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AIBU about nothing having brothers GF at our home

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SockyIre · 03/09/2021 09:02

Long time lurker and first time poster. To give some background, my brothers GF of 4 years is a pretty nasty person towards our side of the family. She lives with him in my mothers house and for the past four years I've heard nothing but complaints from my mother about her laziness, not picking up after herself, selfishness, not contributing to the house etc(my mother has addressed this with them from time to time to no avail). She is fairly sh*y t us in general - she would often walk in and completely ignore us and not even say hello. She doesn't allow my brother to spend any time alone with me or my sister and is very manipulative towards him. She is very demanding of him and expects to be treated like a princess. She never puts her hand in her pocket for anything and expects him to pay for all her drinks etc. The whole family has been worried about his finances at some stage or other. The most horrible thing she does is ruin the few family get togethers that we have. My brothers GF has managed to lose the plot, have one drink too many and hurl abuse at my sister and I (several other relatives like aunts and family friends too)nearly every time we all get together (totally out of the blue, we are nice to her). For years we have put up with this from her because our brother is very defensive of her and we dont want to fall out. She has physically lashed out at my sister a number of times. The last time she ruined a family gathering was the straw that broke the camels back for me. I dont drink at all but I called the GF when she sobered up and basically told her is was last chance saloon with me and delivered an ultimatum to her. Also told my brother the same.

Since then she has been on best behavior (bar a couple of more minor mouthing off episodes) until last month.

I have recently had a baby and with covid and everything Ive asked my family to wait until they got vaccinated to meet her which everyone totally respected. My brother and GF got their vaccine and met her for the first time last month when she was 7 weeks old and was totally besotted with DD. They then went on to my sisters home for a couple of days.

I only heard what happened at my sisters home 2 days ago as my sister didnt want to stress me out with the baby and all. Long story short his GF started picking on my sisters friends and getting nasty with them after a couple of drinks and my bro and sis warned her to stop. She wouldnt and they just went home. When they got home the GF started hurling abuse at my bro and sis. As usual my bro left and ,my sis was left in the firing line. She refused to listen to her and went to her bedroom for a bit before nipping out to see where my brother had gone(eventually found him on his phone in the back of his car). When she came back to her house she found the GF at the kitchen table with wine and whining that my brother doesnt love her blah blah blah and then sis noticed that there was a pack of nurofen plus on the table with 4 or 5 missing. The GF told her she took them but then said she only took one. My sister went to fetch my brother to tell him. He initally refused to deal with it saying "she always does this sh*t". My sister made his GF vomit as she wasnt sure how many she had taken and if that many could do damage. When the bro eventually came in in a temper he slammed my sister into the wall and had another blazing row with his GF. She went to bed and she told me when she got up they were gone. Apparently they called an ambulance for the GF in the middle of the night and he had gone to collect her from hospital after getting her stomach pumped! When they came back that afternoon they refused to talk to my sister about the previous night and made a comment to her that SHE(my sister) had some temper!! They then warned her not to tell anyone and left and went to my place to stop in for a night. At the time I knew nothing but my spidey sense told me that there had been a row between the bro and his GF.

When my sister told me of this carry on I was totally shocked and then I got so cross for how they treated her and then I got super cross because I realised they had been at my place the day after and my daughter hadnt her first vaccinations at the time and if I had known that they had been in the hospital A and E I would have asked them not to stop in for fear she would pick up a bug. If I had known that his GF had had her stomach pumped they day before I would definately not have allowed her to be holding my DD for fear she would faint or get weakness or something. To cut a long story short I told my mother who gave the two of them a good verbal hiding and I spoke to them myself about why I was cross because in my (and DH's) view they were totally irresponsible to call in and be holding our DD for the reasons I mentioned above. They should have told us. The brothers GF basically told me "how dare you get on to me, like I was going to be thinking about you after the night I had" and I told her that tells me all I need to know, she was a total b on the phone and hung up on me. I spoke to my brother and he kinda understood but was miffed that I had said anything to his GF because she "felt bad enough about that night". I explained to him that after I heard about the carry on at my sisters place and considering she didnt give a hoot about our concerns with DD that his GF was no longer welcome at our home and since she ruined yet another family gathering she would not be welcome at DDs christening. I told him he could visit his niece whenever he liked but to forget about the visit they planned in September because I wouldnt be cooled off enough because I felt he was being a bit blasé about it still which in my opinion isnt fair.

My mother and husband think this approach is dead right and I am fairly relieved to think she wont be around me anymore but am I being unreasonable here? I dont want to fall out with my brother and I don't think he will call to visit anymore because his GF is banned from our house. But at the same time he totally enables this behaviour and in a way I blame him for letting this go on and on and if i was to tell the honest to god truth....Ive half a mind to ban him too but dont want to be seen as using access to DD as a weapon...What does everyone think?

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MadeForThis · 03/09/2021 09:17

Totally NC is needed.

Ughmaybenot · 03/09/2021 09:23

There really are only so many chances you can give someone and she’s taking the piss. Mind you, your brother doesn’t sound great either, if I am reading it right that he physically assaulted your sister (I apologise if I have the wrong end of the stick, it all got a bit complicated!)
I would be going NC, and I would feel no guilt about it. It’s baffling to me that your mum has allowed her to live in her home for all this time, given her behaviour.

FlibbertyGiblets · 03/09/2021 09:26

You said brother and GF live in your mother's house, do you mean they live with your mum and sister?

Mum can boot them out, if they don't pull their weight after askings.

