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To think this is a green flag, not a red one?

33 replies

Katiebee008 · 25/07/2021 08:13

For context, I've been with my DP for almost a year. I'm 30, he is mid 40s. I have a 5yo child, he has no children. He loves alone, we spent 2 nights a week together, occasionally 3 nights if my son asks to have a sleepover at his (the other 2 nights are when my son is with his dad). We have a good relationship with good communication. No plans to move in together, we both like our own space, but very much in love. I trust him a lot and he has good morals.

I was talking to a friend recently and got onto the topic of exes, and she said how lucky I was that he didn't have children so I didn't have to deal with any of his exes. I'm not disputing this, it is easier! But I mentioned a conversation I had with him a few months ago. We had been talking about ex partners. He had two relationships in his early 20s, both of whom lived with him. He was then single for about 10 years, before then having another relationship which was long distance. This ended about 6 months before we got together.

I asked how the relationships ended, and he said none of them ended badly they just weren't right. Which led to him saying that he "will always have love for them". He is not in touch with any of them. None of them are local or have any connections to where we live.

My friend thought this was a huge red flag. She said he clearly isn't over them if he still loves them. I disagree. He is saying that he has fond memories of their relationships and will always love them because they didn't hurt each other. It's a red flag if your partner is constantly slating their ex, so how is this not a green flag?! He doesn't seem at all hung up on them. Doesnt talk about them excessively, but is comfortable mentioning them if it's relevant. Two of them he hasn't even seen for 20 years!

I have always struggled with anxiety and am putting a lot of work into it right now and I almost wonder if I'm trying so hard not to be anxious that I'm glossing over something I should be worried about?!

OP posts:
wigornian · 25/07/2021 08:17

YANBU. Seems like a good chap.

PepsiMax91 · 25/07/2021 08:21

I think its very honest not everyone who breaks up is angry & bitter with each other.

Lots of people will hold onto nostalgia and warmth regarding an ex & memories.

So long as it doesn't affect your relationship now then i dont think its an issue.

If I broke up with my partner I would never truely stop loving him but i would get over it and move on eventually.

Bagelsandbrie · 25/07/2021 08:22

It would be a red flag to me if he was still in touch with them (I know others wouldn’t have an issue with this; it’s just me personally as my ex dh left me for one of his exes he spoke with on Facebook) but just saying what he said wouldn’t bother me in the slightest.

Katiebee008 · 25/07/2021 08:24

@bagelsandbrie I agree, if they were still in touch then I'd probably feel a bit differently about it, even if those feelings were unjustified.

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SilverTotoro · 25/07/2021 08:26

Seems like a healthy attitude to me. I’m happily married but still feel affection for my two serious exes - we split up for a reason and don’t keep in touch, but I can remember fondly the time we spent together and have taken lessons from those relationships. A red flag for me would be someone who really hates all their exes without a seemingly significant reason.

Blossomtoes · 25/07/2021 08:29

Just goes to show how rare decent men are that your friend doesn’t even recognise one. I don’t feel bitter about any of my exes and remember them with affection. It’s definitely a green flag.

GNCQ · 25/07/2021 08:30

No it's a good thing to say.
(I might wonder at the back of my mind if he really means he is actually still in love with one of his exes and isn't over her, but that's just my head in overdrive being a jealous and insecure type).

daisypond · 25/07/2021 08:31

I think it’s a positive sign, too.

StepladderToHeaven · 25/07/2021 08:34

I feel like this about my exes. They were nice men and important to me at the time even though it didn't work out. I have feelings of fondness towards them. I haven't seen any of them for years and I'm very happy with DH.

I think perhaps he was wrong to use the word "love" rather than "affection", but I assume that is just semantics.

ohthatbloodycat · 25/07/2021 08:36

Definitely a good sign that things ended amicably with his exes, so don't worry OP Smile

knittingaddict · 25/07/2021 08:38

He said that he "has love for them" which is not at all the same thing as still being in love with them. It suggests fondness towards the women in his life. He sounds lovely actually and seems to have a kind and mature attitude to relationships. As long as everything else is ticketyboo (spelling?) it sounds fine.

Katiebee008 · 25/07/2021 08:41

@knittingaddict things are so ticketyboo that I'm probably going to start worrying that it is too ticketyboo and fuck it up Grin

He's by no mean perfect but he is kind and we work through any niggles well. This is my first healthy relationship so I'm never sure what to expect!

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Disfordarkchocolate · 25/07/2021 08:44

I think it's a sign that he is emotionally mature.

Katiebee008 · 25/07/2021 08:49

@Disfordarkchocolate that comment made me smile because he would absolutely dispute that. He can be very self-deprecating and doesn't see himself as very "mature" because he doesn't have a big career and has never been married or had kids (doesn't want either of those) and is into comics. I have repeatedly pointed out that he lives alone in a house he has a tiny mortgage on, has no other debt, keeps his place clean and tidy, holds down a job and maintains life long friendships. That's about as mature as I need!

