To think this comparison is unfair and misleading?

[LemonMarshmallow]

A formula v breastfeeding visual I’ve just seen on fb.
2 rainbow bottles side by side detailing the components of both except on the formula side they’ve not included that formula (always) contains minerals too
Plus there are some things like probiotics, ogliosaccharides and nucleotides that a few also contain.

I feel really bad for anyone seeing this . Yes breastmilk is amazing and I bf my toddler but I KNOW formula contains more than this is indicating and I think it’s unfair it’s being shared on fb and it’s not correct and it going to make people feel bad

@seaandsandcastles

The thing is, it doesn’t have to be a judgement thing, but people get defensive about not being able to BF and take it as an attack, when the specific benefits of breastfeeding are simply pointed out.

Unless you're a doctor, why would you need to point out the benefits to others?

I don’t see the need for people to be sharing graphics about it but obviously formula is powdered milk with added vitamins and breastmilk has so many different ingredients we don’t even know all of them. Surely everyone knows this don’t they? Formula companies might claim that it has added probiotics and other magic potions but there’s absolutely no evidence that they do anything and they are killed by heating anyway. Everything in formula in the U.K. is stuff that is proven to be beneficial to infants and anything else is pure marketing guff. There’s really no comparison to make between BM and formula, they are completely different things.

@aSofaNearYou I don’t unless people try to spread misinformation that BF doesn’t have those benefits.

@seaandsandcastles

The thing is, it doesn’t have to be a judgement thing, but people get defensive about not being able to BF and take it as an attack, when the specific benefits of breastfeeding are simply pointed out.

The number of family members who feel the need to explain to me why they didn’t breastfeed when I had my kids 😞.

Everything in formula in the U.K. is stuff that is proven to be beneficial to infants and anything else is pure marketing guff.

Sorry meant to say everything that has to be included in formula by law in the U.K. is stuff that’s proven, anything else pure marketing. There is no independent research to back it up. See the case for probiotics. I have a feeling the EU actually banned them from advertising probiotic formula at one point because it’s misleading.

It doesn't make me feel bad for bottle feeding at all. I'm looking at the message that they're e trying to send out. They want more mums to breast feed, which is best. We all know breasg is best because its natural. But unfortunately some can't breast feed for what ever reason, like me. So thank goodness there is formula.

[quote seaandsandcastles]@aSofaNearYou I don’t unless people try to spread misinformation that BF doesn’t have those benefits.[/quote]
But that's quite different from being the one to make the first move, isn't it.

It's a lot like someone born rich feeling the need to educate others on the benefits of being so. It's tone deaf, and such a common issue of contention I wonder why the people who make it their mission to point out the benefits of breastfeeding don't see that it's badly received for a reason.

Its from an American bf group. From what I've read on MN there are wildly different (poorer) standards for what goes in formula milk. It may well be completely accurate for many of the cheaper (shitter) formula brands available on the US market.

I have never understood the weir obsession with breast feeding vs formula feeding on SM especially MN. Apparently it is fine to print out that BF is much better than FF. Fine.Ok.

But now if someone where to say they were concerned about there friend feeding their child an exclusive diet of chips and chicken nuggets then they cannot say anything because we have no right to judge them and maybe they can’t afoot better food and we hate poor people.

Can someone explain this logic to me? It is ok to point out the benefits of BF but not the benefits of not feeding your child junk food?

Why is the baby stage when everybody and their mum can have an opinion on what you feed your child and afterwards nobody can say anything.

@EllieSattler

Its from an American bf group. From what I've read on MN there are wildly different (poorer) standards for what goes in formula milk. It may well be completely accurate for many of the cheaper (shitter) formula brands available on the US market.

Yes but I’ve seen it on 2 U.K. fb groups so I was concerned someone may see this and believe it

@ithinkilikeit

I have never understood the weir obsession with breast feeding vs formula feeding on SM especially MN. Apparently it is fine to print out that BF is much better than FF. Fine.Ok.

But now if someone where to say they were concerned about there friend feeding their child an exclusive diet of chips and chicken nuggets then they cannot say anything because we have no right to judge them and maybe they can’t afoot better food and we hate poor people.

Can someone explain this logic to me? It is ok to point out the benefits of BF but not the benefits of not feeding your child junk food?

Why is the baby stage when everybody and their mum can have an opinion on what you feed your child and afterwards nobody can say anything.

I don’t think anyone says they are concerned about their friend bottle feeding.

@WhensomeonementionsMN no it’s he fact that people always will try and say that. ‘Well you know you are not doing the best for your child’ ‘BF is better even if it hurts your feelings that you can’t do it, we are allowed to say it’. But if somebody were to say that about what people feed their toddlers they would get a pile on.

Breastfeeding has been proven to lower the risk of developing breast and ovarian cancer, yes

Which is not the same as "killing cancer cells" though, is it.

Breastmilk does not kill cancer cells.

So correct it and repost it? If it’s accurate “being upset” is not a reason not to provide the facts. If it’s inaccurate then address that.

@5zeds

So correct it and repost it? If it’s accurate “being upset” is not a reason not to provide the facts. If it’s inaccurate then address that.

Yes it’s inaccurate that’s why I posted here because of that

@Lockheart

Breastfeeding has been proven to lower the risk of developing breast and ovarian cancer, yes

Which is not the same as "killing cancer cells" though, is it.

Breastmilk does not kill cancer cells.

There have been some studies that indicate that breastmilk can kill cancer cells.

[quote ithinkilikeit]@WhensomeonementionsMN no it’s he fact that people always will try and say that. ‘Well you know you are not doing the best for your child’ ‘BF is better even if it hurts your feelings that you can’t do it, we are allowed to say it’. But if somebody were to say that about what people feed their toddlers they would get a pile on.[/quote]
Yes, I agree with that.

I breast fed. But this is so divisive. You were absolutely right to complain.

Also, there is no mention of Vit D. No one told me to supplement with vit D if ebf. I took pregnancy vitamins. But not post pregnancy.

As an aside yes to the person who asked about bm killing cancer cells. There is a protein compound that produces cell death I tumour cells. It’s called HAMLET have a google it’s fascinating.

Formula is great and safe milk but usually it’s formula advertising that shits on breastfeeding. Breastmilk is complex and individualised and influences the developing immune system. Parents should know the difference but he comfortable with their choices. I have children fed both ways - doing your best can look different.

There is a huge scandal though that prem babies don’t get bm, it’s life saving for them and any hospital that doesn’t prioritise this - they have hugely different rates of bf and very different approaches with hospitals with statistically similar intakes showing big differences - loses children to illnesses that can be prevented just by bm

[quote ithinkilikeit]@WhensomeonementionsMN no it’s he fact that people always will try and say that. ‘Well you know you are not doing the best for your child’ ‘BF is better even if it hurts your feelings that you can’t do it, we are allowed to say it’. But if somebody were to say that about what people feed their toddlers they would get a pile on.[/quote]
I’ve never seen anyone say that to any mother that has not breastfed long term, because any feed is breastfeeding. But I acknowledge my view is skewed as I’ve never FF.

I see a lot of judgement on here about what people feed their toddlers.

@LemonMarshmallow so identify what is inaccurate and correct it.

I’ve never seen anyone say that to any mother that has not breastfed long term, because any feed is breastfeeding. But I acknowledge my view is skewed as I’ve never FF.

People have said it on this thread. They've said it in what's meant as kinder words than that, but they've said it.

Anyone that takes as absolute fact the stuff they read on FB is short of a few brain cells to start with.

If you don't want people to see it and be upset by it, stop sharing it on different platforms? Sharing it here is pointless,and will do nothing except upset people on mumsnet as well as the ones who have seen it on Facebook. Report it to the group that posted it

Just like everything else on the internet people should check whether its from a reputable source.

No different that many other factually incorrect posts polluting the interweb waves.