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To be absolutely disgusted that Colin Pitchfork is being released?

123 replies

MrsTrustice · 13/07/2021 16:08

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-57737050

He is 61, he easily could have 30 years left to do it again. How the hell are women ever supposed to feel safe when men like this still get a second chance? A government appeal to stop the release was rejected ffs. