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To think its almost IMPOSSIBLE to make fudge? Any fudge makers -advice needed!

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RVN123 · 26/08/2021 16:30

Hi all.
I'm a very experienced home baker. I'm not used to things not turning out as they should and so I'm very annoyed at myself.

Up until a few months ago though, I'd never made fudge because I personally just don't like it much. However, I've been asked by a good friend to make whisky fudge for wedding favours.
Over the last few months I've been making many batches with varying degrees of success. I've scoured every fudge website known to man for tips and tricks (though some are completely contradictory ie stir continuously vs not stirring at ALL while it cooks - I've tried both of these methods, neither worked).
I tried condensed milk fudge from an online recipe and it refused to set up, ended up with a sloppy pale sticky mess.
The recipe I've settled on is 'Old Fashioned Whisky Fudge'. Ingredients are double cream, butter, milk, golden caster sugar, muscovado sugar, and finally the whisky (see below).
My main problem is getting the fudge to be hard enough, as it needs to hold it's shape when cut into small squares at room temperature - its going into favour boxes that I've also made to hold it.
The recipe says it will keep for two weeks if covered, and that its not necessary to refrigerate it (though you can).

So, WHY is the fudge too soft?

  1. After a few failed attempts ending with a sloppy non setting blob, I reduced the liquid in the recipe, ie completely took out the milk, used extra thick double cream instead of regular double cream, reduced the butter, and reduced the already small amount of whisky.
  2. I used a candy thermometer (calibrated with boiling water so I know its showing the correct temperature) to get to 244 degrees F which the recipe states, slightly higher than normal to allow for the addition of alcohol. I make sure it's not touching the base of the pan and is in the fudge itself to not get a false reading.
  3. I beat it at the cooling stage until my arm is falling off, approx 15 minutes, until it thickens and looses its sheen. I also had one batch where I used an electric mixer, it turned into a seperated yet gritty oily mess. Now I am sticking to the wooden spoon method.
  4. I set at room temperature, not the fridge, as according to most websites you should not set fudge in the fridge. Something to do with sugar crystal formation. It's still far too soft even if left overnight.
  5. I let it cool to approx 230F before beginning the beating process, according to the recipe.
  6. I've made it only on dry days as I read that fudge making is affected by the weather! Humidity and rain can affect the fudge apparently. Although that is maybe only what bad fudge makers say!

The recipe I'm using is

400ml double cream
150g butter
100ml milk
300g golden caster sugar
300g light muscovado sugar
3 tablespoons whisky

I've eliminated the milk, reduced the butter and the whisky. It's still far too soft to cut into squares. Ideally I want a very firm fudge with a bit of bite.

WHAT am I doing wrong? Any fudge makers out there with any advice? I'm starting to get nervous as the favours are needed in 3 weeks and I need to make at least 8 batches. It's costing me a small fortune every time I screw it up. I'm honestly a good baker, I just cannot conquer fudge.
Thanks.

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EnsignKim · 06/09/2021 17:46

BRAVO OP! I’m so glad you did it! Grin

Gladioli23 · 06/09/2021 19:53

Good job OP! That looks mega!

PenguinWings · 06/09/2021 19:59

I mix carnation and caster sugar in a heavy pan, bring to the boil, add extras (strawberries or blackberries) and let it cool. It might not be very authentic but it works. I think that the whiskey would make it too runny.

PenguinWings · 06/09/2021 19:59

Sorry I'm being stupid!

goose1964 · 06/09/2021 20:04

I disagree with previous posters say I can only make fudge with a thermometer, you need to crouch so you'd be looking at the thermometer horizontally. Last time the bottom caught but it made fabulous burnt sugar fudge. I've seen recipes for slow cooker fudge, you could try adding whisky to that.

CheshireDing · 06/09/2021 20:26

Just read the whole thread in the hope you were successful.

Good work OP, looks fab

Toiletrollbuyer · 06/09/2021 20:30

@RVN123 blimey that looks fab. I’ve seen fudge made at a supplier in cornwall and it’s well beyond my skill level - it all looked very complicated with lots of folding and scraping. Yours looks wonderful

HomeSliceKnowsBest · 06/09/2021 20:36

Just order from Gardeners of Scotland. Jobs a goodun.

coodawoodashooda · 06/09/2021 20:42

@MadMadMadamMim

Blimey. All that sounds hard work. I make tablet (Scottish fudge) all the time and it's easy.

