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To think this isn’t good enough

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User5827372728 · 18/08/2021 18:16

Bristol had pledged to find housing for…

www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/afghanistan-bristol-south-gloucestershire-councils-5803237

10 families…. How is that good enough? 10?!!!!

OP posts:
lughnasadh · 18/08/2021 18:17

There's a housing crisis.

Fiddliestofsticks · 18/08/2021 18:18

They'll settle more if the government provides more funding.
Where do you think the councils are going to magic this money from? They're not going to just commit to a few hundred people without hitting the government up for more money first. It's pretty obvious.

TheWayTheLightFalls · 18/08/2021 18:18

How many areas/regions are there in the country/UK, all in? How many would we be able to take in if each took 10? Are there any underpopulated areas that could take more?

10 is better than zero imo.

ScrumptiousBears · 18/08/2021 18:19

How many towns in total have pledged In the UK? That will be a lot of people overall it all adds up.

Fiddliestofsticks · 18/08/2021 18:22

Ten families, let's say 40 people then.
There are what.. 330ish councils in the UK. If they all housed 40ish people that's between 13 and 24 thousand people.
The UK have pledge to take 20,000.

That's about right.

They'll take more if they get more funding for housing. But we have a housing crisis. Families in the UK are still living in cramped, temporary accommodation. We are not the land of oz with everything wonderful and magical. People here are struggling, homeless, stuck in awful temp accommodation.

We must take refugees. We must help. But you cannot put hundreds onto one council and say "get on with it".

Fiddliestofsticks · 18/08/2021 18:23

*between 13 and 14 thousand.

sjxoxo · 18/08/2021 18:23

I agree it’s a pitiful number- not the councils fault but the government who do not give a s* about the current housing crisis or most families who struggle for a place to live. It saddens me that people have actually voted for that approach & mentality xo

CorrBlimeyGG · 18/08/2021 18:26

They've said they will offer more once the government commit more funding. The problem is that many councils got stung by the government's promise to cover their covid spending, which never fully materialised. As a result, many councils are now near bankrupt. We need the government to step up and get the funding to the regions as a matter of urgency.

User5827372728 · 18/08/2021 19:18

10 families is a shockingly low amount for a huge city! We can do better than that, we should do better than that.

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CabbagesGreen · 18/08/2021 19:20

"Mayor Marvin Rees said the city will be able to resettle more if the Government provides more funding"

Seems fair enough.

CabbagesGreen · 18/08/2021 19:27

How many spare houses are there in Bristol? Are there many? Do they have student houses they could use to start with? (Although I guess with the above average grades they'll be full too).

ThePluckOfTheCoward · 18/08/2021 19:32

Yeah that is pretty poor. Kent on the other hand has been dealing with thousand of illegal immigrants for years with hardly any financial help from the government. It's a disgrace.

CabbagesGreen · 18/08/2021 19:32

@ThePluckOfTheCoward

Yeah that is pretty poor. Kent on the other hand has been dealing with thousand of illegal immigrants for years with hardly any financial help from the government. It's a disgrace.
It is the Government should help out Kent
pinkcircustop · 18/08/2021 19:35

The problem is that anyone we take will be a drop in the ocean for the 37million, yet for us will be a massive issue considering we’re already in a housing crisis not to mention healthcare, schools etc.

SpaceBethSmith · 18/08/2021 19:35

There is no housing.

There are 50+ people calling up about private rentals in my area within 24 hours. This in turn is making the council list explode. Despite earning 32K, having 3 months rent up front, and having glowing reference, I’m likely going to end up in temp accom with my DCs.

I just can’t figure out what the fuck is going on in housing right now, renting, buying it’s all gone insane.

User5827372728 · 18/08/2021 19:37

Well they created a huge nightingale hospital that was never used..!! That could be a temporary accommodation.

Students are learning online… they could stay home and uni accommodation used.

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pinkcircustop · 18/08/2021 20:36

You are naive to the incredibly huge problems this influx will cause, OP. It’s really not as simple as temporary housing as many as possible = problem solved.

We need to think about the long term ramifications and the strain this will put on our own resources.

Fiddliestofsticks · 18/08/2021 20:50

@User5827372728

Sticking people into a giant room like the nightingale hospitals would be no different from a refugee camp. In that sort of housing situation, basically a massive room with what would be little better than cubicles, you are then faced with all the negatives of a refugee camp. Crime, sexual assault, harassment, poor hygiene etc. That would not be a solution. Warehousing people for God knows how long is not an answer.

MrsTerryPratchett · 18/08/2021 20:54

www.standard.co.uk/news/london/lights-out-london-street-where-7-in-10-houses-are-second-homes-10249301.html

How's about we stop foreign billionaires banking their money in empty UK homes? The same Saudi billionaires I suspect had their fingers in the situation in Afghanistan.

There isn't a housing crisis as much as a privilege crisis. There are enough homes and resources if wankers didn't hoard them. And that's not Bristol Council's fault.

Fiddliestofsticks · 18/08/2021 20:55

And your other plan, kicking students out and sending them back home? Do you not think things through?

Should they all quit their jobs then, and move home and be supported by... who? Their parents, during a time where people are struggling financially more than ever? What if they dont have a bedroom to go back to? What if they dont have a home to go back to at all? What if their home life was abusive? Just gonna kick them out?

Apply some critical thinking. You're ignoring what has been said and just banging on about doing more.

The UK is dealing with immigrants streaming in every single day. We cannot house the people already here. We cannot even give enough support to low income families, disabled people, elderly people in need of care. We dont have an endless pit of resources.

There is only so much once country can do. A failed state is awful. Those people deserve better. But the UK cannot offer enough to fix it. It just isnt possible.

Taking in 20,000 is quite possibly the best we can do.

MichelleScarn · 18/08/2021 20:58

Students are learning online… they could stay home and uni accommodation used
What forever?

TheSkatesOfCoachBombay · 18/08/2021 21:02

10 families seems ok given the size of the LA to be honest.

I mean these families will spend like 6 years in NASS accommodation whilst all their paperwork, NI numbers, and immigration status gets sorted so they probably won't be housed in LA housing till 2025/26. Given how limited social housing is today across the country housing 10 families is ok, not great no I agree but ok.

CabbagesGreen · 18/08/2021 21:13

The kids will need schools too so they have to make sure they only take on what they can provide for, otherwise what's the point. Maybe their schools are oversubscribed?

sjxoxo · 18/08/2021 21:21

@MrsTerryPratchett totally agree with you- people saying everyone is overstretched - not true.. it’s the majority of us that are overstretched in resources, there are growing numbers of very wealthy people who could contribute far far more, and these people are very well served by governments like our current one. Public spending priorities are decisions that are taken- it’s a choice that this government makes to not fund our councils & use increasing amounts of private contractors in public services, Limiting the housing available and forcing up prices is another great way to keep some people wealthy. These are all policy choices. Housing for people and housing for refugees could be dramatically improved by the government choosing to fund councils. They have cut council funding by over 50% in the last ten years.. it’s an insane amount.

CabbagesGreen · 18/08/2021 21:53

Daily Fail reporting that Bristol Uni might have to house some of their students in Bath. I don't know how near that is but suggests there isn't much empty student housing to use either.