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NDN note about party noise

55 replies

MonicaPhoebe · 05/09/2021 15:23

Our next door neighbours are noisy. They love loud music and they generally just scream and shout and bang a lot. They ruined our already-ruined Christmas day last year with a party so loud we couldn't eat our xmas dinner, which led to DH having to bang on their door and beg them to turn it down.

Since they have now gotten into the habit of putting a note through the door on the morning of their bbq/party to warn us that it's happening. I am grateful for this as noise is easier to deal with when you are warned about it and I absolutely know that any warning is better than no warning at all.

But they only ever warn is when they know they are going to be loud. It is like they're saying "well we've given you a warning so now we can be as loud as we want and you cant say anything"

And by the time they have warned us on the morning-of, I may already have plans at home which I'll now have to cancel because it won't be possible to do anything in our house or garden unless we want to shout over their music because its so loud.

For example yesterday we had plans for my sister to come round for lunch. I'd spent money on ingredients and then spent the morning preparing everything. And then we get a note through the door at 11am that they are having a "bbq" so will be "a bit noisy". What they actually meant was they were going to play music in their garden full blast on a huge speaker for hours on end, so loud that us and the 6 other houses who surround them wont be able to use their garden. Our gardens are tiny, they might as well of had there bbq in my house, it would have made no difference. And it was just as loud inside so absolutely no chance we could host someone for lunch. So we had to change our plans and go out to eat instead.

I'm sick of it tbqh and this isn't the first time it has happened either.

Why is it always my plans that have to get ruined? I am a considerate neighbour, but I am so on edge whenever I have guests coming and spend the whole day anxious waiting for noise.

I fully expect give and take when living in suburbia and expect noise & I don't ask for silence and I expect to hear music. But I can honestly say I have never played music so loud it would literally stop my neighbours from using their home. Yes we've had bbqs with music, but the music is 'background music' and low enough for people to talk over. Even if we had a bbq planned yesterday I would of had to cancel it as you just can't compete with their music.

But if I let them know in advance I was having plans for a family birthday dinner and they had planned a "bbq" on the same day, they wouldn't rearrange it. It would just be "tough luck" for me because their plans are loud enough to trump mine and I'd have to rearrange once again, IYSWIM.

AIBU in thinking that a 'warning note' doesn't give you free reign to be an inconsiderate neighbour?

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InFiveMins · 05/09/2021 17:09

Honestly, I'd move.

NotJuryDutyAgain · 05/09/2021 17:17

There was another thread about this issue recently. Someone put notes through to their neighbours warning that a loud party would be happening on X day until X hour (1 or 2am?).

It's definitely an attempt to silence you, imo. They believe or pretend to believe that if they've warned you, you'll be unable (or less likely) to complain about the noise.

Terribly selfish and un-neighbourly of them. Some people aren't fit to live near others.

vodkaredbullgirl · 05/09/2021 17:18

Why should op move?

pinkstripeycat · 05/09/2021 17:21

My neighbour keeps blocking my drive with her car (it’s a tiny car, she has a double drive but can’t park). I can just about squeeze my car off the drive if I go forward and back a couple of times. It’s annoying BUT after reading some of these nightmare neighbour posts I think myself lucky

IveGotASongThatllGetOnYNerves · 05/09/2021 17:21

Talk to your other neighbours and agree to all put your own music on full blast next time they have a BBQ. And every time until they start to be a bit more considerate.

Driftingblue · 05/09/2021 17:27

You have to give up the fiction that you have a good relationship with these neighbors. They are not good people and they have no consideration for you. The note is their excuse to behave poorly.

ChargingBuck · 05/09/2021 17:33

@pinkstripeycat

My neighbour keeps blocking my drive with her car (it’s a tiny car, she has a double drive but can’t park). I can just about squeeze my car off the drive if I go forward and back a couple of times. It’s annoying BUT after reading some of these nightmare neighbour posts I think myself lucky
Why are you going back & forth, which is a bother to you, but no skin off neighbour's nose?

She is causing you a problem. She won't stop causing it until you make it a bother for her too. Knock on her door every time, & make her move her badly parked car!
And every time you do, tell her to park more considerately next time.

Blinky21 · 05/09/2021 17:35

Somebody else's noise should never prevent you from using your own home and garden, this isn't normal behaviour from them and you are being too nice. I'd speak to them if you feel you can and explain how this is affecting you. If they don't listen, record each instance and report to your council's noise control team. Most councils will say that if the noise is infrequent then its not a statury nuisance but if it is frequent they will take action on your behalf

RVN123 · 05/09/2021 17:35

I really feel for you OP. We ended up moving a lot sooner than we would have because of twatish neighbours like yours. It was a living hell, happened most nights.
I find it very unfair that people are essentially held over a barrel in regards to neighbour disputes, with the threat of having to disclose these things. I understand that an ongoing neighbour dispute could potentially affect a house sale but at the same time, why should people be forced to live in fear of saying anything? It's precisely because people are afraid of confrontation and saying anything that these kind of people can continue doing what they do without regard for anyone but themselves.
I'm not excluding myself BTW, we did complain a few times and it only made matters worse, the music got louder, they started banging on the walls, intentional noise etc. SO glad and grateful we got out of that situation and now live in a detached house with lovely neighbours.
It's a shame but it seems like a lot of people are just arseholes. They have no respect or consideration, just do what they want and eff everyone else.
It's not as easy as just being able to move, most people can't just upsticks and leave at the drop of a hat.
See if you can get the council involved OP.

