to support extinction rebellion - more London action tomorrow

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I am not sure what, but I have seen their previous demonstrations, and support their cause.

We were given badges at one event, and travelled home on public transport wearing them, and received absolutely nothing but 100% support from other travellers, which was nice, as I expected some hostility, publicly wearing their badges while roads in London were closed by them

This is so true
China are getting our hate while being literally a joke. made in China. on everything I ever saw as a child.

@Whinginadeville

Will you be flying in on your private jet and preventing the peasants getting to work? Do you live as carbon neutral a life as possible or does Ocado deliver every week? You can do and be far more effective than this if you want to be the change.

why is having supermarket deliveries seen as the opposite of a low carbon life style? It is far better to have one delivery van out instead of numerous cars going to the supermarket

What do you suggest which is more effective than demonstrations?

@lannistunut

I support their objectives and I support the principle of disruption, but I think occasionally their protests could do with more thought.

The abuse they get is exactly what suffragettes got, that is the whole point of disruption - to disrupt.

Clearly on the environment they are right, there is a crisis, we are not doing enough.

thank you for your input

can you give an example of what you mean by more thought?

Bunch of dumbos. The City is practically empty at the moment with August holidays and continued wfh for many. So they’ll be disrupting nobody really. Splendid bit of planning 😂

@Namechangeforthisbit

If you had spoken to them they would have transported you

How were they transporting people?

People should have to ask them, to get to a medical appointment. People should just be able to get to the medical appointment.

Love how, you totally ignored the huge amount of litter they left.

Whilst I agree that we need to do more to tackle climate change, I am not going to support them. They were gleeful, that they were stopping people getting to work. Many of whom were already financially struggling and losing a days wage would have a devastating blow. They are completely hypocritical.

They also seem to have no clue that some people NEED to get to work or can't pay their bills every day. People need to go to medical appointents.

They must be hugely privileged to not understand this.

They were transporting people to medical appointments in a variety of ways.

The litter around them was mostly being thrown at them, not coming from them

Some are middle class, many are not

why would anyone need to be "transported"
surely people shouldn't be stopped from going about their business.
these people seem to think they are very important,.
Like to see this banned.

Alterative take op...
I experienced their protests in London in October 2019. I had a panic attack because I couldn't travel across Central London. I can't use the tube due to health issues/disabilities. They stopped the busses working.

I also saw them stop normal Londoners get to work. Massively lacking in an intersectionql approach.

Also iny experience it's full of massively privlidged people as an organisation.

Bit embarrassing for you tbh.

If they actually cared they'd protest outside parliament or if they absolutely had to employ disruption they should protest to disrupt parliament.

Instead they'll stop lots of normal people getting to work and give KFC lots of extra business that day.

@Whattheflecker

Reading the responses on here, our kids are totally fucked aren't they 😞

An interesting point that ignores that the current system is driven by a throw away ideology that allows children to have every new technology that they want.

@NantesElephant

Good for them. I support their actions, and the more disruptive the better if it wakes people up. The disruption will be nothing compared to what runaway climate change will bring.

It doesn't wake people up, it just pisses them off.

Interesting isn’t it that the comments do not match the pole.

Me thinks there is some sock puppetry going on on this thread.

@Flatdisco

Alterative take op... I experienced their protests in London in October 2019. I had a panic attack because I couldn't travel across Central London. I can't use the tube due to health issues/disabilities. They stopped the busses working.

I also saw them stop normal Londoners get to work. Massively lacking in an intersectionql approach.

Also iny experience it's full of massively privlidged people as an organisation.

Bit embarrassing for you tbh.

Gah sorry for the typo!

@LoislovesStewie

I suggest that everyone who supports extinction rebellion goes back to a 1950s lifestyle. No central heating, no technology, no replacing clothes until they are really worn out, in fact buy nothing until the item is kaput, walk or use a bike to get around, no car, no foreign holidays, no 'gap years' travelling to exotic places, don't buy a coffee on your way to work (because of the rubbish created), no food that isn't produced locally, (so bang goes the quinoa then). Have I made my point ! Thought not.

well, we dont replace clothes unless they are worn out, and we recycle the old material

We don't replace anything unless necessary

We don't have foreign holiday, we do walk/cycle or use public transport, we don't buy coffee on the way to work, and we are conscious of where food originates

The strange thing about your post, is that you seem to be implying this is an unlikely extreme, rather than normal decisions made by normal people these days, for environmental reasons -

so I am inferring you do not make these decisions yourself?