Melt 125g butter in a pan over slow heat. Add 2lb granulated sugar and 1/2 pint whole milk.

Bring slowly up to boil and stir occasionally until it reaches 118 degrees Celsius on sugar thermometer. This should take roughly 30mins. You need time for the sugar to begin to granulate.

Remove from heat, slosh in a bit of vanilla essence and a tin of condensed milk. (I guess you could put the whisky in at this point, but 3 tablespoons sounds a LOT. That's probably why it's not setting)

Put back on lowish heat and keep stirring til it reaches 118 degrees again. (Celsius) Again, probably another 20 mins. Should be light brown at this point.

Remove from heat, beat with electric whisk until it's grainy and thick and will just about still pour into a baking tray lined with greaseproof paper.

Spread out. After about 10 mins mark into squares for cutting.

Thank you for this.
NotAnotherUserNumber · 08/09/2021 10:11

So glad it worked. It looks fantastic. If you want the Whisky flavour stronger then you could add more (but still at the start of the boil).

When boiling sugar it doesn’t actually matter how much water you add as long as it is before boiling to the correct temp. The temperature of the solution is correlated to the concentration, so will be correct anyway as long as it is taken to the correct temperature (additions of other substances do have some minor affect on this due to affects in bonding, but within reason, not enough to be noticeable).

NotAnotherUserNumber · 08/09/2021 10:12

P.S. For anyone making sweets or boiling sugar for cakes, icings etc. I strongly recommend buying a digital thermometer. This makes everything so much easier.

alittlequinnie · 08/09/2021 10:58

Yay!!! I have far too much invested in this thread!

Just as an aside - I LOVE fudge - but really REALLY hate whiskey - does the bride not want some bags that are not whiskey at all?

....misses point of thread...

TheWatersofMarch · 08/09/2021 20:32

I don't think you should have alcohol molecules as I think this alters the consistency. Gently heat the whisky until the alcohol boils off. I don't think it's the water molecules (which you get in the cream). Maybe try on a small batch?

WheresYourSnickers · 13/09/2021 22:03

Yay! Glad it worked out for you OP. Looks fab & I am sure your friend will be delighted Smile

RVN123 · 16/09/2021 22:08

Well guys, today was the day. 12 batches of fudge later (3 failures) it's all done and dusted. If I never see a piece of fudge again it will be too soon.
Have attached some pics of the finished favour bags and the handmade favour boxes I made for them to go into. Wedding is on Saturday.
Managed to fit 4 very good sized squares of fudge into each bag.

Thanks again to all who contributed to the thread.
I'm still finding loads of conflicting stuff online, just watched a Phil Vickery video where he said never to stop stirring it! As opposed to others who say you should NEVER stir it. All very confusing, but at least it's done, and I have a little more experience.

Thanks all.

To think its almost IMPOSSIBLE to make fudge? Any fudge makers -advice needed!
To think its almost IMPOSSIBLE to make fudge? Any fudge makers -advice needed!
To think its almost IMPOSSIBLE to make fudge? Any fudge makers -advice needed!
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RVN123 · 16/09/2021 22:11

Last batch. 80 bags of fudge ready to go!

To think its almost IMPOSSIBLE to make fudge? Any fudge makers -advice needed!
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TheLongRider · 16/09/2021 22:13

Fantastic!

PoodleJ · 17/09/2021 06:34

Just double check that your thermometer measurements are in degrees F like your recipe states and not degrees C.
I would also suggest that the problem is not the recipe but the thermometer. Do the soft ball test and make sure that you are beating the fudge enough before pouring.

WheresYourSnickers · 17/09/2021 11:50

Wow! That's some amount of effort, you're an amazing friend 👏

cultkid · 17/09/2021 11:59

Could you make the fudge without the whisky and then paint it ontop with a brush once set

The booze will affect the set 100

The sugar is wet too, cna you use less Demerara and more golden caster xx

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