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AIBU - to say rip currents can get you in shallow water and body boards are actually quite dangerous

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Tillylovestomatoes · 24/08/2021 07:17

So whenever I’ve heard about people getting into trouble at the beach I’ve always assumed it was either unsupervised kids or people swimming / surfing in deep water. I never thought anything like that could happen to me and my family because we always stayed in shallow water close to shore. I thought body boarding in the shallows was safe, especially when the tide was coming in, so me and the kids would paddle out to about thigh height, get on our boards and let the waves bring us back to shore. Unfortunately we were doing just that when we got pulled into a rip current and carried out to sea.

Rip currents can travel up to 2m per second and can pull you out the length of a football pitch in the space of 1 minute. You don’t even realise it’s happening until you suddenly see the beach looking very far away.

By the time I realised something was wrong and leapt off my board to test the water depth - I was up to my neck in water. I grabbed the kids and tried to wade back holding them above the water but the current was too strong and just kept pushing us back even further until the water started coming over my head. I had to scream for the kids to swim. Luckily, they are both good swimmers because we’d lost our boards in the panic. The boards should have been attached to our arms but the Velcro straps were rubbish and always came undone.

I swam to get the boards back and managed to grab two of them but by that time my kids had drifted further away. They were swimming on their backs by this point but I found it hard to catch them up and get back to them. The sight of them in the deep open water will haunt me for the rest of my life. Even though it was only a few metres they have never seemed to far away and out of reach. I really didn’t think we were going to make it.

We were incredibly fortunate that day because we had positioned ourselves near a local surf school which had trained life guards working for them and they came to rescue us. If we’d been on a more isolated beach then I dread to think what could have happened. We didn’t see any flags or signs to indicate any danger and we hadn’t managed to spot anything untoward from the shore. The beach we were on only had a voluntary life guard presence at weekends so lots of scope for accidents to happen for people like me not fully understanding the risks.

Prior to this, I’d heard of rip currents but didn’t know how common they were. I also didn’t know that they could pull you out from shallow water or really understand how quickly they could pull you in. (Apparently a rip current on the same beach had previously pulled in a horse and rider cantering along the shoreline). I had also thought body boarding in shallow water with me present was relatively safe. I was very wrong and would hate any other families to make the same mistake. I for one will never get on a body board again but I see so many people using them on social media. So AIBU to highlight that rip currents very much can get you in the shallow water and that body boarding might not be as safe as you think it is?

Please take care x

Have name changed as I haven’t been able to talk about this to anyone in RL yet. Am still too upset but wanted to highlight dangers for others before the bank holiday.

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Bananarama21 · 24/08/2021 10:30

Rip currents can take the most strongest of swimmers it's quite common for even surfers to get into trouble. Never swim against it always swim to the side.

AIBU - to say rip currents can get you in shallow water and body boards are actually quite dangerous
AIBU - to say rip currents can get you in shallow water and body boards are actually quite dangerous
DaftVader42 · 24/08/2021 10:40

Also, for those using buoyancy aids - a useful test is to lift your kids up slightly using the shoulders. If the aid goes above their face, it’s too big and becomes a problem in the water. Saw a lot of these at our beach yesterday. It’s fine when they’re feeling safe, but when they start to panic it makes it worse. Make sure they fit properly !

ssd · 24/08/2021 10:46

@Tillylovestomatoes

ssd pleas be careful. I’ve now learnt that on the same stretch of beach where we got caught - an RAF pilot who’d been windsurfing actually drowned. This guy would have had the best survival skills and still got caught out.
After your thread, I'm never going in the sea again. I'll stick to lochs. Thank you Flowers
Flatdisco · 24/08/2021 10:49

This sounds awful op. Glad you are all OK. I can't imagine the fear it's giving me goose pimples.

I live in the North East and that water is bloody freezing so I'm not a beach goer on the regular. But I thought it was quite well known that inflatables and things like body boards can get caught in rip tides so are not recommended for use?

I'm not trying to be arsey as I say I don't go to the beach often. So maybe I'm mistaken. Not that I thought they were banned but maybe signs up saying not to use.

Anyway good thread to raid awareness and so glad you are all ok.

