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Lighting fires at 4?

42 replies

Paperdolly · 05/08/2021 18:19

My GD’s nursery has been teaching my 4 year old how to light fires with a metal implement to make sparks. AIBU to think this is not an appropriate age for fire starting 😱

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OzziePopPop · 05/08/2021 19:17

My DH teaches his Beavers firefighting from age 6 when they can start. Fire safety is absolutely the first lesson and there is a zero tolerance attitude to messing about. It’s extremely popular, his Beaver group is massively oversubscribed.

As long as it’s properly done and well supervised it’s a nonissue.

OzziePopPop · 05/08/2021 19:17

Fire lighting ^^ 😂

bloodywhitecat · 05/08/2021 19:19

I think it is a wonderful life skill if it is taught safely.

moita · 05/08/2021 19:21

My son's pre school taught him at 4. All well supervised. I keep matches when he can't get them...he's not a firestarter...yet

ODFOx · 05/08/2021 19:22

From a risk assessment point of view the striking of flints is nowhere near as risky as the use of hatchets and they let nursery kids use those! It's a really engaging activity and quite safe as long as it is taught and supervised properly.
Forest schools are fab!

orangeblosssom · 05/08/2021 19:23

Normal to learn this skill in Scandinavian schools at this age.

Killahangilion · 05/08/2021 19:23

Fuck me , that’s bonkers! Is this some trendy new teaching theory??

There are lots of very useful things to teach a 4yr old but starting fires comes right down at the bottom of the last page of the list. 🤦🏻‍♀️

Ideasplease322 · 05/08/2021 19:24

That sounds wonderful! Lucky child.

3scape · 05/08/2021 19:29

That sounds great fun. I've been showing my kids since I've taken them camping one of them 11 weeks but it was a very stable not too hot not too cold weekend, though I doubt she paid attention then. Another 5 -10 years and they'll be pitching tents and lighting fires whilst you sit down with a cold drink Wine

topcat2014 · 05/08/2021 19:34

We do this with beavers who are 5 3/4 plus

liveforsummer · 05/08/2021 19:40

Totally appropriate and normal in many settings. Even DD's city centre nursery did this. It's not just for forest schools.

ZenNudist · 05/08/2021 19:42

My two have been in wood school all week as its the holidays and have done this since reception age. So they've come home with the usual range of sharpened sticks and ds (10) was allowed to build and start the fire as they are the oldest and most experienced at it.

I don't see any problem with it. It's not like they are telling them to go play with matches. They are using sparks. Your dc won't have access to this normally will they?

Formaldeheidi · 05/08/2021 19:45

Absolutely fine. It’s part of a forest school approach I would expect. They use steels to light tiny fires, they’re taught how to do it and supervised throughout. It helps children respect dangerous aspects of life (fire/sharp tools) and shows them how to navigate them safely - supported risks. Not to mention it’s advantageous for hand eye coordination, listening and communications skills, following instructions etc. It’s a brilliant way for kids to learn and thankfully much more widely accepted than it used to be. Scandinavian countries have been teaching their kids like this for 100s years.

Paperdolly · 06/08/2021 12:58

I feel more reassured now that it’s OK. Thanks all for your responses. 👍🏻

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liveforsummer · 06/08/2021 15:52

Why would you trust strangers on the internet over the people who have been employed and entrusted to care for your GC. Why not raise your concerns with them and they'll explain their reasoning and safety procedures. Here the staff have to have specific fire training.

PineappleWilson · 06/08/2021 16:04

Presumably your DD / DS and their partner knew what the nursery would offer when they signed their DD up. Have you expressed your concerns to them so they can reassure you that they've made an appropriate childcare choice?

sanityisamyth · 06/08/2021 17:09

Sounds fine as long as it's safe and controlled.

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