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For thinking of cutting MIL out of our children’s lives

26 replies

Pheobe2020 · 01/08/2021 23:29

Hi so me and my partner have been together for over 10 years , we’ve got two children who are both under ten. Anyway to cut a long story short mother in law has rarely bothered with them besides the first day they was born, seemed like a novelty that just wore off.

I think the last time she saw our children in person was nearly a year ago, she lives 15-20 minutes down the road. We have drove up to see her many times but I said to my partner that it was time she started making an effort, she drives but has poor health so doesn’t work. However , I know she often visits her other grandkids , from both of her daughters , and I feel like she spends much more time with them and favours them.

The only contact we get is that she comments on my social media pictures , and sends money occasionally for birthdays etc, which considering she doesn’t live far away I really don’t think this acceptable as a relationship as a grandparent and fair on my children as they barely even know who she is anymore.

I am thinking of just silently removing her from my social media account and when she asks me I’m just going to say that I don’t think she should get to see my children anymore , because she isn’t being a stable grandmother and isn’t making any effort to see them so from now on she just doesn’t need to bother at all. Question is, I feel harsh and I don’t know if I am doing the right thing ? We have fallen out about it before but nothing has changed so I wouldn’t even try talking to her about it again, she was also not a good parent to my partner either, she put him in care from a young and age and rarely bothers with him, yet plays the doting parent when she does. I get people have lives but I’m not expecting much. I just feel like we’d be happier if we just knew where we stood and just lived our lives without worrying about when she’s next going to bother with our children all the time. It’s not adding any good to our or their lives. Seems it only benefits her.

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BabyRace · 01/08/2021 23:32

YANU for thinking about it but if she doesn't cause any harm to your family then leave her be. Have no expectations and you won't be disappointed and should the day ever come when your DC ask about her, you can lay the blame entirely at her door; you won't have done anything wrong.

Pheobe2020 · 01/08/2021 23:34

I don’t know whether I would be best just leaving her to get on with it and she’ll only expose herself for how useless she is to our children , or if that isn’t a fair thing to put my children through knowing their grandparent has never made an effort to even ask how they are every now and then. I went through the same with my dads parents and I speak to them out of respect for my dad but I really want to tell them to politely get stuffed sometimes as I know they never gave a damn. I probably sound childish. 🥺 any advice welcome.

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Babyroobs · 01/08/2021 23:38

I don't see any point in removing her from social media, I'm sure she gets pleasure from seeing post/ pictures of her grandkids. Does she have mental health issues, maybe this is a problem and she is just closer to her daughters ? I think it would be harsh to cut contact completely to be honest.

Pheobe2020 · 01/08/2021 23:43

I don’t think her mental health is brilliant especially since her health has declined and I know she’s closer to her daughters but I still don’t think that’s an excuse to treat our children poorly and like they don’t matter. I do agree that removing her would probably be very harsh so I won’t be doing that but I do think I’ll be more selective about what i share as I don’t think she should have the privilege of seeing our children grow when she can’t travel 15 minutes down the road to see them once in a while. 😕

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Pheobe2020 · 01/08/2021 23:47

@BabyRace

YANU for thinking about it but if she doesn't cause any harm to your family then leave her be. Have no expectations and you won't be disappointed and should the day ever come when your DC ask about her, you can lay the blame entirely at her door; you won't have done anything wrong.
Yes I was thinking this, I feel like it would be a bigger burden to bare if I was to cut contact, I’m not a hurtful person I’m just angry at how my children are being treated. But yes I agree with you completely , maybe just leaving her to expose herself is just best , and hopefully one day my children will be brave enough to ask why she never made more of an effort with them
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PickAChew · 01/08/2021 23:52

I wouldn't remove her but it's fair enough to spend less time chasing with nothing in return

HeddaGarbled · 01/08/2021 23:52

Whilst it’s unusual to be so uninvolved, I can’t see how it’s harming anyone. To ban her from the existing level of contact seems unnecessary and maybe even a bit vindictive.

I don’t think anyone ‘puts’ their children into care, do they? Children get placed in care if there are serious problems at home. It sounds like there are much deeper issues with your MIL than you have an understanding of. Maybe the social media contact and giving of money is as much as she can manage.

I can see how the difference in contact with her daughters’ children might seem like favouritism, but that’s probably more to do with her relationship with her daughters than with the children. Without wanting to be sexist, I think daughters can sometimes be a bit more empathetic and less black-and-white about less-than-ideal mothering.

NuckingFightmare · 01/08/2021 23:53

@Pheobe2020 you can change fb settings and put her on restricted. Then she'll only see what you choose to include her in.
It's frustrating though, I've kinda been there.
I just let it play out and dc formed their own opinions.

AnneLovesGilbert · 01/08/2021 23:58

Does your partner have her on his social media and if so does he post about the DC?