HarrietsChariot · 24/08/2021 10:55

YANBU - people shouldn't be in the sea at all. If you want to swim or splash about just go to a pool. Open water is too dangerousl

SillyDoriswithaDangler · 24/08/2021 11:00

I'm Australian and we spend a lot of time at the beach. When you get stuck in a rip don't fight it just float. They don't drag you very far out before spitting you out.

Borderingonmadness · 24/08/2021 11:08

@HarrietsChariot

YANBU - people shouldn't be in the sea at all. If you want to swim or splash about just go to a pool. Open water is too dangerousl
Its people that are dangerous and thick, popular beaches are signed and life guarded, people continually go & swim in the surf areas, swim outside the flagged areas and ignore the life guards.

Yesterday saw a father with those foam tubes kids use in 'pools - he and his 3 children were going into a river the marines use for cold water diving, very deep and very dangerous, signs everywhere, i advised him of the risks - he told me to fuck off and mind my own business.

CounsellorTroi · 24/08/2021 11:14

@SillyDoriswithaDangler

I'm Australian and we spend a lot of time at the beach. When you get stuck in a rip don't fight it just float. They don't drag you very far out before spitting you out.
If you’re not a strong swimmer you fInd you’ve been dragged out too far to make it back safely.
Jemand · 24/08/2021 11:16

Did you try getting everyone to swim sideways? Because most rips are only a couple of metres in diameter, if you paddle sideways you’ll escape the pull and be able to swim back to shore.

According to that video posted upthread, that isn't necessarily as easy as it sounds.

AbsentmindedWoman · 24/08/2021 11:19

Can rips really suck you out if you're just paddling? I never go deeper than ankle/ mid calf, had thought this was safe!

Glad you are ok OP that sounds completely terrifying.

Anonanon1234 · 24/08/2021 11:34

You are meant to swim sideways to get out of a rip-tide.

Definitely educate yourselves on how to spot them...people get fooled by thinking that a particular area looks nice and calm, between the waves, but is actually more dangerous.

Also, remember FLOAT TO SURVIVE.

I live near the coast and it's terrifying how many day-trippers get caught out by our tides, because they don't know the danger spots.

BigRedFrog · 24/08/2021 11:37

@AbsentmindedWoman yes, they can be strong enough to take your feet out from under you.

HoppingPavlova · 24/08/2021 11:39

Can rips really suck you out if you're just paddling? I never go deeper than ankle/ mid calf, had thought this was safe!

Nope. I’ve had two instances as an adult where I was ankle deep in water and all of a sudden thought ‘whoa’ as my feet were literally being dragged through the sand I had to fight tooth and nail to get my feet out of the sand and come back as I was getting sucked out. Water was only mid-calf at that point but it was an almighty struggle. It wasn’t beach quicksand either (had this as well once), as I wasn’t being sucked down, it was definitely a really strong drag out.

I have also been walking along the beach on wet sand but not in the water as such and out of nowhere a large wave just came up and I was knocked off my feet and stood up to find myself knee deep in water which had a strong drag. Worse still was several kids who had been playing on wet sand but away from waters edge and were suddenly swept in so adults everywhere racing to fish them out, was chaos and happened in the blink of an eye.

Tillylovestomatoes · 24/08/2021 12:25

Flatdisco if there were any signs we must have missed them but with hindsight I just hadn’t known enough about rip currents before this happened. I hadn’t realised how common they were. I also thought if we were boarding near a surf school for kids then that would be a safe location to do it. The problem was, we didn’t want to interfere with their session so were a bit further along and that obviously made all the difference. But most if all, I didn’t realise how you could get caught out when you were shallow and close to shore. I thought this type of thing only happened to people who were in much deeper water like swimmers and proper surfers. I feel absolutely terrible about what happened and don’t want anyone else to make the same mistake hence why I’m trying to make sure other people are aware of the dangers too. I certainly wouldn’t knowingly have out us in that position.

