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Refreshpage · 26/08/2021 09:16

@blackandwhitelife

It's all very strange. The payslips actually look real though. Name, address, dates and the wage is listed and everything. Can people actually fabricate payslips nowadays?

I know she is a manager but I'm not exactly sure what she does. From her posts it looks like they just have meetings all day, always planning "new and exciting stuff". Who knew selling body butter could earn you 3k a month, I'm obviously in the wrong job

How much tax does it show she pays?

DevonTF · 26/08/2021 09:36

I worked in recruitment for a long time. The money was really good back then. When I first started, there was an absolute tosser who worked in the team called Pete. Salary in the 2000s was about £25-30k, but the bonuses were big. The bonuses were paid quarterly. Many of the consultants would get their resourcers / secretary etc a decent gift if commission was good.

Not Pete. But one bonus pay day - Pete left a card on all of the support staffs desks.

He had photocopied his bonus statement - £27,000 and put in in a card with a note, 'If you all aimed higher, this is what you could achieve'.

Balonzette · 26/08/2021 09:44

I know someone who made an absolute fortune from one of the earlier MLMs. Went from being a skint single mum to now earning a beautiful big home, fancy car, bought a business with her earnings (thriving cafe so now has even more money) but it all started with the MLM.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 26/08/2021 09:55

My friend says her business was £100k last year- then she let slip on one of her 'lives' on FB she made £60 a month. She'd have worked her arse off for that too. I can't wait until she see the light and leaves.

Tal45 · 26/08/2021 10:12

With these MLM's there are loads of targets to move up, MLMers often end up buying their own stuff to meet their targets. They have to make it all look amazing though because you soon have to recruit others to be able to get anywhere and people drop out a lot. I wouldn't believe any of it.

Tal45 · 26/08/2021 10:14

The truly desperate even end up taking loans to look like they're having an amazing lifestyle to help convince others to join.

RightYesButNo · 26/08/2021 10:19

It's all very strange. The payslips actually look real though. Name, address, dates and the wage is listed and everything. Can people actually fabricate payslips nowadays?

See image. That me and a one-second Google search.

RightYesButNo · 26/08/2021 10:19

“That’s me” ffs

acatcalledjohn · 26/08/2021 10:47

@Balonzette

I know someone who made an absolute fortune from one of the earlier MLMs. Went from being a skint single mum to now earning a beautiful big home, fancy car, bought a business with her earnings (thriving cafe so now has even more money) but it all started with the MLM.

All those poor women she scammed out of their savings to get to where she is. Her cafe is based on fraud.

ForensicAccountant · 26/08/2021 11:23

I work in a sector where we have to verify people’s income. We actually have training on how to pick out the fake payslips as they are getting ever more professional.

VolcanicEruption · 26/08/2021 12:14

The fake payslips are probably as big as the fake educational certificates.
If you do a search on fb marketplace any area and you will see that it is awash with FM,BSAH,Avon,Forever Living, Juice Plus, Cambridge diet, TS life and others. Lot of landfill there.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 26/08/2021 12:28

I could knock you up a fake payslip for Social Media (not financial or identity fraud, they'd take a little bit more work/attention to details) in about ten minutes including two cups of tea, a trip to the toilet and getting the cat off the printer twice, especially as so many are produced online these days. I'm not going to because I'm not a criminal - and learned this in the process of identifying and dealing with fraud - but it is incredibly easy to do.

MLM is exploitative bollocks.

Cheesecheeseboard · 26/08/2021 12:46

An acquaintance is on FB, started off with Younique, then it was jewelry for a day or two. Suddenly she was an independent travel agent ( apparently did lots of 📖) that lasted a few weeks till she realised it’s a bloody pandemic! Now onto the next makeup brand. So cringey ( but entertaining to watch!) every time she starts something new, posts about how she’s her own boss etc entrepreneur etc
The only ones replying are the ‘friends’ she’s made of said company yes hun 🔥 you’re smashing it 👊🏼
If you then click on those profiles just copied and pasted posts stating exactly same things, same emojis 🙄😂
If someone asks further into its pm you hun
So fun to watch

StCharlotte · 26/08/2021 12:52

Didn't the Body Shop used to have ethics?

Polkadots2021 · 26/08/2021 13:35

@blackandwhitelife

I'm not sure if I actually believe this anyway but other than what I've heard from family and friends I don't know much about MLM. An old friend (not as close now as we both have kids so don't get much time to catch up) left her job last year to join the body shop at home. I believe she was selling the products originally on Facebook and recruiting people etc. She is now a senior manager or something along those lines. Seems to be doing very well for herself and earning big bucks. As far as I was aware most people just about manage to break even in those types of jobs. She drives a nice car and lives in a nice house, credits the body shop for her success. If it's true I think it's great, genuinely I do. I'm not jealous before any suggests. She's a single mum and I think it's lovely that she can afford a nice lifestyle for her and her kids.

I've noticed that she keeps on posting monthly pictures on Facebook of her payslips which show her to be earning between 2-3k a month. I'm assuming it's to try and get people to join but I just find it so bizarre. I can't imagine ever posting my payslip on social media for the whole world to see but maybe that's because I earn a shit wage in comparison (). I just wouldn't want people to know what I earn. I also think it's pretty misleading as I very much doubt most of the people who join this sort thing will be earning 3k a month, perhaps she's just lucky. I don't know. Gosh I sound like a right cow bag now that I've read that back...

OP go to Companies House and if she is a ltd company you can check what she really earns there.

DevonTF · 26/08/2021 13:35

StCharlotte

The body Shop sold out years ago.

2006 - Sold to L’Oriel, then to the Brazilian firm Natura - who also own Avon etc

And let’s not forget how they treated JK Rowling.

twitter.com/TheBodyShop/status/1270773993109434373/photo/1

Never bought anything from them since.

doadeer · 26/08/2021 13:39

The pay slip will be fake. It also wouldn't appear as a pay slip I'm sure, they aren't an employee. Wouldn't it come as an invoice deposit, like if you sell on etsy.

3k is a hell of a lot of body butter.

I sell tops on a marketplace, if I do 30 orders ish it's £700... It would be a huge jump to be earning 3/4k and remember they only get a cut of the product value. If you sell a £10 body butter you don't get £10.

bamboocat · 26/08/2021 14:33

@Lifeisaminestrone

Didn’t Anita Roddick encourage ethical business. Used to be lot of against animal cruelty and bottle reuse?

I assumed The Body Shop was a dated 80/90s offering in a few high streets selling favourites to older customers (like my Mum) who still likes a random tropical shampoo and eyeliner.

I didn’t even know was a MLM!!

What a shame, in its hey day, it was a real innovator for better business. What happened?

Anita Roddick sold the Body Shop in 2006.

Cocomarine · 26/08/2021 14:40

Bullshit.

Dare you to post, “I thought you had to be self employed to do Body Shop - I’m really interested if they’re recruiting employees - can you DM me hun? xxx”