Husband wants to go to football/cricket in full stadia

[Hippo2021]

So now the world is opening up and all the rules are off, my sport-mad husband is understandably keen to get back to watching live matches.

I’m 28-weeks pregnant so moving into the ‘vulnerable’ phase, but we’re both double vaccinated (as of 2 days ago).

So am I being unreasonable in asking him to avoid football/cricket matches where all restrictions are off?

I accept that things are opening up and I feel a million times more confident going to shops and restaurants knowing I’m double jabbed, but the thought of him mingling with thousands of strangers really puts me on edge. Is anyone else having similar “debates” in their house?!

Am I just experiencing normal lockdown lifting anxiety, which I need to get over, or am I right to worry, as I head into the 3rd trimester?

YABU

You’ve been double vaccinated and you’ll have a newborn baby soon.

You can’t be locked away forever

YABU. I'm very much in the cautious camp but you're both double vaccinated and these are outdoor events. If not under those circumstances, then when?

I think I would ask him to wait the extra 3 weeks for the 2nd jab to give you full protection, but after that, I think yabu. Life has to go on.

Remember that sat in a stadium there might be thousands there but in reality he will only be seated within 2-3m of maybe a dozen or so.

After three weeks I think as long as it’s outdoors he should be able to go.

You’ll be fine. They’re being pretty strict with people going to these events anyway. Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think there’s been any evidence of babies in uterine being affected by Covid, have there?

‘In utero’*

You're both vaccinated, its outdoors and things need to get back to normal.

But I'm sure the frothy mouth brigade will soon be along to tell you that its sport and not necessary and you should stay-at-home locked indoors unless it's essential food shop, and only if in full ppe.... otherwise hes a selfish person with blood on his hands.

But seriously, let him.go, let's move on and enjoy life

DH has just got back from Silverstone and I’m 31 weeks. Wouldn’t have dreamed of curbing that, he’s waited a long time.

I don’t think of myself as in a ‘vulnerable phase’ and I’m not sure why you would as you’re double vaccinated.

I think you’re being over-anxious.

I wouldn't, having seen how rapidly Covid spread through Wembley after the England games. But the point is you're not comfortable with it, it doesn't matter if anyone else is.

@therocinante

I wouldn't, having seen how rapidly Covid spread through Wembley after the England games. But the point is you're not comfortable with it, it doesn't matter if anyone else is.

How did you see that? How has that been evidenced? Genuine questions.

I can’t imagine how they quantify Covid allegedly spreading ‘through Wembley’?

@therocinante

I wouldn't, having seen how rapidly Covid spread through Wembley after the England games. But the point is you're not comfortable with it, it doesn't matter if anyone else is.

So the OP can force him to not go? I don't think so.

Would certainly ask him to wait until you’re fully protected , 2 weeks after second jab.

@MrsSkylerWhite yes, I’m sure if there’s a specific event OP’s husband wants to go to, they’ll definitely postpone the entire thing until his wife has her her second dose

@Ileflottante

You’ll be fine. They’re being pretty strict with people going to these events anyway. Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think there’s been any evidence of babies in uterine being affected by Covid, have there?

It's not the risk to the baby that's the issue, it's the risk to the op. Heavily pregnant women are at much higher risk for covid, it's just a fact. My SIL, no underlying conditions, got covid at 34 weeks and very nearly died. She was on a ventilator for over a month and is still suffering months later. She wasn't vaccinated at the time to due her age, but it was so awful I would implore any pregnant woman to be extra cautious. I would think her husband would be concerned about the risk to her, as well. Waiting a couple more months to see some stupid game isn't a big ask imo.

driving I searched Wembley on Twitter after a friend caught it and said he more than half people he went with had tested positive. I saw hundreds of tweets of people saying their entire group of friends had tested positive since being there. My husband is in a football fan facebook group that did a poll with its followers who'd been to Wembley for either the semi or the final who'd tested positive - it was something like 60%. The person I know who caught it there is double jabbed, and can't currently get out of bed! So, not a scientific method, but it stands to reason that having lots of people very close together and cramming through turnstiles/on the concourses will allow for transmission. If you've ever been at a big stadium at half time trying to get a pint, it's absolute bedlam.

My husband is in a football fan facebook group that did a poll with its followers who'd been to Wembley for either the semi or the final who'd tested positive - it was something like 60%.

Well if that’s not gospel then I don’t know what is.

I know someone who was at Wembley, then tested positive soon after

YANBU. Why take the chance? Better safe than sorry

TBH, this is probably the first of many discussions about level of acceptable risk to your child. In this house, we've agreed that, if in doubt, safety first

Covid is dangerous for pregnant women, particularly in the third trimester.
You are at a higher risk of being admitted to hospital and then into ICU as your lung capacity is reduced the further into your pregnancy you are.

This is from the RCOG website
“ In pregnant women with symptoms of COVID-19, it is twice as likely that their baby will be born early, exposing the baby to the risk of prematurity. A recent study has also found that pregnant women who tested positive for COVID-19 at the time of birth were more likely to develop pre-eclampsia, more likely to need an emergency caesarean and their risk of stillbirth was twice as high, although the actual number of stillbirths remains low.”

The vaccines do not prevent you getting covid. They believe for most people you have a milder dose.

For the sake of your unborn baby, I think your husband is being unreasonable. All those events will be there next year.
If you think of the risk:benefit comparison; for me it would be a no brainer.

I also know two people who went to Wembley (separately).

Both tested positive a few days later. Both double jabbed.

YANBU.

YANBU. I'm 23 weeks pregnant and we're both double vaccinated but there's no way my DH would do this. Yes, I know we have to get back to normal but at the moment I am admittedly over anxious during pregnancy (years of infertility) and I'd imagine the anxiety of me catching covid during pregnancy would probably harm me more than the covid! However, we don't know just how much immunity we each get from the vaccine so at the moment I'm taking minimal risks, my baby is too precious and I couldn't give a frig what others have to say about this!

@Wearywithteens

28 weeks is not quite ‘about’ to have a baby. There are approximately three months to go.

Having a baby doesn’t mean you aren’t allowed to attend anything ever again, or ‘fuck off’ to a sporting event once in a while.

Don’t be so dramatic.

It's not so much attending the matches in outdoor stadia, but travelling on public transport to get there and meeting in the pub first, where the transmission risk occurs. YANBU.

Tbh I’d be more anxious that I was about to have a baby and all my DH was thinking about was how to fuck off to sporting events hmm

Husbands, lock yourselves away. You must not leave the house. It just isn’t safe.