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To cringe a little at this?

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blackandwhitelife · 26/08/2021 00:21

I'm not sure if I actually believe this anyway but other than what I've heard from family and friends I don't know much about MLM. An old friend (not as close now as we both have kids so don't get much time to catch up) left her job last year to join the body shop at home. I believe she was selling the products originally on Facebook and recruiting people etc. She is now a senior manager or something along those lines. Seems to be doing very well for herself and earning big bucks. As far as I was aware most people just about manage to break even in those types of jobs. She drives a nice car and lives in a nice house, credits the body shop for her success. If it's true I think it's great, genuinely I do. I'm not jealous before any suggests. She's a single mum and I think it's lovely that she can afford a nice lifestyle for her and her kids.

I've noticed that she keeps on posting monthly pictures on Facebook of her payslips which show her to be earning between 2-3k a month. I'm assuming it's to try and get people to join but I just find it so bizarre. I can't imagine ever posting my payslip on social media for the whole world to see but maybe that's because I earn a shit wage in comparison (). I just wouldn't want people to know what I earn. I also think it's pretty misleading as I very much doubt most of the people who join this sort thing will be earning 3k a month, perhaps she's just lucky. I don't know. Gosh I sound like a right cow bag now that I've read that back...

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CirqueDeMorgue · 26/08/2021 00:29

I'd cringe and also assume they were somehow fake tbh.

bonfireheart · 26/08/2021 00:29

I'm always surprised that someone many shops are going bust and Body Shop continued to exist.

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blackandwhitelife · 26/08/2021 00:38

Me too @bonfireheart - they seem to do well at Christmas though

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RoseRedRoseBlue · 26/08/2021 00:39

This reeks of desperation to be honest, not success.

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blackandwhitelife · 26/08/2021 00:47

It's all very strange. The payslips actually look real though. Name, address, dates and the wage is listed and everything. Can people actually fabricate payslips nowadays?

I know she is a manager but I'm not exactly sure what she does. From her posts it looks like they just have meetings all day, always planning "new and exciting stuff". Who knew selling body butter could earn you 3k a month, I'm obviously in the wrong job

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EvilEdna1 · 26/08/2021 00:55

Wouldn't she be self employed if she is part of a MLM? Therefore no payslips.

CiaoForNiao · 26/08/2021 00:55

My experience of MLMs tells me you don't get payslips

Whattheschitt · 26/08/2021 00:58

@CiaoForNiao

My experience of MLMs tells me you don't get payslips

My thoughts exactly.

A former friend of mine began selling juice plus, and she got sent images and scripts to post and what statuses to write on Facebook. It's all fake. She would be posting about how successful she is, yet i knew from talking to her she wasn't even breaking even.

YouokHun · 26/08/2021 01:43

Given that 99.6% of all sign ups to MLM lose money then IF she is making a consistent sum above the National minimum wage every month she is fairly rare and it will be through recruiting as that’s the only way to make money. The problem is that to mass recruit and be ok with that you’ve got to be ok with causing a lot of misery and debt. Body Shop is pretty nasty and catches people out because it has an air of high street legitimacy. Talented Ladies Club has some good articles on the problems with MLM. It’s likely that the payments she’s showing are not all they seem and very often people are propping up their MLM lifestyle with another income source, www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/is-it-really-possible-to-make-money-in-an-mlm-we-do-the-sums/

HappyDays40 · 26/08/2021 01:53

My friend gave up a 20 year career to do body shop at home. I know that she is earning enough to pay a mortgage etc a single parent but I havevno idea of the figures. Ive no reason to think she is lying though.

phishy · 26/08/2021 02:02

I also think the payslips are fake.

choli · 26/08/2021 02:08

Isn't a basic tenet of MLM that you fake it till you make it?

Biker47 · 26/08/2021 02:29

Someone on my neighbourhood facebook page, apparently gave up their £45k p.a. job; to sell knock off perfumes online and at the local market; and that's somehow make enough to afford their mortgage and a brand new BMW. The post they posted to announce this, read so obviously like a pre-prepared script they were given, it was laughable. I'll always treat those sorts of things as suspicious, well because they are. 5 minutes on a computer and I can knock up my payslip to look like I'm paid £10k a week.

UmbrellaDrops · 26/08/2021 03:43

Take it with a pinch of salt or if you can't beat them, join them.

UnsuitableHat · 26/08/2021 05:27

Genuine or not, posting pictures of payslips is extremely cringeworthy. Assume it’s a recruitment ploy, but ugh.

Eileen101 · 26/08/2021 05:33

Fake payslips are a recruitment technique for mlms - to increase their 'downlines'/teams.

Also what pp said about 'fake it til you make it'.

Limitedhelp · 26/08/2021 05:45

I've seen others post these 'payslips' too.

At first I was impressed. But the 'script'/ comment along with it just didn't read like the way she normally/used to write. It was most definitely a script and so makes me think the payslip is fake.

Very cringe

LadyWithLapdog · 26/08/2021 06:06

She must be very good with her money as I can’t manage a nice car and my mortgage on that kind of wage. I agree it’s very cringy to put up your payslip on FB.

Gimlisaxe · 26/08/2021 06:08

With MLM you are either being screwed or doing the screwing

SofiaMichelle · 26/08/2021 06:40

Can people actually fabricate payslips nowadays?

Absolutely.

sadperson16 · 26/08/2021 06:45

I dont believe it. Nobody makes 30k by selling this stuff.Those with little disposable income wont be buying it, those with money will be buying from higher up the food chain.
The days of going round to Carol's for nibbles and Blossom Hill and bagging a free makeover are long gone.
I suspect criminal activity.

LadyWithLapdog · 26/08/2021 06:56

I knew someone about 15-20 years ago who put aside her job as a solicitor to sell children’s books. It’s inexplicable how that made any sense. It was post-DC so maybe she resumed her job later on when reality kicked in. She did have a nice house for wine & nibbles.

girlmom21 · 26/08/2021 06:59

£2000-3000 a month surely isn't enough for an entire lifestyle change in under a year as a sole earner in a household?

sadperson16 · 26/08/2021 06:59

Re drinks and nibbles.....unless I am mistaken a wee problem called The Pandemic has scuppered "parties" .

PopcornMuncher · 26/08/2021 07:00

I have never known anyone who posts pics of online payslips and IME nobody who has money brags about it except for one and he is tedious as fuck

I know somebody who does bodyshop. Posts all the time on FB and it is pretty cringe. If your product and income is so good why would you need to be on FB selling raffles every other day. The amount of people who say stuff like well done hun, or you go babe makes me

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