Can you justify that?

As for central heating, I am sure you are aware this is already a big political debate, and is likely to be phased out of new builds in the near future

@DoTheNextRightThing

I support the cause of raising awareness of climate change and trying to get the government to do something. I don’t support them. Normally I'm all for protest groups but the amount of chaos they cause is just ridiculous. They can bugger off.

you support protest but not if it causes disruption? How is that supporting protest ?

They protested in our city by stopping traffic every 6 mins for several weekends in a row. It was miserable and just made people pissed off. They could have spent their time lobbying for better cycle routes but that obviously is too bureaucratic and they don't get to don their weekend protestor clothes.

@Theluggage15

Bunch of middle class twats. Overwhelmingly white little cult it is too. The U.K. is responsible for 1% of global carbon emissions, why don’t they protest somewhere like China and see how that goes down.

Exactly, or even better the US which has highest carbon footprint per capita in the world, 2x that of China’s per capita footprint.

I think it’s hilarious how they are out to raise awareness when everyone is aware already and really they don’t need to increase their carbon footprint and that of thousands of others by blocking roads, gluing themselves to trains, vandalising buildings and then leaving their disposable coffee cups and rubbish everywhere. They should be taking a leaf from Ghandis book and leading by example.

@Terhou

Oh and because I couldn't get to my appointment because they were blocking Oxford Circus I had to dump my car and power walk for 20 mins and ended up having a medical emergency with my blood sugar.

Most people subject to that sort of problem have something sugary with them at all times to avert emergencies.

So blaming the poster for the problem that XR caused.

@KonTikki

The two walkers who tried to stop the electric tube train, got pulled off the roof by exasperated workers and given a good kicking was one of my TV highlights last year.

you enjoy seeing people hurt for non violent protest?

[quote EatYourVegetables]YANBU. Thank you for supporting them in any way you can. I am too scared to go to a protest but am donating money. They are bringing attention to an urgent crisis, and the disruption they bring is nothing - nothing - compared to what the world will look like if we stay on the current path. The current plan to deal with it seems to be “bury your head in the sand, do creative carbon accounting, and complain that the others are not doing anything either”.

Some links:
Half the world children is in extreme danger: www.unicef.org/press-releases/one-billion-children-extremely-high-risk-impacts-climate-crisis-unicef

What “the adults in the room” are doing: news.sky.com/story/greta-thunberg-says-claims-that-uk-is-a-climate-leader-are-a-lie-as-unicef-report-finds-1-billion-children-at-high-risk-from-climate-impacts-12385672

What is happening: xkcd.com/1732/[/quote]
Thank you - I will look into these links xx

@Nitgel

Extinction Rebellion to me seem a bit useless. They only seem to appear now and then to jolly through london as if on a lovely day trip then they piss off again and you never hear from them. Remind me of the middle class ravers of the 90s and new age travellers.

They are active all of the time, they are not protesting in London all of the time

So blaming the poster for the problem that XR caused.

Well, no, you can't blame XR for problems that are caused by simple lack of basic care. Issues with public transport notoriously can arise at any time if you are travelling in London - trains get cancelled, traffic jams happen for all sorts of reasons. It's just daft not to take simple precautions like carrying sugar if you know you have a medical condition that might be exacerbated if there is a delay of this type.

I'm sure that when they marched through my town and spray painted a building it made an enormous impact on the environment.

@Wrongsideofhistorymyarse

I'm sure that when they marched through my town and spray painted a building it made an enormous impact on the environment.

I also quite liked the irony of XR painting things in London, or in some cases literally pouring tins of paint all over the floor. I mean, what is the rational behind purposely polluting the environment while telling other people not to.

@SmileyClare

We travelled on public transport wearing badges and received nothing but 100% support from other travellers*

What did the "support" look like? Most London commuters barely make eye contact, I can't imagine all the other passengers cheering their support, admiring your badges and so on.

I didn't think that would happen either, but so many people said they supported the protest and thanked us.

Not one single negative comment all the way - which surprised me, because I expected hostility

I dislike their name “Extinction Rebellion” because extinction is not imminent. They know that. But they run around doomsaying and I’m sure in 20yrs they’ll claim credit for “averting extinction” and demand to be added to the history books as heros.