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grey12 · 25/07/2021 08:50

I never had a bad breakup. I do think fondly of my previous relationships but am very happy with DH.

I actually think that if by any chance I had gotten pregnant or something with previous partners they would have been great fathers. I think that means I choose them well Smile

Starcar · 25/07/2021 08:56

I don’t think it’s a red flag at all.

One thing of potential concern - do you mean you see your boyfriend 2 nights whilst your son is at his dad’s but see each other 3 nights a week if your five year old son wants a sleepover at your boyfriend’s house? I think that is quite an unusual level of involvement of the child (not to mention gives your child an odd decision making role in your relationship) in your relationship given that you’ve been seeing each other for less than a year. I don’t think I’d involve my young child in sleepovers at this stage at all, at either home, given you have two child free nights per week, let alone allow him to choose when they happen and all head out to the boyfriend’s house together. I would want to get to know each other and enjoy each other’s company without allowing him to become enmeshed in my son’s life at this stage. Then it’s less upset and guilt if it doesn’t work out.

Blossomtoes · 25/07/2021 09:00

Pretty sure if OP had wanted advice on that aspect of her relationship she’d have asked @Starcar. Wind your neck in.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 25/07/2021 09:01

Grown up and mature - nothing worse than a man bitter about an ex...now that is not moving on

Lavender24 · 25/07/2021 09:05

To me saying he "has love for them" just means he cares for them in a friendly way and has fond memories of their time together, not that he's still in love with them. Your friend is overreacting.

ItsVousNotMoi · 25/07/2021 09:06

Ignore @Starcar they are stirring the pot.
Your guy sounds lovely and your son obviously likes him I'd he wants to go there. So many times on here you hear bad things about men. He sounds lovely, go with your gut!

Katiebee008 · 25/07/2021 09:09

@starcar I can appreciate that and know that everyone has differing views on when to involve their children in the relationship. Every few weeks my DP will suggest us all doing something together on a Sunday, so my DS's dad will drop him at my DP's after contact on a Saturday and we will stay there the night before heading out the next day, if my son wants to- which he always does. It works for us. I'm happy with my DS getting to know him, he sees him as "our friend" (as opposed to his dads girlfriend who he has met once or twice but knows her as his dads girlfriend). I've put a lot of time and thought into how to make the best decisions for my son regarding my relationship and I'm happy with the choices I've made Smile I wouldn't want to get into a serious relationship with someone who it turned out didn't get along with my child, so they met a few months ago and see each other probably every 3 weeks for a day out.

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Starcar · 25/07/2021 09:14

The OP was worried that in trying to deal with anxiety she was in fact glossing over something she should be worried about. I mentioned something I thought sounded a bit off. I thought it was at least potentially relevant. If the OP disagrees with it, she can, of course, ignore it. I am still married to my children’s father but I have been, as a child, teen and young adult, exposed to my parents’ relationships, good as well as bad, as well as experienced my adult friends try to navigate post divorce relationships, now with kids. I stand by what I say about getting kids overly involved in relationships at an early stage.

wonkylegs · 25/07/2021 09:16

I think people often put judgements from their own experiences on this. For me it would not be a problem.
I'm still in random contact with my first love , we weren't right for each other but still care what happened to the other. We keep up with each other's lives (marriage, kids, family etc mainly on FB but only on the periphery. I've always been honest with DH about this, DH and I have been together 20+yrs. both Ex and I are happy married and settled and DH know the whole story. I'd be quite happy for them to meet I suspect they would get on quite well but we now live on different continents.
Ex is an actor and DH & I settled down to watch his latest thing on TV the other day.
DH has in the course of our relationship worked with some of his ex's and I have no problem with that.
We don't keep in touch with them all because some didn't end well or we had nothing in common to keep in touch with afterwards but sometimes the friendship was fine even when the chemistry wasn't.
We talk about our past lives (not often these days because it's so long ago) because that's part of who we are and we trust each other.

30degreesandmeltinghere · 25/07/2021 09:18

My now dh had no dc and never spoke badly of his ex despite her cheating.. The lack of streee not dealing with an ex /dc is great!! My exh had dc and it was draining tbh! Not the dc but the dm and her ways!!
Been with dh for nearly 9 years op. A breathe of fresh air!!
Enjoy your lovely man imo!!

Starcar · 25/07/2021 09:19

Hi OP - that post was before I saw your message. I understand the temptation to see if they get on, but as the child it is difficult as you know the parent wants you to like them. and even the idea of them as “our friend” isn’t without problems as if it doesn’t work out you (the child) thinks hmm why doesn’t my friend come see me any more. But nothing’s perfect is it and even friendships end all the time so perhaps I’m overthinking it. I wish you and your son all the best.