Uglylampshade · 05/09/2021 17:41

Wonder if we have the same neighbours.

Ours live on the next street over but the way the streets are arranged means they're not that far away. They have a loud gathering every single Sunday night. If it's not loud music it's people literally shouting WOOOOOO every 2-3 minutes.

I don't know how their next door neighbours put up with it. I'd have murdered them by now.

DowntrainTrain · 05/09/2021 17:50

We had our Easter Sunday lunch ruined by a horrid noisy little sod directly opposite doing ‘band practise’ in his living room with windows wide open…
My step-daughter went over and told him to turn it down, and just as he was giving her a load of verbal, she told him her Father was dying of cancer and in his last few weeks - so could he please just let her have some time with her DDad.
Thankfully he shut up immediately!
I actually opened a bottle of fizz to celebrate that household moving out, they were vile, noisy and inconsiderate.
Neighbours like these are the Devils armpits!

donquixotedelamancha · 05/09/2021 18:01

We've got dickheads like this. I got an app on my phone- from my house (10 houses away) they were noisier than my chainsaw when I'm next to it. I'd already tried speaking to them, as had the police, but they were cunts.

So I went round to all the neighbours between us and them, we agreed to put in a collective complaint to the council. They got wind of the complaint and pre-emptively stopped at a reasonable time and lowered the volume from then on.

LookAtMoiPloise · 05/09/2021 18:03

@takehomepay

Start playing really loud music when they've gone to bed. They are cunts.
I would absolutely do this
MonicaPhoebe · 05/09/2021 18:04

Grateful for the responses thank you everybody. Sorry for everyone else who is having to deal with selfish people Flowers

For the pp who said they are silencing us with their notes, I absolutely agree and DH and I have just had a discussion about it. He is someone who wants an easy life and hes always tried to make me see the notes as a good thing/step in the right direction etc. But I know they are doing it so we dont complain and they have power over us.

I have always sent a note back saying thank you for letting us know, I have kept this up through fear that if I don't respond they will stop warning us and I can't cope with the not knowing. So they must think I'm an absolute pushover but I don't know what is worse.

We put our mobile number and said please feel free to text us instead, in the hope that then we'd have their number should we need it and we could more informally be able to say, hiya its a bit loud could you turn it down. But they ignored it.

Though I think they won't care if we say it was too loud, when we knocked at xmas their response was something along the lines of "but we like loud music so why are you more important than us?" which tells you everything you need to know about their mentality around their noise affecting others!

I'm going to speak to the ndn on the other side of them this week too and see what he thinks, he has made a couple of small remarks about them before to me so I think he's had enough too

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GeorgiaGirl52 · 05/09/2021 18:30

I hope you saved all the notes. Proof in their own handwriting that they know the noise is unreasonably loud. Submit as evidence.

StoneofDestiny · 05/09/2021 18:52

Hideous shitty neighbours - no excuse.

MonicaPhoebe · 05/09/2021 19:21

I'm absolutely seething tbh and really glad I posted on here to confirm I'm not being U

People are just so unbelievably selfish it is unreal

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Eyesofdisarray · 05/09/2021 19:28

What about the other neighbours? They must be hearing it too.
Strength in numbers????

RuggerHug · 05/09/2021 19:30

Honestly I'd knock the next time you get a note and say 'No, we have plans for tonight in our garden made so you won't be able to tonight'. Smile and then report every time. Or, do you think they have hangovers? My DM once got a CD of badly sung hymns that she blared when they would have passed out the following morning.

GingerAndTheBiscuits · 05/09/2021 19:36

YABU to not have got in touch with environmental health/ASB team about them already. See if your local council used the Noise App and you can start logging the issue straight away

Sparklesocks · 05/09/2021 19:49

Neighbour noise is a spectrum. There’s a world of difference between having people over and your neighbours hearing the chatter/laughter and background music that comes with that, and just playing loud music on huge speakers all day long. Giving a heads up note doesn’t mean it’s fine to make as much noise as you like.

Living in a suburban area means you’ll hear neighbours and they’ll hear you. Sometimes there will be parties or gatherings and it’s just part and parcel of living near to other people. But that doesn’t mean you can take the piss with it and expect everyone not to mind.

BrendaBubbles · 05/09/2021 20:08

Its free rein btw

iklboo · 05/09/2021 20:22

Its free rein btw

There's always one.

tempchecked · 05/09/2021 20:36

As the noise is unbearable anyway, I'd be inclined to add to it by placing big speakers on my side playing something godawful and LOUD and leave it on for 24 hours when they least expect it, ie with ten minutes notice. Then leg it fast.

Or douse them with the hose.

Or get nice neighbours and you together and blast music from 7am all day on their self appointed "quiet" times.

Sorry that sounds vindictive, but sometimes revenge is a dish best served cold, and it has to be done. Do not be bullied.

If you have nice neighbours in agreement with you, what's the worst that can happen? And have cameras recording too. No point doing things by half.

takehomepay · 05/09/2021 20:40

@BrendaBubbles

Its free rein btw
So no advice, just a bitchplop?
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