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NDN note about party noise

55 replies

MonicaPhoebe · 05/09/2021 15:23

Our next door neighbours are noisy. They love loud music and they generally just scream and shout and bang a lot. They ruined our already-ruined Christmas day last year with a party so loud we couldn't eat our xmas dinner, which led to DH having to bang on their door and beg them to turn it down.

Since they have now gotten into the habit of putting a note through the door on the morning of their bbq/party to warn us that it's happening. I am grateful for this as noise is easier to deal with when you are warned about it and I absolutely know that any warning is better than no warning at all.

But they only ever warn is when they know they are going to be loud. It is like they're saying "well we've given you a warning so now we can be as loud as we want and you cant say anything"

And by the time they have warned us on the morning-of, I may already have plans at home which I'll now have to cancel because it won't be possible to do anything in our house or garden unless we want to shout over their music because its so loud.

For example yesterday we had plans for my sister to come round for lunch. I'd spent money on ingredients and then spent the morning preparing everything. And then we get a note through the door at 11am that they are having a "bbq" so will be "a bit noisy". What they actually meant was they were going to play music in their garden full blast on a huge speaker for hours on end, so loud that us and the 6 other houses who surround them wont be able to use their garden. Our gardens are tiny, they might as well of had there bbq in my house, it would have made no difference. And it was just as loud inside so absolutely no chance we could host someone for lunch. So we had to change our plans and go out to eat instead.

I'm sick of it tbqh and this isn't the first time it has happened either.

Why is it always my plans that have to get ruined? I am a considerate neighbour, but I am so on edge whenever I have guests coming and spend the whole day anxious waiting for noise.

I fully expect give and take when living in suburbia and expect noise & I don't ask for silence and I expect to hear music. But I can honestly say I have never played music so loud it would literally stop my neighbours from using their home. Yes we've had bbqs with music, but the music is 'background music' and low enough for people to talk over. Even if we had a bbq planned yesterday I would of had to cancel it as you just can't compete with their music.

But if I let them know in advance I was having plans for a family birthday dinner and they had planned a "bbq" on the same day, they wouldn't rearrange it. It would just be "tough luck" for me because their plans are loud enough to trump mine and I'd have to rearrange once again, IYSWIM.

AIBU in thinking that a 'warning note' doesn't give you free reign to be an inconsiderate neighbour?

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PearlclutchersInc · 05/09/2021 15:26

Undoubtedly someone will be along shortly to tell you that people can do what they want and you cant expect consideration in this day and age Hmm

FatAnkles · 05/09/2021 15:28

Ring your local council/environmental health department and report. Keep a diary of all instances, dates, times, types of noise, how it affects you, can you watch TV over the noise, and how long it goes on for. Keep the diary as evidence. Make is available to the council so they can bring a court action against your neighbours. Unfortunately it's a civil matter not a criminal one and you have to put in a fair bit of legwork.

vodkaredbullgirl · 05/09/2021 15:28

At least you get a note, my NDN don't seem to give a shit. They making a hell of a noise right now, good job I wasn't trying to sleep (work nights)

BrilliantBetty · 05/09/2021 15:29

Of course it doesn't.
As you say, you are not asking for silence.
You don't want to frequently have your home invaded by other people's excessive noise.

How frequent are we talking?

Overloadedunappreciated · 05/09/2021 15:30

YANBU! I think you may have to go round at a time when they're not being "a bit noisy" and say that whilst you appreciate them giving you notice and you understand they will make some noise, that the level is unacceptable as its preventing you not only from using your garden but your Home too.

Then if that doesn't work, noise complaint to the council unfortunately

TheLovelinessOfDemons · 05/09/2021 15:36

Where we used to live when DD 13 was a baby, the upstairs and next-door neighbour (flats, we each had 2 levels) played music so loud it sounded like normal level if I'd been playing it, at 11pm, and woke DD up. I had to bang on his door with a dustbin lid to get his attention. Luckily, that never happened again.

MoiraRose4 · 05/09/2021 15:40

Could you speak to them and ask for more notice if they are planning a party. You can then explain that you have had to cancel plans on the day as their parties are so loud it’s prevents you from going ahead. This may make them think twice about the volume, or at least give you more warning. My mum’s neighbours (who admittedly don’t sound as bad as yours) give her at least a weeks notice as the previous owners used to go and stay elsewhere overnight as they couldn’t sleep when there was a party.

serialname · 05/09/2021 15:47

Why does noise next door stop you from having friends / family round?

Complain about their unreasonable noise, but don't stop living your own life in the meantime

GreenTortoise · 05/09/2021 15:51

You need to tell them they need to keep it down. That's ridiculous having music that loud it's just bloody inconsiderate!

elbea · 05/09/2021 15:54

I wish my neighbours would give us a note, they have parties at random intervals playing reggae music through a sound system. We have tiny gardens so a normal speaker would be fine. To make it worst the neighbours MC and give shout outs to their own guests in the postage stamp sized garden. It’s hell on earth.

HappyBirthdayMrPresident · 05/09/2021 15:54

You say it backs out onto other neighbours? Have you spoken to them to try and put in multiple complaints?

Mushypeasandchipstogo · 05/09/2021 15:59

Personally I would ask them again politely, then if no success I would gather other neighbours together to report to environmental health. Meanwhile, keep records of exact times that the noise is unacceptable. Unfortunately, some people just cannot help being selfish twats!

Inextremis · 05/09/2021 16:00

Could you start putting notes through their door asking them to be quiet when you have something planned in your house? Maybe you could have a shared Google calendar where you can book 'quiet' days and they can give you prior notice of their planned 'loud' days? I know that, in an ideal world, they should never make so much noise that you can't enjoy your home or garden, but it's not an ideal world, so maybe something like this would help keep the peace (not to mention build evidence of how often they make intolerable noise!).

