what I went through.

Nothing good will ever come from keeping them in your life.

It’s time to look after yourself now and move on ❤️

SantaIsReal · 06/09/2021 12:40

Totally agree with PP

Just because you share DNA does not mean you have to have these people in your or your DS life!
Stop pandering to them both and do what is best for you! It is hard yes but so worth it in the long run!

SoundBar · 06/09/2021 12:40

There's no law that says you have to continue engaging with these people. Go no contact. Stop giving them information about your life. It's none of their business.

Whatifitallgoesright · 06/09/2021 12:40

You do not have to do anything they tell you. I would like to tell them to fuck off for you. You're not obligated to have people in your life who make you feel shit, family or not.

When is your wedding?

Merryoldgoat · 06/09/2021 12:43

These people need to be cut from your life. For good. They are toxic.

lockdownalli · 06/09/2021 12:43

Cut them all off - utter bastards

Twitchynose · 06/09/2021 12:45

Ditch them, what happiness do they bring into your life? My husband didn’t even tell his family that he was getting married let alone invite them to the wedding. Totally respected his views.

TurtleCavalryIsSeriousShit · 06/09/2021 12:51

You need to find the strength to cut them out and keep them out of your life!

You DO NOT deserve this. They have both made their beds and they can sleep in them. You need to make the choice; are you going to live like this for the rest of your life? Or are you going to change it and have a happy life?

It's not easy, but with time it will get easier. Please, you deserve so much more than them. Good luck!

MouseInCatsClaws · 06/09/2021 12:53

Alert social services to the environment your niece is being raised in. And work towards cutting contact with these people. Go back to counselling if you haven't already.
Sorry you have had to endure this. I hope happiness lies ahead for you and your family

Whoopy · 06/09/2021 13:26

The mistake you have made is not going no contact with these 2 horrible creatures before now! You do not need them in your life. They do not add anything to your life, they just take away from your life. Going forward please go no contact, but do get in touch with SS so they are aware of the situation your your poor niece is in!

It would worry me that they will turn up at your wedding anyway, so they can spoil it for you, and accuse you of being an awful person for not inviting them. I would ensure that there are some large men (sorry if I’m being sexist) at your wedding, who are aware that they are not to be allowed entry and who will stop them from coming into the ceremony / reception if necessary!

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 06/09/2021 14:06

I agree with pps. Have nothing more to do with them, wedding or otherwise.

You won’t be able to have Dn as a flower girl but that’s the least of your worries.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 06/09/2021 14:07

Go up to Scotland with a few close friends is what I’d do.

BudrosBudrosGalli · 06/09/2021 14:14

I would go completely no contact with that pair. It will improve your life at least tenfold!

Glssr195726113493 · 06/09/2021 14:16

Cut them out of your life, let alone your guest list.

Stop the cycle yourself by removing their opportunity to make you a victim. You’ve done so well to get this far.

LaBellina · 06/09/2021 14:16

I only read the short version.

They sound draining, selfish, toxic and full of negative energy.

I would tell them not to come to the wedding.

VinylCafe · 06/09/2021 14:22

I'm sorry this happened to you. I think you shouldn't invite them to your wedding, they'll only ruin it. I also think you should change the date or venue of your wedding so they can't turn up and ruin it.

Fl0w3ry · 06/09/2021 14:31

They have ruined enough of your life, do not let them have an opportunity to ruin your wedding day too.
Cut them all off and get the best revenge by building a great, happy life for yourself.

Notaroadrunner · 06/09/2021 14:36

Cut them out of your life. They are no good for you. Do not have them at your wedding. Get married, start afresh with a new life for your very own little family unit and leave those assholes in the past.

LookItsMeAgain · 06/09/2021 15:03

One word - ELOPE!

Don't have anyone at your wedding that you don't want there.
I'd also consider establishing much much firmer boundaries and ones that you have no issue with enforcing and take it from there. Your F sounds like a bully to be honest.

EKGEMS · 06/09/2021 15:28

I really agree with the previous posters that you should go no contact with them-it's drastic and may seem impossible to you right now but I think is necessary. You should change your phone number or perhaps get a second one and use the new number. I'd even consider moving but that can be expensive and impractical. Also consider therapy to work on your abusive childhood and help enforce your personal boundaries. Best of luck

Graphista · 06/09/2021 15:54

Just because you are related to someone doesn't mean you have to have them in your life.

I have a very similar story to your own.

I have been nc with my sister now for several years and my life is so much easier, so much calmer since.

These people add nothing positive whatsoever to your life, they care nothing for you or your child and quite honestly keeping them in your life risks them treating your child similarly.

Far far better you cut them right off now and make your impending marriage a completely fresh start.

I know it feels scary but honestly once you've done it and you're a wee while into the new life you'll have you'll wonder why you didn't do it years ago!

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