Lying to friends about degree classification

[doctormusic]

DS 21 got a 2:2 in his degree, he's recently been messaging some old friends from school, they've asked him about what he got in his degree. DS is a bit embarrassed about getting a 2:2 as everyone who he went to school with and on his course have been posting on Facebook how they have got 1st's and 2:1's. DS didn't know what whether to lie and say he got a 2:1 but said that he morally thinks it's wrong and it's not a good habit to start telling lies. DH has told DS that he's blowing it out of proportion, he can say he got a 2:1 if he wants to but he should not feel embarrassed in any way of getting a 2:2 and these friends he hasn't seen in at least 2 years and it really doesn't matter.

Is this something which DS has blown out of proportion?

@doctormusic

DS is disappointed in his result, he still has got on to the course he wanted to do with a 2:2 but seeing most people on his course get a good honours degree made him feel like he wished he could turn back the clock and do everything he could to get at least a 2:1.

So he can say

"I got a,2.2 but still got a place on xxxx course to do xxxx which is what I always wanted so I am so happy "

So 2.2 really does not matters how many of his 2 1 friends are moving on to what they want uo do?

Don't lie on social media. It will come back to bite you.

At least not aBout a qualification which employers will check

@doctormusic

DS is disappointed in his result, he still has got on to the course he wanted to do with a 2:2 but seeing most people on his course get a good honours degree made him feel like he wished he could turn back the clock and do everything he could to get at least a 2:1.

In a couple of years time it will be of no more significance than his GCSE results or his KS3 levels. What's important now is the next set of exams.

The snobbery on this thread

I think unless you’ve had your whole academic life turned on it’s head by lockdown and learning online, you don’t get an opinion on whether a 2:2 is shit or not.

There’s people on my course who are academically gifted and can churn out A* essays no bother at all but our course is mostly based on a practice element (which didn’t go ahead) and these people will therefore be lacking in the skills needed to get a job once qualified.

I was flying high last year, on track for a high 2:1, possibly a 1st if I really applied myself and now, thanks to Covid and online learning, which for the most part has been wholly inadequate and incredibly inconsistent, I am now looking at a 2:2. But as I have years of experience in the field, I’m not worried about gaining employment once I graduate.

I don’t think your son should lie because it’s no ones business, he got onto his course and that’s all that matters.

And for what it’s worth, we’ve been told on numerous occasions that our degree classification really doesn’t matter and won’t be asked for at interview, it’s our real life skills that will matter once on the job.

He should tell them the truth. It really doesn’t matter but it will backfire if he’s found out. Also, his friends are arses if they react poorly.

@Happycow37

The snobbery on this thread

I think unless you’ve had your whole academic life turned on it’s head by lockdown and learning online, you don’t get an opinion on whether a 2:2 is shit or not.

There’s people on my course who are academically gifted and can churn out A* essays no bother at all but our course is mostly based on a practice element (which didn’t go ahead) and these people will therefore be lacking in the skills needed to get a job once qualified.

I was flying high last year, on track for a high 2:1, possibly a 1st if I really applied myself and now, thanks to Covid and online learning, which for the most part has been wholly inadequate and incredibly inconsistent, I am now looking at a 2:2. But as I have years of experience in the field, I’m not worried about gaining employment once I graduate.

I don’t think your son should lie because it’s no ones business, he got onto his course and that’s all that matters.

And for what it’s worth, we’ve been told on numerous occasions that our degree classification really doesn’t matter and won’t be asked for at interview, it’s our real life skills that will matter once on the job.

This, 100%. I’ve been in my field for 12 years and no one has once asked what I got in my degree or whether I went to university.

@Embracelife

Don't lie on social media. It will come back to bite you.

This. Employers may well check social media, and lying about your degree classification is an extremely serious matter. And it's a small world - you can't be 100% sure that at some point one of these old friends won't crop up in a work context.

Tbh employers considering all 2.1 good vs 2.2 bad is ridiculous.
Dp has 2.1 at what was a poly.
Ive a 2.2 at a uni. Different subjects different requirements to get in. Different numbers on course around 50-200. The standards were completely different. (And im sure mine vs oxbridge).

Anyway my 2.2 came after i was very ill and only sat 50% of finals and missed the last few weeks before exams too. Im not sure i would have done better however i was very ill so could have done even worse.

I dont think he should lie ive had coursemates at same company etc.
It's annoying it's so important to employers. And stupid really as i didnt get into company as grad scheme nor via interview (im useless at them) but ended up asa temp and was taken permanent within a yr and within around 2yrs was grad level anyway. Without needing to pretend to do stuff i cant do.
Other temps were similar and progressed right up.

Too much value is put on interviews though.