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To be upset about this

30 replies

TeaDrinker98 · 13/07/2021 23:13

So long story short, I think I suffer from PTSD due to a poor childhood where I seen a lot of violence between DM and boyfriends.

Anyway, I've told DP this a few times, as sudden loud choices frighten me and upset me more than they maybe should. He's jumped out on me several times and thinks it's funny. I have told him to stop many times, and told him why it needs to stop.

He seems to forget himself, as he done it again today. I got really angry, I was holding something in my hand and I whacked him with it (I think it was a clothe or something). He laughed at me, but I couldn't laugh, I just felt so angry.

I feel ridiculous, like such a drama queen. I honestly feel like crying whilst writing this because he just doesn't seem to understand what it does to me.

Am I being unreasonable? He means no harm, which makes me feel like I am.

OP posts:
Motnight · 13/07/2021 23:15

I am not at all sure that he means no harm.

AnneLovesGilbert · 13/07/2021 23:18

He does mean harm. It’s only a joke if everyone’s laughing and you don’t forget something like this.

I’m terrible for jumping if DH, or anyone, suddenly appears. I don’t have your painful history and he’s always trying to announce his presence so I don’t get spooked. Do you know what he does when it happens? He apologises! And that’s when he’s done nothing wrong but walk into a room in the house he lives in while I’m distracted by something else. It wouldn’t occur to him to scare me on purpose, because that’s cruel and nasty.

Stop making excuses for him.

DeathStare · 13/07/2021 23:18

Does he jump out on his boss? His elderly grandmother? Strangers in the street? Of course he doesn't. So it isn't that he can't help it or forgets himself.

He knows this causes you harm and he CHOOSES to continue doing it. And then he laughs at the fact that he causes you harm.

Thus is not a man you should be with. Hes not a man anyone should be with. I think you need to think (maybe with a counsellor) about whether your experiences of witnessing violence make you think this isn't abusive and cruel. Because it is.

Ponoka7 · 13/07/2021 23:19

Of course he means harm. This isn't a normal thing to do without your history. He's enjoying seeing you upset. Why do you think he doesn't understand? you'd have to be severely lacking to not understand. It's usual to get into abusive relationships with your background, are you sure that's not what you've done?

Workinghardeveryday · 13/07/2021 23:19

Or he actually doesn’t understand how distressing it is.
Sit him down explain in detail. If he does it again he’s out of order

QueenBee52 · 13/07/2021 23:21

He enjoys terrorising you...

read that again .. and again 🌸

DeathStare · 13/07/2021 23:22

@Workinghardeveryday

Or he actually doesn’t understand how distressing it is. Sit him down explain in detail. If he does it again he’s out of order
I have told him to stop many times, and told him why it needs to stop

She already has. She doesn't need to keep explaining this to him. If he wasnt getting enjoyment out of triggering he PTSD he'd have stopped the first time she mentioned it

0None0 · 13/07/2021 23:23

YANBU and he is being abusive

HollowTalk · 13/07/2021 23:25

He knows exactly what he's doing and he gets off on your fear. He's not a good man, OP, and you should try to get away from him.

veganmayo · 13/07/2021 23:26

I can mark the moment I decided I would work on leaving my ex and it was very similar to this. I have a similar kind of fear and, knowing this but obviously not thinking, he hid and jumped out at me in the dark ‘for a laugh’. I couldn’t respect him after knowing he found that funny.

Henio · 13/07/2021 23:29

How old is he???

TeaDrinker98 · 13/07/2021 23:35

These responses.......wow

I had honestly never thought of it this way at all.

He'll do it every few months (or something like that), and says he "forgets himself".

To the people who asked, I definitely have a habit of being with abusive men, I can't deny that. I know that's my own fault though, so I'm definitely not looking for pity.

I never ever considered this behaviour might be abusive though to be honest.

He's in his 30s btw.

OP posts:
EKGEMS · 14/07/2021 00:16

Look up the Freedom Programme-you can do it online to help you spot the wrong ones. I also suggest therapy for yourself. Get rid of that asshole,you deserve better

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 14/07/2021 00:21

He’s either very stupid indeed, or deliberately upsettng you. I wouldn’t stay with him either way.

FancyFlipFlops · 14/07/2021 02:41

I second having a look at doing the Freedom Program. You need to understand why you go for certain types and break the chain.

freedomprogramme.co.uk/

I also would say, as the other have, please leave the bastard.

Aquamarine1029 · 14/07/2021 02:44

You need to leave this man immediately. He's sadistic. My arse he "forgets." He does this because making you scared gives him pleasure. He's a sick fucker.

QueenBee52 · 14/07/2021 02:47

@Aquamarine1029

You need to leave this man immediately. He's sadistic. My arse he "forgets." He does this because making you scared gives him pleasure. He's a sick fucker.

too true OP 🌸

ChargingBuck · 14/07/2021 03:04

I feel ridiculous, like such a drama queen.

You're not a drama queen, you are a survivor, managing PTSD. You are brave & resilient.

