To not want to give my 13 year old the moderna vaccination

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I am normally pro- vaccination and I am double vaxxed myself. I had the moderna jab too and had a dreadful reaction to the 2nd jab- I was ill for 10 days and off work.

I see that Moderna has been approved for 12 -18 year olds but I really don’t want my 13 year old to have it, especially after the nasty reaction I had to it. I don’t think that I want my teenager to have any of the covid jabs actually and I am surprised that I feel this way. I think it’s because I was so ill- it’s made me really worried.

Aibu? My kids are both fully vaxxed with all their childhood jabs so I am surprised at myself for feeling so strongly about this.

@Toty precisely that! There is pretty much a zero risk to under 18’s of a serious covid illness. As we now know the vaccines don’t stop spread and that all vulnerable and elderly people have had the opportunity to be vaccinated to protect themselves, there is zero argument for vaccinating teens or children and no benefit over risk either.
People really need to stop being so fearful and start looking at the hard data.

YANBU to have worries. However my 19 year old dd was floored for a couple of days by her vaccine. A couple of months after her 2nd dose almost all her class at college including herself caught covid. She had no symptoms, the rest of her classmates were really poorly and some are still suffering.

Ultimately the decision should be your daughter's. You can discuss the issues with her but as long as she hs sufficient understanding, it's up to her.

What does your child want? Vaccination isn’t currently offered routinely to that age group but I expect the risk / benefit may change if we experience a lot more cases in Autumn and if it’s disrupting schooling again, so the advice may well change.
Like any other medical procedure it would be a decision for your child to make with advice from medical staff and family, but ultimately at that age they have capacity to consent even if you disagree (assuming neurotypical, no significant learning difficulties).

all her class at college including herself caught covid. She had no symptoms, the rest of her classmates were really poorly

Bollocks. All of her class were really poorly? BS

One girl who was single vaxxed had a what felt like a bad cold. And when I say all of her class I guess I exaggerated. Approx 24 out of 28 students caught it.

DH had moderna - he was fine after the first, and had a day off work feeling rough / hungover after the second. His whole family didn’t get vaccinated and are currently having to isolate, really miserable with COVID right now including his siblings in their 20s so it was a small price to pay.

Actually I re-read my post and I said almost all of her class so I was correct.

Its her choice as far as I doubt the drs will pin her down and jab her if she withdraws her consent and u have given consent.

That doesn't mean she can decide when the information isn't even really ther fir anyone to make an informed choice.

We have no long term.data. that's a fact. If an adults happy with that then fine go bath in every covid vaccine you can lay your hands on. But given the lack of interest in the menstrual issues cropping up, and the new reports of myocarditis its a much bigger decision for a child and I dont blame you for being wary.i also know someone qho had a bad reaction to the vaccine. Tbe other member if the household also had civid but was a symptomatic. The vaccine was definitely the worse of the 2 there.

Just so you know op not all of us will scream at you for being a murdering bastard and we do respect the fact its a decision you have a right to make either way and I'd not want to live in a country where we don't have the right to consent or refuse treatment.

My husband had his 2nd moderna on Saturday. He had a sore arm for a day and was absolutely fine.
Your child may not react the same way as you.

My kids won't be having it if / when it's offered. It's up to you and your dd op. Not everyone else.

On what basis does someone think a 13 year old child knows how to make a risk benefit analysis of whether to get the Covid vaccine or notconfused. It most certainly is a decision a parent should make. Give me strength

The kids I know make more sense than the anti-vax idiots on here and elsewhere. They understand the issues. I know 2 16 year olds who have got the vaccine against the wishes of their parents.

I'll leave it up to DD. She won't like it, but I think she'll do it to protect her CEV brother. She's choosing to still wear a mask.

The kids I know make more sense than the anti-vax idiots on here and elsewhere. They understand the issues. I know 2 16 year olds who have got the vaccine against the wishes of their parents.

Lol, the anti vaccine idiot slur. You forgot far right /covid denier, and everything else that goes alongside that. It helps strengthen your argument...

Personally I prefer to look at the data and make a decision based on that. But everyone is different aren't they. ☺️

I just asked DD and she said "Yee. Gimme that."

1. Its not being offered yet
2. How nasty was the reaction? Life threatening? Did you end up in hospital? In any case, reactions do seem to be random.
3. While I agree at thirteen, parents can overrule children but I'd say that it really should be mainly her decision either way....and i say this as a definite pro vaxxer.

last thing is that I am one of those folk who can get unpleasant reactions to vaccinations...flat on my back in bed ill....but I do still get them because its what is best for me. mostly though its fine and I get no more than a sore arm.

The vaccine isn’t currently being offered routinely to 13 year olds in this country so you can cross that bridge if/when you come to it.