Or move.

FunTimes2020 · 05/09/2021 16:04

@serialname

Why does noise next door stop you from having friends / family round?

Complain about their unreasonable noise, but don't stop living your own life in the meantime

Come on now, read the OP
TractorAndHeadphones · 05/09/2021 16:09

@MonicaPhoebe

Our next door neighbours are noisy. They love loud music and they generally just scream and shout and bang a lot. They ruined our already-ruined Christmas day last year with a party so loud we couldn't eat our xmas dinner, which led to DH having to bang on their door and beg them to turn it down.

Since they have now gotten into the habit of putting a note through the door on the morning of their bbq/party to warn us that it's happening. I am grateful for this as noise is easier to deal with when you are warned about it and I absolutely know that any warning is better than no warning at all.

But they only ever warn is when they know they are going to be loud. It is like they're saying "well we've given you a warning so now we can be as loud as we want and you cant say anything"

And by the time they have warned us on the morning-of, I may already have plans at home which I'll now have to cancel because it won't be possible to do anything in our house or garden unless we want to shout over their music because its so loud.

For example yesterday we had plans for my sister to come round for lunch. I'd spent money on ingredients and then spent the morning preparing everything. And then we get a note through the door at 11am that they are having a "bbq" so will be "a bit noisy". What they actually meant was they were going to play music in their garden full blast on a huge speaker for hours on end, so loud that us and the 6 other houses who surround them wont be able to use their garden. Our gardens are tiny, they might as well of had there bbq in my house, it would have made no difference. And it was just as loud inside so absolutely no chance we could host someone for lunch. So we had to change our plans and go out to eat instead.

I'm sick of it tbqh and this isn't the first time it has happened either.

Why is it always my plans that have to get ruined? I am a considerate neighbour, but I am so on edge whenever I have guests coming and spend the whole day anxious waiting for noise.

I fully expect give and take when living in suburbia and expect noise & I don't ask for silence and I expect to hear music. But I can honestly say I have never played music so loud it would literally stop my neighbours from using their home. Yes we've had bbqs with music, but the music is 'background music' and low enough for people to talk over. Even if we had a bbq planned yesterday I would of had to cancel it as you just can't compete with their music.

But if I let them know in advance I was having plans for a family birthday dinner and they had planned a "bbq" on the same day, they wouldn't rearrange it. It would just be "tough luck" for me because their plans are loud enough to trump mine and I'd have to rearrange once again, IYSWIM.

AIBU in thinking that a 'warning note' doesn't give you free reign to be an inconsiderate neighbour?

YANBU. If they want to make that level of noise they should have a bungalow. Or rent somewhere. Unless it's a one-off like a wedding. Some houses are not suitable for loud parties and if people can't afford it they shouldn't do it!
Sommernacht89 · 05/09/2021 16:13

Have a good time with loud music at 6am the following day.

ChargingBuck · 05/09/2021 16:20

What they actually meant was they were going to play music in their garden full blast on a huge speaker for hours on end, so loud that us and the 6 other houses who surround them wont be able to use their garden.

How do the other neighbours feel about this lot?
If they agree with you, it would be worth putting a return note through the door, pointing out exactly what you've told us, above. A note that makes it very clear that it's from all 6 neighbours.

The note probably won't change their behaviour, but it, along with a united front, will make it much harder for the noise nuisances to defend themselves from Environmental Health when you eventually bow to the inevitable & complain to the council.

It's miserable being subjected to other people's row like this. So put all your frustration & rage into building an invincible Gang Of Six with your neighbours, & start going down the official complaint pathways.

iklboo · 05/09/2021 16:23

YABVU!! How dare your ears not be happy! They're giving you free entertainment. You should be grateful!

Seriously, it isn't on. They're taking the piss thinking a note gives them carte blanche to make as much noise as they like. Definitely chat with your other neighbours.

Smartphonetoomuchoo · 05/09/2021 16:35

I'd get up early the next day, give the kids a can of coca cola from breakfast and lock them in the garden. 6 am should do it Wink

ohthatbloodycat · 05/09/2021 16:44

They're out of order, OP, and YANBU Thanks
The note shouldn't give them carte blanche to be as shitty as they damn well like!

ohthatbloodycat · 05/09/2021 16:46

@vodkaredbullgirl

At least you get a note, my NDN don't seem to give a shit. They making a hell of a noise right now, good job I wasn't trying to sleep (work nights)
They're going to be as noisy and inconsiderate as they want, regardless of the note. Giving the OP warning doesn't make it ok!
TheOccupier · 05/09/2021 16:49

If they give you warning can you line up the council to come round and record the noise?

Wouldlovetobeinthesun · 05/09/2021 16:53

@FatAnkles

Ring your local council/environmental health department and report. Keep a diary of all instances, dates, times, types of noise, how it affects you, can you watch TV over the noise, and how long it goes on for. Keep the diary as evidence. Make is available to the council so they can bring a court action against your neighbours. Unfortunately it's a civil matter not a criminal one and you have to put in a fair bit of legwork.
Only do this if you're prepared for it to come up in a search and you're willing to declare it if you sell your house. We had the same issue without any notice from them and it broke me. We contacted a lawyer who told us the above. As we were consider moving due to them, we felt we couldn't take the risk of having to declare it. I hope it gets better for you. Thankfully ours are now very quiet as the kids have gone to uni.
takehomepay · 05/09/2021 17:05

Start playing really loud music when they've gone to bed. They are cunts.

tigger1001 · 05/09/2021 17:07

I think you have been more than tolerant and next time just contact the police and council.