Have who you want on yours. If you don’t have a meaningful relationship with her - you don’t - why bother?

Or limit what she sees if you don’t want her doing digital crowing about grandkids she barely engages with but can’t face the potential drama of binning her.

Shit parents rarely make great grandparents and she failed your partner so I’d work on having no expectations and feeling less disappointed as a result.

Did she put his sisters into care as well? Her better relationships with them and their kids might be rubbing salt in the wound but it’s not really the point.

Do whatever is best for you. Let your partner do the same for himself.

There’s no benefit to you or your kids for her to see photos of them though.

Pheobe2020 · 02/08/2021 00:00

@HeddaGarbled

Whilst it’s unusual to be so uninvolved, I can’t see how it’s harming anyone. To ban her from the existing level of contact seems unnecessary and maybe even a bit vindictive.

I don’t think anyone ‘puts’ their children into care, do they? Children get placed in care if there are serious problems at home. It sounds like there are much deeper issues with your MIL than you have an understanding of. Maybe the social media contact and giving of money is as much as she can manage.

I can see how the difference in contact with her daughters’ children might seem like favouritism, but that’s probably more to do with her relationship with her daughters than with the children. Without wanting to be sexist, I think daughters can sometimes be a bit more empathetic and less black-and-white about less-than-ideal mothering.

She didn’t place him into care , but she sent him to live with another family member at a very young age , where he suffered with a lot of trauma from said family member. He was then placed into the care system because his mum wouldn’t have him back, baring in mind he was 11 years old and quite troubled by this point due to all of this. While she kept her daughters in her care throughout this entire period.

My partner has since been nothing but forgiving and tried to bond with his mother , she has made plans to come over countless times and cancelled , even lied and gone to a friends wedding on our child’s birthday as we saw pictures of her there, but she said she couldn’t make it because she was unwell. I’m far from vindictive I’ve just cut a very long story short.

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AnneLovesGilbert · 02/08/2021 00:03

With that update she sounds hideous. And you’re best off protecting yourself and your young children from her.

Why should she get the privilege of watching your lives from behind a screen when she’s too selfish to make the effort to take part in them in real life.

30degreesandmeltinghere · 02/08/2021 00:03

My mil was similar. Sent her a less than appreciative message before our wedding. She emailed everyone she knew slating us. Mainly me.

Fade away quietly op...
Less hassle.
Ime.
Can you limit what she sees?
Not sure how sm works tbh!!
Blush

Pheobe2020 · 02/08/2021 00:05

@AnneLovesGilbert

Does your partner have her on his social media and if so does he post about the DC?

Have who you want on yours. If you don’t have a meaningful relationship with her - you don’t - why bother?

Or limit what she sees if you don’t want her doing digital crowing about grandkids she barely engages with but can’t face the potential drama of binning her.

Shit parents rarely make great grandparents and she failed your partner so I’d work on having no expectations and feeling less disappointed as a result.

Did she put his sisters into care as well? Her better relationships with them and their kids might be rubbing salt in the wound but it’s not really the point.

Do whatever is best for you. Let your partner do the same for himself.

There’s no benefit to you or your kids for her to see photos of them though.

Yes my partner does but he’s not a very big poster so I’m not worried plus I wouldn’t control what he posts as it’s his choice on what he wants to do regarding that , he has the same opinion as me though, I feel sorry for him really. I don’t really speak much about it to him because I don’t want to be the woman who slags his family off , he already knows how much she failed him and is failing his kids. No she didn’t put the sisters in care they remained with her , which is why they have such a good relationship , I just feel like she shouldn’t be getting away with treating not only my partner but my children like they’re disposable. I just don’t want her to think that I’m just accepting of it if that makes sense , but without being horrible about it.

I stopped having expectations a long time ago , as did my partner and my children rarely mention her, I just don’t know if it would be best to just cut myself out of the equation as it upsets me how little she bothers and just let my partner deal with her on the occasions that she does.

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Pheobe2020 · 02/08/2021 00:08

@AnneLovesGilbert

With that update she sounds hideous. And you’re best off protecting yourself and your young children from her.

Why should she get the privilege of watching your lives from behind a screen when she’s too selfish to make the effort to take part in them in real life.

Yes I agree. I think I’m just going to do what I wanted to do and remove her , let my partner know and then he can choose if he wants to remain in her life and just have it done with that way , she never bothers with him all contact is always through me as she knows I’m a soft touch , every time she’s let him down and the children she’ll message me and get me to get him to speak to her , but I just don’t see why I should bother anymore , it’s her job to be a mother , not my job to continuously overlook her behaviour and just allow her to treat my family so poorly. Thank you for the advice
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Pheobe2020 · 02/08/2021 00:11

@30degreesandmeltinghere

My mil was similar. Sent her a less than appreciative message before our wedding. She emailed everyone she knew slating us. Mainly me.

