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AIBU?

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What do you consider your nationality to be?

275 replies

AntiFlag · 07/08/2021 17:21

Do you think it’s where you’re born? Or your parentage? Or your grandparentage?

For example, if you were born in Scotland, but your mum was Russian and your dad Venezuelan, what would you class yourself as?

Someone I know says they’re Irish because they have an Irish grandparent, but how far do you got back? AIBU to think only a couple of generations defines your nationality? Or do you think it can be longer?

And how much does it mean to you? I’m generally curious, I live in a place where locals are very fierce about their roots and I am a bit of a mongrol from my heritage and it’s never really bothered me, I just say ‘British’ because I was born and live here.

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CounsellorTroi · 07/08/2021 19:42

Welsh.

Lucyccfc68 · 07/08/2021 19:43

English Dad, Welsh Mum - born in England - so I am English.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 07/08/2021 19:44

Scottish.

Born in Scotland. One Scots parent with centuries of Scots lineage, one English born parent but with Scots heritage.

No notion of being 'British' whatsoever, Couldn't care less what it says on my passport.

Funnylittlefloozie · 07/08/2021 19:45

I've got a British passport, but tbh i think of myself as English. There is a school of thought that says I cant be English as one of my parents is Indian, so I'm not white.. but I know what I feel like. I'm English.

Enko · 07/08/2021 19:45

I am Danish

Dh is British

our 4 children 3 are duel nationality 1 will make her life in Denmark so eventually will view herself Danish and 1 sees himself as British has no wish to even apply for duel nationality.

OhWhyNot · 07/08/2021 19:46

British

I was born here and one of my parents was born here

It isn’t the case of being here that has decided everyone’s nationality many have been born and raised here but they are not British nationals

SchrodingersImmigrant · 07/08/2021 19:47

@LunaBunaTuna

I had a conversation about this with a friend once and she believed that wherever a child is born is their nationality so if you gave birth on holiday in Spain for example, your child would be Spanish even if both parents are British/American whatever.

I didn’t agree with her but couldn’t articulate why. Maybe I’m wrong and that country has to issue a passport but I can’t imagine that would be the case.

You can't agree with her because it is wrong. For example, few people I know gave birth in UK. Their child had no right for british nationality so their nationality is one or both of parents'. Eg. Greek and Slovakian have a baby. They've both been in uk for 2 years, baby doesn't have eoght for beitiah nationality so the parents sort out eith Greek, or Slovakian, or both for the baby. Baby then doesn't have British nationality.

There is very few countries where birth, if both parents are foreigners, automatic entitles to nationality.

GiveMeAUserName123 · 07/08/2021 19:48

I’m English and don’t regard myself as British.

Do Scottish and Welsh people regard themselves as British? (That’s a genuine question by the way).

To me a British person who has two parents from different parts of the U.K., like one Scottish, one Irish etc.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 07/08/2021 19:49

As pps siad, nationality and ethnicity are different. So while I can get British nationality and passport, I would still not be British ethnically.

adawong · 07/08/2021 19:50

English.

santabetterwashhishands · 07/08/2021 19:50

British the same as my parents

Maggiesgirl · 07/08/2021 19:51

Scottish. Birn there, Mum Scots, Dad English.

amusedbush · 07/08/2021 19:52

I’m Scottish.

Both parents are Scottish, one has ties to NI and France from previous generations.

@GiveMeAUserName123 to answer your question, I do not consider myself to be British, regardless of what my passport says!

DinosaurDiana · 07/08/2021 19:52

British.
It annoys me that my DH days he’s Irish when his dad was born there and left when he was 18. DH was born here, as was his DM. He’s going to apply for an Irish passport 🙄

ghostyslovesheets · 07/08/2021 19:53

British (and European)

Mum English of Welsh heritage - Dad Irish - born in England

FloFlower · 07/08/2021 19:53

I consider myself British but I have Irish, German, Austrian and Italian heritage (if heritage is the correct word!)

lazylinguist · 07/08/2021 19:53

My ethnicity is half English half Czech and I’m damn proud of it too

That's interesting - I'm not proud of my nationality or ethnicity at all. Not because I'm ashamed of my country, but because it wouldn't really occur to me to be proud of my nationality or ethnicity, because I had zero input into what they were. I am British and English, by pure accident of parentage and birthplace.

AntiFlag · 07/08/2021 19:53

@RightYesButNo I think you’re probably right! I was going to report the thread and rewrote it but people answered too quickly so I’ve left it - I’m hoping that it’s understood what I mean (even if I don’t quite get it myself!). Must educate myself better on the topic Blush

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MrsFin · 07/08/2021 19:53

Welsh.
And I have the dna test to prove it Smile

Parkingt111 · 07/08/2021 19:54

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LadyJaye · 07/08/2021 19:54

White Scottish.

My paternal grandfather was Romanian and I have Ashkenazi Jewish heritage through his line, but by place of birth and 'naturalisation' (I was born in Scotland, my other grandparents and parents were Scottish, I was raised Church of Scotland), that's how I see myself.

I think it would be a bit odd to exclusively 'identify' with such a minor part of my heritage, particularly as neither my late father nor I ever knew my grandfather - all that we really know of him is through some ancestry tracing.

CheddarToldMeTo · 07/08/2021 19:55

Welsh. Born to English parents in Wales and lived in Wales until I went to school. Speak Welsh (because I wanted to, not because I was taught as a child) and if I could move back I would in a heartbeat but husband's job means it's not feasible. My soul feels happy when I'm there 😂

Violinist64 · 07/08/2021 19:56

@SenecaFallsRedux

Funny about America too. There are so many Americans that claim they are of some European heritage. They make a big deal out of it, even generations after any ancestor having emigrated

Yes, this is an important aspect of our culture. We are all hyphenated or double-barrelled Americans, European and many others, including, of course, Native Americans. I'm Scottish-American, Anglo-American, and Irish-American, but mostly Scottish, and I have a Scottish surname.

You are American with different ancestry. You are not Scottish; you have Scottish ancestry and a Scottish surname. It works all over the world but particularly in the UK. There are many English people with names like McDonald, Jones, Williams etc, who have never set foot in either Scotland or Wales and would have to go back centuries to find ancestors that actually lived there.
FindYourPorpoise · 07/08/2021 19:56

I would say my nationality is British and my ethnicity is Irish. I hold both passports but have never lived in Ireland.

AntiFlag · 07/08/2021 19:57

@CheddarToldMeTo Out of curiosity, do you have a Welsh accent? Or not because neither of your parents have a Welsh accent?

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