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AIBU about nothing having brothers GF at our home

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SockyIre · 03/09/2021 09:02

Long time lurker and first time poster. To give some background, my brothers GF of 4 years is a pretty nasty person towards our side of the family. She lives with him in my mothers house and for the past four years I've heard nothing but complaints from my mother about her laziness, not picking up after herself, selfishness, not contributing to the house etc(my mother has addressed this with them from time to time to no avail). She is fairly sh*y t us in general - she would often walk in and completely ignore us and not even say hello. She doesn't allow my brother to spend any time alone with me or my sister and is very manipulative towards him. She is very demanding of him and expects to be treated like a princess. She never puts her hand in her pocket for anything and expects him to pay for all her drinks etc. The whole family has been worried about his finances at some stage or other. The most horrible thing she does is ruin the few family get togethers that we have. My brothers GF has managed to lose the plot, have one drink too many and hurl abuse at my sister and I (several other relatives like aunts and family friends too)nearly every time we all get together (totally out of the blue, we are nice to her). For years we have put up with this from her because our brother is very defensive of her and we dont want to fall out. She has physically lashed out at my sister a number of times. The last time she ruined a family gathering was the straw that broke the camels back for me. I dont drink at all but I called the GF when she sobered up and basically told her is was last chance saloon with me and delivered an ultimatum to her. Also told my brother the same.

Since then she has been on best behavior (bar a couple of more minor mouthing off episodes) until last month.

I have recently had a baby and with covid and everything Ive asked my family to wait until they got vaccinated to meet her which everyone totally respected. My brother and GF got their vaccine and met her for the first time last month when she was 7 weeks old and was totally besotted with DD. They then went on to my sisters home for a couple of days.

I only heard what happened at my sisters home 2 days ago as my sister didnt want to stress me out with the baby and all. Long story short his GF started picking on my sisters friends and getting nasty with them after a couple of drinks and my bro and sis warned her to stop. She wouldnt and they just went home. When they got home the GF started hurling abuse at my bro and sis. As usual my bro left and ,my sis was left in the firing line. She refused to listen to her and went to her bedroom for a bit before nipping out to see where my brother had gone(eventually found him on his phone in the back of his car). When she came back to her house she found the GF at the kitchen table with wine and whining that my brother doesnt love her blah blah blah and then sis noticed that there was a pack of nurofen plus on the table with 4 or 5 missing. The GF told her she took them but then said she only took one. My sister went to fetch my brother to tell him. He initally refused to deal with it saying "she always does this sh*t". My sister made his GF vomit as she wasnt sure how many she had taken and if that many could do damage. When the bro eventually came in in a temper he slammed my sister into the wall and had another blazing row with his GF. She went to bed and she told me when she got up they were gone. Apparently they called an ambulance for the GF in the middle of the night and he had gone to collect her from hospital after getting her stomach pumped! When they came back that afternoon they refused to talk to my sister about the previous night and made a comment to her that SHE(my sister) had some temper!! They then warned her not to tell anyone and left and went to my place to stop in for a night. At the time I knew nothing but my spidey sense told me that there had been a row between the bro and his GF.

When my sister told me of this carry on I was totally shocked and then I got so cross for how they treated her and then I got super cross because I realised they had been at my place the day after and my daughter hadnt her first vaccinations at the time and if I had known that they had been in the hospital A and E I would have asked them not to stop in for fear she would pick up a bug. If I had known that his GF had had her stomach pumped they day before I would definately not have allowed her to be holding my DD for fear she would faint or get weakness or something. To cut a long story short I told my mother who gave the two of them a good verbal hiding and I spoke to them myself about why I was cross because in my (and DH's) view they were totally irresponsible to call in and be holding our DD for the reasons I mentioned above. They should have told us. The brothers GF basically told me "how dare you get on to me, like I was going to be thinking about you after the night I had" and I told her that tells me all I need to know, she was a total b on the phone and hung up on me. I spoke to my brother and he kinda understood but was miffed that I had said anything to his GF because she "felt bad enough about that night". I explained to him that after I heard about the carry on at my sisters place and considering she didnt give a hoot about our concerns with DD that his GF was no longer welcome at our home and since she ruined yet another family gathering she would not be welcome at DDs christening. I told him he could visit his niece whenever he liked but to forget about the visit they planned in September because I wouldnt be cooled off enough because I felt he was being a bit blasé about it still which in my opinion isnt fair.

My mother and husband think this approach is dead right and I am fairly relieved to think she wont be around me anymore but am I being unreasonable here? I dont want to fall out with my brother and I don't think he will call to visit anymore because his GF is banned from our house. But at the same time he totally enables this behaviour and in a way I blame him for letting this go on and on and if i was to tell the honest to god truth....Ive half a mind to ban him too but dont want to be seen as using access to DD as a weapon...What does everyone think?

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SockyIre · 03/09/2021 10:58

@WomanStanleyWoman I actually saw there someone says that stomach pumping doesn’t happen anymore so I don’t know…look she was grasping at straws trying to get the heat off herself I suppose. I don’t think he is living in fear of her at all. It’s a strange dynamic between them. They are together since he was 21 and she is 5 or maybe 6 years older than him and it’s like he’s afraid for her not to be there if you know what I mean.
I suppose we are listening to this mantra “don’t fall out with your brother” from our parents and wider family but some of the comments there( though hard to read) are flipping my perspective on it totally….it’s for my brother to not be falling out with everyone else… and we’re at fault for always always overlooking his role and the shit he does which is not fair to his GF actually (as unhinged as she is)….he’s definitely done enough for me to say no, leave me be and I’m going to put 100% effort into not feeling guilty about it or doubting myself

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Eralos · 03/09/2021 11:06

They sound totally toxic but just so you know your baby will be fine if someone is in hospital before there jabs. I think you need to relax a bit on that.