Fade away quietly op...
Less hassle.
Ime.
Can you limit what she sees?
Not sure how sm works tbh!!
Blush

Yes we’ve had this discussion before , to which she slated us to the entire family, claiming that we’re awful people , we’ve just tried continuously and feel like the relationship just isn’t worth the hassle, I could be forgiving if I could see more effort was being made but I think there is just too much water under the bridge.
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Zebraaa · 02/08/2021 00:13

YABU.

The way people go NC on here is ridiculous. I don’t know anyone who does it in real life.

WeatheringStorms22 · 02/08/2021 00:16

Can you limit what she sees?

Yes, you can on Facebook. When you post something it comes up with visible to Friends. If you click that there's an 'except' box so you can stop individuals seeing certain posts.

Just let her fade away. No big 'event', no stopping contact, nothing that you can be blamed for in future. Just a basic card on her birthday and at Christmas and limit her view of the majority of your Facebook posts.

My dc have an excellent, regular relationship with one grandparent and minimal with the other (which is their doing, not ours). It used to make me angry, seeing her commenting on social media, writing mushy things in birthday cards when she makes zero effort to see them for 95% of the time, despite living 15 minutes away and having a car.

I used to encourage, I used to chase. I got sick of making all the effort so I let her fade. Kids see her once every 3/4 months for an hour when they are dutifully polite but have no actual relationship with her and wouldn't be bothered if contact stopped.

Pheobe2020 · 02/08/2021 00:19

@WeatheringStorms22

Can you limit what she sees?

Yes, you can on Facebook. When you post something it comes up with visible to Friends. If you click that there's an 'except' box so you can stop individuals seeing certain posts.

Just let her fade away. No big 'event', no stopping contact, nothing that you can be blamed for in future. Just a basic card on her birthday and at Christmas and limit her view of the majority of your Facebook posts.

My dc have an excellent, regular relationship with one grandparent and minimal with the other (which is their doing, not ours). It used to make me angry, seeing her commenting on social media, writing mushy things in birthday cards when she makes zero effort to see them for 95% of the time, despite living 15 minutes away and having a car.

I used to encourage, I used to chase. I got sick of making all the effort so I let her fade. Kids see her once every 3/4 months for an hour when they are dutifully polite but have no actual relationship with her and wouldn't be bothered if contact stopped.

Yes this is the relationship with my dads parents. He passed away and out of respect I still speak to them but they wasn’t even close to good grandparents. I find it sad how some can justify contacting you once and year and call it a relationship, I just said to my mum that I don’t want to carry the burden of it so maybe if I just let her slip away and just stop her seeing my posts she’ll not have me to paint as the big bad guy and have to accept responsibility herself.
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HamsterHelp · 02/08/2021 00:42

One of my grandmothers was pretty disinterested in us (the other was wonderful though!). I can honestly say it has not harmed me, having them disinterested one in my life. I’m still glad to have known her. She’s still part of who I am.

ineedaholidaynow · 02/08/2021 00:49

Does your DH have a relationship with his sisters?

Tiana4 · 02/08/2021 08:42

[quote NuckingFightmare]@Pheobe2020 you can change fb settings and put her on restricted. Then she'll only see what you choose to include her in.
It's frustrating though, I've kinda been there.
I just let it play out and dc formed their own opinions. [/quote]
This ^^

Pheobe2020 · 02/08/2021 08:47

@ineedaholidaynow

Does your DH have a relationship with his sisters?
No they have an awful relationship and haven’t spoken in around 2 years now unfortunately. They couldn’t get past the fact that he had questions for his mother about his childhood etc , it seems like no one believes he’s valid in his upsets despite the awful things he experienced when his mum made him leave the home.
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Tiana4 · 02/08/2021 08:50

Seen your further updates, as she lets you down last minute and lies about it, I wouldn't make any effort.

If you say DH has fb and can share photos of he wants, if you unfollow her and restrict photos and posts on your fb page to 'except her', it'll have same impact but she won't know. You have every right to chose select close family friends group for your photos

She'll either make more effort or not. I agree she isn't a great influence for your family however she is ill and probably won't many years left. So you may not have to worry about impact on DCs when they are older.

If you don't cut her off, the fact she barely made contact will be her doing, not yours. There will be no comeback other than what she chose, as you're a busy mum

Youseethethingis · 02/08/2021 08:55

Think we might have the same MIL!
You've lasted longer than me, I called my MIL out before my DS was even 2. She didn't like that so now she's out of our lives.
I've watched her hurt and let down DH and DSD so many times, wasn't about to stand by and allow her to do the same to my son just because they happen to share some DNA.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 02/08/2021 09:09

I’ll be more selective about what i share as I don’t think she should have the privilege of seeing our children grow when she can’t travel 15 minutes down the road to see them once in a while

Will you remove everyone from your SM who doesn’t come and visit frequently?