Although I think it’s important to understand that vaccines are for the protection of both individual and society, not just the individual. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. For example, the HPV vaccine - its primary purpose for the prevention of cervical cancer (admittedly it helps prevent some rare mouth cancers too) - but we give it to all boys. I personally think saying you don’t want your teenager to have the Covid vaccine to protect other people is like the parents of teenage boys saying ‘I don’t want him to have the HPV vaccine because he won’t get cervical cancer and I don’t see why he should have it to protect the girls he shags in future, they should be vaccinated if they want protection.’ Maybe parents of boys do apply the same logic to the HPV vaccine, I have no idea.

@Qwerty789

On what basis does someone think a 13 year old child knows how to make a risk benefit analysis of whether to get the Covid vaccine or notconfused. It most certainly is a decision a parent should make. Give me strength

The kids I know make more sense than the anti-vax idiots on here and elsewhere. They understand the issues. I know 2 16 year olds who have got the vaccine against the wishes of their parents.

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It’s interesting to see how the narrative is going.

Get a vaccine that in all likelihood you don’t actually need and won’t be of benefit to you - good, moral, intelligent person.

Decline it - stupid, bad, anti vax.

This point has been made before but unless I am mistaken anti vaxxers in the colloquial term are against vaccinations - all vaccinations. They believe they are filled with harmful things that shouldn’t be put in our bodies.

That stance is worlds apart from declining a vaccine which has no benefit to you (for example, if I don’t get the yellow fever vaccine because I have no plans to travel to Africa, this does not make me an anti vaxxer.) I have never told anyone not to get a vaccination themselves or suggested they should hesitate to have their child vaccinated.

But the pro vax (if you like) response is that vaccine damage does not happen, it is a lie, or that because it constitutes such a small group of people they don’t matter.

I believe vaccinations are important. I also believe vaccine damage happens. Those two stances aren’t mutually exclusive.

It simply means that where my children are concerned I will get them a vaccination if it protects them from a harmful disease. I am happy for DS to have the chickenpox vaccine, as I do not want him to have chickenpox, even though I will have to pay for this. I am less happy for him to have the flu jab because that is not for his direct benefit.

Mentioning MMR is akin to a red rag to a bull on here but I also feel that’s murky ethically. Measles and mumps, sure. Rubella is dangerous as we know to pregnant women. Given that children are vaccinated at around age one the rubella vaccine obviously isn’t for their direct benefit. When I was at school in the dark ages girls were vaccinated for rubella at around year 9, I think. Clearly, only females can get pregnant so vaccinating baby boys for rubella isn’t going to benefit them.

So it is for the greater good if you like. But as I have said, that’s a rather dubious moral stance when talking about a child having a vaccine with risks (as all vaccines do) with no benefit to the child.

I feel the same and am double jabbed. My teen son won't be getting his if offered tho unless he really wants to but he's not fussed anyway.

I don’t want him to have the HPV vaccine because he won’t get cervical cancer and I don’t see why he should have it to protect the girls he shags in future, they should be vaccinated if they want protection.’ Maybe parents of boys do apply the same logic to the HPV vaccine, I have no idea

Just stop with the emotional blackmail.

We have alot more data to go on for the hpv vaccine. It wasn't approved for use in kids like 2 weeks ago.

Isnt still on emergency approval for the adults with an ever extending list of side effects fir the yellow card system.

I personally think saying you don’t want your teenager to have the Covid vaccine to protect other people is like the parents of teenage boys saying ‘I don’t want him to have the HPV vaccine because he won’t get cervical cancer and I don’t see why he should have it to protect the girls he shags in future, they should be vaccinated if they want protection.’

You're wrong. The HPV vaccines prevents penile, throat, mouth and head cancers in boys. There are definite tangible benefits to boys. Yes it also helps protect their future sexual partners which is great, however the reason I consented for my teenage boy to have the HPV vaccine was largely due to the benefits to him. Plus as pp said, it's been in use for almost 2 decades and there is a wealth of safety data available, unlike the currently unlicensed covid vaccines.

Yanbu.
I had the Moderna jab and has no adverse reactions to both, my hands were just a bit sore for a few days.
I’ve always had my jab and even take the flu jab through work annually however, I don’t think I’ll be getting my kids vaccinated when the time comes. I’ll wait until such time when these have been tested well on children.
Luckily, they’re 2 and 8 so I don’t need to worry about that now.

I’ll wait until such time when these have been tested well on children

Heh, this made me properly laugh. Other people's kids are ok, just not your own

Imagine if everyone took that approach.

@gamerchick

I’ll wait until such time when these have been tested well on children

Heh, this made me properly laugh. Other people's kids are ok, just not your own

Imagine if everyone took that approach.

Then kids wouldn't be getting a vaccination they don't particularly need. I wouldn't lose much sleep over it tbh

Yanbu, I have been vaccinated but my 14 year son will not be having it, why do young teenagers need it if they do not suffer the worst symptoms of this virus and it doesn't prevent spread. I wouldn't be surprised if the Government suddenly decides to make it compulsory for young teens to have it to be able to attend school.