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Emmelina · 24/08/2021 12:45

Not unreasonable at all. Rip currents can appear very calm and harmless, so someone not knowing about them might wade in willingly without a second thought.

rnli.org/safety/know-the-risks/rip-currents

StrangeToSee · 24/08/2021 13:32

yes we were trying to cut across sideways in the direction of the surf school but it was quite disorientating because the rip had pulled us out 200m so we couldn’t even see the shoreline anymore. Plus we were trying to swim on our backs which was less tiring but harder to see where we were going if that makes sense

Yes, it’s hard to swim sideways once you’re that far out. Sometimes it’s best to raise an arm for help and let the rip carry you back to shore (nearly all rips go in a circle eventually although with kids that must have been very scary, trying to keep everyone calm enough to float). X

ssd · 24/08/2021 15:37

Please dont feel terrible @Tillylovestomatoes
You can see by the answers how many of us are learning about rip tides here. You certainly weren't alone in your ignorance, for want of a better word. Your thread has educated many of us Flowers

sbhydrogen · 24/08/2021 15:53

I've been taken out to sea by a rip current before. Despite knowing that you should swim parallel to the shore in order to swim out of the current, all logic went out the window and I was trying to fight it by swimming back directly to the shore.

I remember thinking "is this how I go?" as I grew more and more tired. Luckily, like you, there was a surf school nearby and a student paddled over to give me a hand.

SirenSays · 24/08/2021 16:02

I read all about rip tides and learned what to do, but the same thing happened to me! I was grateful for my body board as I absolutely exhausted myself swimming against the rip and I'm a strong swimmer. My problem was that we were positioned between the lifeguard flags and the lifeguards had been very clear they were only going to help people swimming between the flags. We were sucked out so far we couldn't even hear their megaphone and the only way I knew to get out of a rip, swim parallel to it, would have meant swimming out of the "safe" flagged area so I had no idea what to do I was in such a panic. I have no idea what happened but the rip seemed to suddenly disappear and we could finally swim back to the beach.

cleckheatonwanderer · 24/08/2021 16:23

Until a few weeks ago I would've said rip tides aren't really a thing on UK beaches which shows how ignorant I am. I only became aware from another Mumsnet thread.

Like a PP said we an Island nation we are just not educated properly about the dangers of water, whether it be the sea or cold water.

Glad you're ok OP and thanks for raising awareness.

Nocutenamesleft · 24/08/2021 16:31

My family have been lifeguards for generations. My father got something from the queen. (I want to say a commendation?!?) Because he managed to save 3 guys who got taken out on a under current.

I’ve known because of my family exactly how dangerous the sea is and as long as you have respect for it you’re ok

Sadly everyone doesn’t understand this. I see kids with body boards. Parents who aren’t watching. It’s frightening. Or even lilo or a rubber ring.

It can take literal seconds to be dragged out. The waves can pull someone under and out quickly. Places like Bondi beach. But even in the uk.

I live in a coastal town and see it often. It’s really genuinely scary how some people don’t seem to understand the water.

TheSockMonster · 24/08/2021 16:33

Thank you for sharing this Flowers

I thought I knew quite a bit about rip currents, but I’ve learnt something and it never hurts to be reminded of how dangerous the sea can be.

On the subject of float and wait for it to spit you out vs swim parallel, it turns out it depends what sort of rip current you are stuck in.

The (hopefully) attached diagram compares successful (green) and unsuccessful (red) escapes from different types of rip currents. Circulation rip currents return you to the shore whilst exit rip currents spit you out in the sea. Most won’t take you too far but some, particularly those that form in bays it would seem, could deposit you many hundreds of meters from the shore and on a part of the coastline with no beach.

TLDR: you can never guarantee you’ll be able to escape from a rip current, so stick to beaches with lifeguards.

AIBU - to say rip currents can get you in shallow water and body boards are actually quite dangerous
TheSockMonster · 24/08/2021 16:34

Looks like you have to click on the uploaded image to see all 4 scenarios

Tillylovestomatoes · 24/08/2021 16:39

Nocutenamesleft it was literally seconds because the currents can travel up to 2m per second. We went from leg height to neck height and beyond with no time to register what was happening. The speed is terrifying and I just don’t think people realise because I certainly didn’t. I thought you only needed to worry about rip currents if you were out deep. I didn’t know they could happen so shallow and thought we were safe by the shore x

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 24/08/2021 16:45

I thought I knew the basics about rip currents but the speed is news to me and also the fact that swimming parallel to the shore isn’t always as easy as it sounds if you are a long way out and disoriented.
Thanks op.

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