SockyIre · 03/09/2021 11:14

It’s a relief to hear but sure I thought it was seriously risky because She had to go to hospital the week before and the nurses made such a big deal about isolating her because she had no jabs…we weren’t allowed in any waiting spaces or anything and were fast tracked through everything

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Goldbar · 03/09/2021 11:19

According to your account, your brother physically assaulted your sister.

I wouldn't be having either of them. They both sound awful.

Eralos · 03/09/2021 11:20

@SockyIre maybe they meant because of Covid? You don’t have to isolate a baby before they have their normal jabs. Is it’s different in Ireland maybe? (Sorry I’m just assuming your from Ireland from your turn of phrases) I live in London in a TB hotspot and my babies weren’t told to isolate before their BCG so I can’t imagine why the nurses put the fear of god into you like that…

SockyIre · 03/09/2021 11:26

You guessed right! No it definitely wasn’t cause of CoVid they were clear on it because a nurse met me at the door and said she had no jobs right and I said no and she said you can’t go through this usual way through A and E so And left us outside until they got an isolation room…I haven’t a clue I’m not a medical person😂obviously!!!

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5128gap · 03/09/2021 11:40

Its all really chaotic. GF sounds far from ideal, but the family are escalating it by getting involved in the drama. You're also mixing up things that are petty and nothing to do with you (your brother treating her like a princess, her being untidy at your mums) with major stuff like assault, and so the really serious stuff isn't given the focus it deserves. You're fortunate you don't have to live under the same roof as them, so in your position I would keep contact to an absolute minimum and leave if things start getting unpleasant. Don't engage in conversation about them with other family members, and get on with your own life. You can't stop your relatives doing these things but you can opt out of it yourself.

trumpisagit · 03/09/2021 11:46

It sounds like alcohol is a big driver to a lot of this.
How about planning some family events with no alcohol: invite them round for a cilup of tea.
Don't take DD to anywhere they and alcohol are likely to be.
Low contact with your brother seems a good idea too.

Honeymare · 03/09/2021 12:17

It sounds like there are unhealthy dynamics involving alcohol going on. Herself and your brother sound well suited. I would not let them into your house. It's too easy to get sucked into that sort of drama.

Balonzette · 03/09/2021 12:26

You're being silly about your brother's girlfriend not holding your baby after setting foot in a hospital or having her stomach pumped. That's just an excuse to be more annoyed by the sound of things.

Your family set up is absolutely bizarre and you just need to sort it out to be honest. Why is your mum letting your brother and this girl live with them and just complaining about it constantly? Kick them out? It's not hard to figure out?

And why are you still inviting this girl to family gatherings if she's a bad drunk?

Just stop. You're enabling this situation by taking no action to change it.

Your brother is more likely to stay with this girl if he's got a sweet set up where, regardless of how bad the GFs behaviour is, his whole family bizarrely crowd around and treat her as one of their own??!

Only your family can change this.

So change it.

Plumtree391 · 03/09/2021 12:44

I wouldn't have thought four or five Nurofen warranted a stomach pump, frankly. Obviously people shouldn't be taking so much in one go but there are some who have taken a lot more, and other things, with little effect. However I daresay A&E wanted to be on the safe side and she won't want to go through that again.

Your brother's girlfriend sounds dreadful but I don't understand why your mother houses her. They need to go. I think you were right to ban her from your house, brother will get over it.

Do you know why the girl took the tablets?

nothingcanhurtmewithmyeyesshut · 03/09/2021 13:27

What a load of shit. They haven't pumped stomachs for years and years.

4 nurofen is actually a perfectly safe dose and is the same as 2 prescription strength ibuprofen. I regularly double up on ibuprofen when my strong ones run out. You can take up to 800mg safely as a one off. If its a regular thing they will give a PPI like Omeprazole with it

ShortColdandGrey · 03/09/2021 13:29

Why the hell hasn't your mum chucked her out? and if your brother isn't happy about it he can go with her.

DontDrinkDontSmokeWhatDoIDo · 03/09/2021 13:38

Ah, OP, this is ridiculous and far too much drama.

Why is your mum enabling it and why don't you just take yourself out of the equation?

Also, you said something about not wanting you withhold contact between your brother and your DD as you don't want to use her as a pawn (can't remember exactly what you said, sorry).

In the nicest possible way - she's his niece, not his child. Uncles aren't generally as connected to / bothered about your baby has you are, and certainly I wouldn't be encouraging a relationship between as volatile uncle & auntie as you have there.

Plumtree391 · 03/09/2021 15:27

@nothingcanhurtmewithmyeyesshut

What a load of shit. They haven't pumped stomachs for years and years.

4 nurofen is actually a perfectly safe dose and is the same as 2 prescription strength ibuprofen. I regularly double up on ibuprofen when my strong ones run out. You can take up to 800mg safely as a one off. If its a regular thing they will give a PPI like Omeprazole with it

I thought that was likely but, well, you never know I suppose. I'm glad you've said it.
nothingcanhurtmewithmyeyesshut · 03/09/2021 19:37

@Plumtree391 I live with atypical trigeminal neuralgia. If there's one thing I know, it's painkillers Grin

Plumtree391 · 03/09/2021 19:46

You poor thing. I had it once many years ago, was on Tegretol for a while - not long. It was very wearing. It must be awful to have to live with it.
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