To wonder if people like David Cameron ever feel shame?

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I dont think he does

If there is such a site as “oldEtoniansnet” does the team think any former pupil ever post a “AIBU” thread on it?

I don't care if DC feels remorse or shame, but I'd like him to feel embarrassment. What a fool he makes himself (& us) look.

AIBU To wonder if people like David Cameron ever feel shame?

Don't be ridiculous - of course he doesn't, it all comes with the privilege, and it's been bred into him.

If he had a moral compass he wouldn't behave like this, but morals are an amusing pastime for the oiks, not for the likes of him.

I should imagine he’s angry at having his actions exposed, and resentful that he didn’t get to earn even more.
Entitlement arrogance and greed, since he’s already hugely wealthy.
He was happy to impose austerity policies on vulnerable people whilst plotting to make huge sums of money for himself.

I think they are oblivious to shame and guilt. Wish I was the same sometimes but I am not! I am however embarrased for them for they are deplorable human beings.I can find nothing nice at all about Cameron or Blair.How they convince themselves they are decent humans I cannot fathom.

@GreatAuntEmily

I think he will be blanking himself. If there's corruption surely he could go to jail. He is in deep doodoo - I hope he doesn't weasel his way out of it.

Yes I was going to ask if he just gets away with it and there are no legal consequences? Does it depend on whether insurers cover the (substantial) sums that investors have lost?

I didn't think I could detest him more for allowing Brexit to happen but it appears I was wrong... .

@Miniestelle

A great deal of the wealth of the Cameron's comes from the slave trade and the subsequent compensation payment made to them when slavery was abolished.

The governent borrowed the money to pay the compensation. A huge debt that I believe was only settled by the UK government in the last few years.

His family will not be the only one to benefit from slavery though. The Royal family benefitted too, which no one seems to want to talk about.

@notimagain

As *@Miniestelle* said:

“ Ive come to the conclusion that elites like David Cameron, Johnson etc.. are bred with a sense of certainty that they will rule and have great power. To enable this to happen they must also have great confidence and self belief ”

Yep, from the handful I’ve seen close up they usually come with, on the surface at least, a massive amount of self confidence/self belief, and that in itself is seen (rightly or wrongly) as an asset in many lines of work…..

Yes. My DH attended a leading public school (not Eton) for a few years. He said there was a prevailing philosophy of "transgressions are fine as long as you don't get caught". You can see the same behaviour in Boris now. Cameron just did a slightly better job of covering up his true nature until now.

The father of a disabled child who savaged every scrap of support for disabled people and their families and made their difficult lives infinitely harder. If that didn't force him to feel empathy, nothing ever will.

He was happy to impose austerity policies on vulnerable people whilst plotting to make huge sums of money for himself

Not just Cameron. The likes of Rees-Mogg and others are carefully keeping huge assets in offshore tax havens whilst preaching to the rest of us.
Unfortunately it's not an isolated case and laws aren't going to change when it's benefiting those who make them!

I think Cameron knows he fucked up, yes.

And Blair does too. Blair donated all the money from the royalties of his autobiography to the Royal Brititsh Legion. If thats not guilt I don't know what is. But no-one gives him credit for that.

The Royal family benefitted too, which no one seems to want to talk about.

Really? This isn't the impression I get.

@VladmirsPoutine

The Royal family benefitted too, which no one seems to want to talk about.

Really? This isn't the impression I get.

The attitude on Mn is provokingly forelock-tugging. Any suggestion of dismantling the RF for an elected HoS brings cries of ‘Imagine a President Putin/Trump/Johnson!’ which suggests zero knowledge of how a ceremonial elected HoS differs from an executive PM or president (like France or the US). And there’s a lot of head wagging about the ‘sacrifices ‘ for duty of the RF.

This explains everything I know it has already been posted, but in case anyone missed it. Brilliant article.

He always came across as a bit dim. I don’t think he’d be capable of having complex feelings like shame.

Interesting concept. Blair, Brown, May, Cameron, Johnson. What a wretched lot, all voted for by the Great British public.

The attitude on Mn is provokingly forelock-tugging.
Not just about the Royals - people keep on spouting this bollocks about us "having to pay the debt" for covid etc - no-one seems to notice that cunts like Cameron and Boris (and Tony Blair before some tedious twat says it) won't be the ones paying.

No he doesn't. He's just as corrupt as our current government, it was just his bad luck that Greensill was doomed to fail. Serves him right to be outede this publicly.

What is telling though wrt the Royal Family, when someone suggests the whole thing should be abolished people treat the suggestion as though it's an extreme radical idea, as though you've just suggested that a fun game to play with toddlers is putting a blindfold on them and letting them run across the motorway and the toddler that gets across in one piece wins the game

Interesting concept. Blair, Brown, May, Cameron, Johnson. What a wretched lot, all voted for by the Great British public

I definitely wouldn't include Theresa May in your list.

Nope. He's surrounded by people with the same values and will justify anything he does I would imagine. He has morals, I'm sure, just not the same morals as the rest of us.

I think if he does, the £10million he earnt from dodgy dealings probably helps soothe the burn.

The father of a disabled child who savaged every scrap of support for disabled people and their families and made their difficult lives infinitely harder. If that didn't force him to feel empathy, nothing ever will.

Too right. He sat in waiting rooms in children’s outpatient clinics with the very people he screwed over. It’s not as if he never saw those people.

If there is such a site as “oldEtoniansnet” does the team think any former pupil ever post a “AIBU” thread on it?

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