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Can anyone shed light on these noisy cows.

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ShitPoetryClub · 19/07/2021 14:53

For the last 28yrs I've lived next to a dairy farm but the last week has been extraordinary. The cows are just so noisy. All 80ish of them mooing their heads off from dawn to dusk but worse mid afternoon.
The noise doesn't bother me, just concerned what's up with them? Do you think it's the heat?

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GoodbyeToCare · 19/07/2021 17:18

We have cows in the field next to our house and they moo loudly every time they see the farmer on his quad bike...which can be several times a day Grin. They hope he's going to feed them every time he appears.

DoorAjar · 19/07/2021 17:24

@Justletmelogon

How is it any different to people getting pregnant? I know people who have had babies year after year? Humans have abortions is that ok?

Humans give their babies powdered bottled milk how is that any different to farmers supplementing powdered milk ?
Do you rage on about human bottle feeders?

What about babies being left in childcare while parents work, are they not separated from their parents?

Unless you are talking about situations in which humans are forcibly impregnated annually and their offspring them removed to allow the breast milk to be harvested, it’s hardly comparable.
Ooof · 19/07/2021 17:25

Where do the calves go when separated from mum?

CaptainMyCaptain · 19/07/2021 17:30

@DrNo007

Calves been taken away?
That would be my guess too.
ShitPoetryClub · 19/07/2021 17:38

Well it's all silent here now for the first time in days, so I'm guessing the farmers got home and has sorted things out.

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ShitPoetryClub · 19/07/2021 17:44

Ooof I am no expert but, here, I've seen the calves all kept together in a calf pen. I think the male calves become cattle/ beef at some point and the females join the dairy herd.

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sylbunny · 19/07/2021 18:16

@Scrowy havent a clue! We live rurally and someone was asking because they were worried the cows were in danger - stuck somehow. Farmer confirmed they'd just had their calves separated and it was suggested that the wind direction made it more noticeable in the village on that night

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 19/07/2021 18:30

Oh god can someone explain more. Why have their calves been removed?

How do you not know this? Some Calves are used for veal , cows milk is for CALVES not humans.

Meat eating dairy drinkers with no idea or no care of the abuse and suffering that goes on for their dietary desires.

One person dare say " humane slaughter" you will show yourself to a deluded fucking moron. At best.

What makes a human's whim more important than an animal's life I don't know

@OriginalTaste agreed.

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 19/07/2021 18:31

@Justletmelogon wow. You are actually making cringe with your comment it's so ridiculous.

DoorAjar · 19/07/2021 18:37

@Ooof

Where do the calves go when separated from mum?
The heifer calves are the replacement generation of dairy cows, bull calves are slaughtered, by and large, or exported for veal. Fewer bull calves being born since the introduction of sexed semen.
Ooof · 19/07/2021 18:37

Thank you. Making me feel a bit iffy but I’d be a bit of a hypocrite if I objected as I love beef and dairy Smile

DoorAjar · 19/07/2021 18:37

@ShitPoetryClub

Ooof I am no expert but, here, I've seen the calves all kept together in a calf pen. I think the male calves become cattle/ beef at some point and the females join the dairy herd.
Dairy calves aren’t suitable for beef production, generally.
Justletmelogon · 19/07/2021 18:38

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Zwellers · 19/07/2021 18:39

Nice to see the all farmers are cruel anthropomorphic brigade out in force jumping to assumptions again. And just for the person above -Humane slaughter is what happens in abattoirs. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't make it wrong.

CovidCorvid · 19/07/2021 18:41

@Ooof

Where do the calves go when separated from mum?
Skegness for a little holiday. Grin
30degreesandmeltinghere · 19/07/2021 18:41

A game of moosical cows gone wrong then?

Sparrowsong · 19/07/2021 18:53

I’m vegan because I want no part in using animals for my own pleasures.

Sadsiblingatsea · 19/07/2021 18:55

It’s awful isn’t it.
Am going to seek out more dairy alternatives

SantaSue · 19/07/2021 18:56

This is a good video about the dairy industry if you don't know what goes on in some places:
It's not too graphic, certainly not the worst I've seen.
I used to love meat and dairy but I've seen so many things like this that I just can't do it anymore. Imagine if someone did that sort of thing to our beloved pets just because they wanted to eat them? I would kill anyone who harmed my dog so why do we think it's ok for other animals to be abused?
There are numerous health benefits to cutting down on animal produce too, and oat milk tastes better than cows milk anyway!

Dontdripme · 19/07/2021 18:57

The cows are made pregnant for their milk, the calves are taken away, makes are often killed

Dontdripme · 19/07/2021 19:00

@SupermanWithTheGreyHair

However, after a day or so they’re usually fine.

I have lots of footage that says otherwise. It’s far longer than ‘a day or so’ unfortunately.

Absolutely! How do you know they are absolutely fine!”?
Scrowy · 19/07/2021 19:01

Dairy calves aren’t suitable for beef production, generally.

That's also not that true any more. A lot of what people believe to be true of the dairy industry is now at least a decade out of date.

Dairy Cows are often artificially inseminated with 'sexed semen' vastly increasing the rate of heifer (female) calves being born and reducing the amount of bull calves.

Dairy Bull calves that are born do now have a healthy market in the beef industry, they are fattened and sold (not as veal) and the meat is increasingly sought after by supermarkets etc as its very lean.

Many dairy farmers are also crossing their dairy cows with beef breed bulls like limousin or Hereford and the resulting calves, male or female are sold into the beef industry.

Most dairy producers (e.g. Arla) make being in a Red Tractor scheme a condition of being one of their members, and often also stipulate that male calves can't be culled at birth. Not that anyone would these days anyway because male calves currently have a value.

A lot of what people think they know about dairy at the moment comes from the very dark days after BSE etc where British beef sales were on the floor.

I'll happily admit that some practices in the British dairy industry aren't ideal, but it's also not anywhere near as bad as some people like to make out and by and large dairy cows lead very pampered lives. They are the supermodels of the bovine world.

Dontdripme · 19/07/2021 19:01

@SantaSue

This is a good video about the dairy industry if you don't know what goes on in some places: It's not too graphic, certainly not the worst I've seen. I used to love meat and dairy but I've seen so many things like this that I just can't do it anymore. Imagine if someone did that sort of thing to our beloved pets just because they wanted to eat them? I would kill anyone who harmed my dog so why do we think it's ok for other animals to be abused? There are numerous health benefits to cutting down on animal produce too, and oat milk tastes better than cows milk anyway!
Oat milk is way superior
WeatherwaxOn · 19/07/2021 19:02

@covidcathy

Oh god Sad can someone explain more. Why have their calves been removed?
Calves either to slaughter or for breeding. Cows kept for milk. Cows will likely be inseminated again later in the year to produce more calves for milk.
Lockdownbear · 19/07/2021 19:16

@ShitPoetryClub

Well it's all silent here now for the first time in days, so I'm guessing the farmers got home and has sorted things out.
Bless that farmer, cutting short his first holiday in 10 years to sort out his unhappy herd.

Glad all the cows are happy again. Smile