I honestly feel like crying whilst writing this because he just doesn't seem to understand what it does to me.

Oh, he understand all right. Can you even count the number of times you have explained it to him? He knows how upsetting it is for you, he knows about the damage done to you as a child ... & yet he keeps doing it, no matter how many times you ask him not to.
What does that say about him?

Am I being unreasonable?
No.
Who, or what, put that thought in your head?

He means no harm, which makes me feel like I am

Bullshit.
He means harm.
He likes making you jump.
He likes seeing your fright & distress.
He likes making you explain - again, & again, & again, why he should not do it, & then ignoring your explanation.
He laughs at your fear, he laughs at your anger & passes it all off as "forgetting."
He doesn't "forget". Short of a brain dysfunction, how could an adult forget something that is so clearly causing distress?
He knows exactly what you do not like, & why you do not like it - & yet he insists on doing it.

What would you call this behaviour, if you saw it being done to anyone else?
Do you have children, or want to have them? A beloved pet?
How would you feel if he did this to them, & found their distress & triggered memories amusing?

Myshitisreal · 14/07/2021 03:05

I have CPTSD, this is horrible. My husband would never ever do this to me in this way.

ChargingBuck · 14/07/2021 03:30

To the people who asked, I definitely have a habit of being with abusive men, I can't deny that. I know that's my own fault though, so I'm definitely not looking for pity.

I won't give you pity my dear, you don't need it.
What you need is some Tough Love, & a toolkit.
You already have a fair bit of self-awareness, you are articulate & experienced. Your instincts are crying out to be heard, but they are battling the conditioning imposed by .. well, your childhood, society's nonsense about relationships, the romance industry's toxic messaging, & a myriad other factors.

When you have quiet time, away from Mr Fright, please follow the link PP posted to The Freedom Programme. Do that course, at a library or in a cafe if you have to create space where he cannot jump out at you surprise you at your homework.

Then buy a copy of this - again, in stealth mode! - www.amazon.co.uk/Why-Does-He-That-Controlling/dp/0425191656?tag=mumsnetforu03-21
Lundy Bancroft has made a life's work out of studying the phenomenon of "Angry & Controlling Men" - or abusive, manipulative men, if you like.
A close study of his book will give you the framework to spot patterns, & build on the work you will do c/o The Freedom Programme.
It is very accessible, & packed with truly supportive, understanding wisdom. It's not an easy read, especially for those of us who have been there - but imo it is VITAL to your recovery & self-preservation. Make sure you structure 'down-time' to do something nice after your Freedom course sessions, & your Bancroft reading. Build up a pattern of self-reliance & self-reward with this homework (toolkit).

Never, ever, let him see or know about your toolkit.

The fact that you didn't even expect supportive responses here, on a women's forum, is telling (& heartbreaking, but no pity, eh?)
Once you have schooled yourself in recognising the pattern - or The Script as it is often known, because it becomes utterly predictable when you have a little more learning under your belt - you will appreciate why, at stupid o'clock in the morning, several women have already taken a very sharp breath indeed, & launched themselves into the thread to give you a few pointers about -

I never ever considered this behaviour might be abusive though to be honest.

When you genuinely see the pattern (& it doesn't take as long as you might think to learn about The Script), you will realise how you came to have a habit of being with abusive men, & you will be able to see the signals, resist the allure of the next abuser who wants to be in your life, & protect yourself while you heal, & I very much hope, engage in therapy.

None of this is your fault btw, but is is your responsibility to build the happiest life you can for yourself, & a life with men like this in it is not conducive to contentment. Please make your primary goal pleasing yourself - not some arsehole who gets s thrill out of scaring you xx

Aprilx · 14/07/2021 04:33

It’s not a nice thing to do to anyone, regardless of their past or background. It isn’t something that adults normally do at all. As someone else mentioned, I bet he doesn’t “forget himself” and find this amusing or funny to do this to anyone else.

He does mean you harm. He gets pleasure out of you being scared and you asking him to stop and explaining why it scares you. I don’t see how it is genuinely possible to “forget” that after even one conversation never mind many. Nobody that cared about you would do this.

PrincessNutella · 14/07/2021 04:50

You told your man what you disliked.
He did it anyway.
That is all you need to know.
You are not a "drama queen" for having frightened reactions to sudden or loud noises.
If anyone has an inappropriate emotional reactions, it is this man for being defensive over being called out on his childish behavior. It is so bad.

Wallywobbles · 14/07/2021 05:38

Does he also laugh when people hurt themselves? Fall over in public and the like? One of my red flags.

Etinox · 14/07/2021 08:20

Flowers it’s not your fault
Well done for recognising there’s a pattern. It’s like noticing that you’re lactose intolerant though, now find out what products contain milk and how to avoid them.
Shark Cage

freelions · 14/07/2021 08:24

I would hate that and I don't have PTSD

I really hate those videos that pop up on FB where adult children keep doing this to their Mum/Nan. It's vile

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