PinkFootstool · 03/09/2021 09:27

You're being OTY about the how any of this might affect you.

Your brother is a nasty piece of work, sounds like he and his GF deserve each other....

Stay out of their batshit relationship.

Masterblasterjammin · 03/09/2021 09:32

She’s also lying about having her stomach pumped - that’s a completely outdated treatment method, and just literally isn’t done.

TimeIhadaNameChange · 03/09/2021 09:32

You should go NC with both of them. He abused your sister when he 'slammed her into the wall'.

CyberNan · 03/09/2021 09:33

stop looking at the girlfriend for resolution.... your brother has to be the one to make changes.

BigSandyBalls2015 · 03/09/2021 09:35

It’s all a bit Jeremy Kyle ... is stay well away.

BigSandyBalls2015 · 03/09/2021 09:36

I’d

ohfourfoxache · 03/09/2021 09:37

I’d ban him too

Completely unacceptable behaviour

ohfourfoxache · 03/09/2021 09:38

Pushing your sister into a wall is not something I’d be willing to forgive in a hurry

CoastalMum101 · 03/09/2021 09:40

There’s no way the hospital would do anything for 4 Nurofen Plus tablets apart from possibly give her some Omeprazole. They both sound like a pair of complete drama queens and I certainly wouldn’t be having my brother around my tiny baby if he’d recently physically assaulted anyone, let alone my sister.

What does your mum think about the whole thing? Why on earth is she allowing them to stay in her home?

leakymcleakleak · 03/09/2021 09:43

I think you need to look at your mother's role in all this. She is totally facilitating this shitshow by letting them live with her and complaining to you. I think years ago you should have said to her you don't want to hear it, and that should be your stance now.

Its all such drama, people talking about each other behind their backs. I wouldn't have focused on them being in a&e, I think that's insane - she might faint while holding your baby?! - I would focus a lot more on someone who assaulted my sister and can't hold their temper.

Yes, go no contact, but accept your whole family are playing a role in this. You can only enforce your own boundaries. But I bet your mother won't be asking them to leave, for all she says your approach is dead right, and she is completely facilitating their relationship by housing them both.

MatildaIThink · 03/09/2021 09:44

Your mother needs to kick your bother and this woman out of her house, the rest of the family need to go NC with your brother until he gets rid of her and fixes his behaviour and attitude.

Newmum29 · 03/09/2021 09:49

This isn’t about you or your daughter. Or the girlfriend. The issue is your brother attacking your sister. I wouldn’t be talking to my brother until he had apologised. Completely unacceptable.

LagunaBubbles · 03/09/2021 09:50

You are all enabling her awful behaviour and it's all such a drama. Your brother doesn't sound a nice guy either if he assualted your sister, why didn't she phone the Police?

bravotango · 03/09/2021 09:55

Never mind the GF, the brother has to go too

RampantIvy · 03/09/2021 09:56

They then warned her not to tell anyone and left and went to my place to stop in for a night.

How did they get in? Do they have a key? Why weren't you there?

Either get the key off them or change your locks, then stop all contact with them.

SockyIre · 03/09/2021 09:59

Thanks for the feedback, it’s great to get another perspective on it…sometimes it’s easier to point the finger at someone that is t blood.that was my gut feeling about my brother that I should tell him he’s not welcome too. The whole family has always spoilt him because he’s the baby but our lives would be so much more peaceful if it wasn’t for the drama that comes along with him

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FlibbertyGiblets · 03/09/2021 10:05

Is your sister safe, moving forwards? If more disagreements occur, he shoves her around again, she could get hurt.

SockyIre · 03/09/2021 10:14

@FlibbertyGiblets oh she’s totally safe, I should explain she’s built like a wrestler and he’s like a weed in comparison…as mad as it sounds I’d be nearly more afraid she would lose the cool and hurt him that’s why she removes herself from any situation where fisty cuffs start. It’s always alcohol fuelled which is worse

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HoppingPavlova · 03/09/2021 10:30

Your family sounds as if they thrive on drama.

If your mum is over it then she should tell DB and Girlfriend to leave. Neither her or your Sister should insert themselves un DB/Girlfriends life such as the way they sort finances between them.

Your DB sister sounds dramatic, no way a hospital pumped her stomach and esp due to 5 Nurofen (trust me, worked in A&E for decades).

You sound dramatic as the Girlfriend would not have fainted holding your baby, how ridiculous, nor would she have passed on every germ known to man because she had visited a hospital. Good God, it would have meant I couldn’t have touched any of my babies ever given I worked in A&E while all mine were babies/toddlers/kids. I managed this without being akin to Typhoid Mary.

Maybe if your mum/sister/DB/DB Girlfriend/yourself just cut the dramatics you could figure out if you want to move forward as a family with relationships or not bother.

WomanStanleyWoman · 03/09/2021 10:41

She sounds unhinged, but your brother obviously isn’t some scared victim living in fear of her. It seems like a very unhealthy relationship for both of them. I would refuse to have either of them in my house.

And yes, the ‘stomach pump’ episode is at best an exaggeration and at worst an invention. A&E for four bloody Nurofen?! Nonsense.

SockyIre · 03/09/2021 10:45

@HoppingPavlova you know what, this wasn’t easy to read…but I think it’s probably made me realise that I really don’t want to move forward with some relationships and I don’t need to wait for another drama to crop up to set my boundaries which is probably what I was doing in little increments….thank you

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Seesawmummadaw · 03/09/2021 10:55

How old are you all?
It’s very dramatic

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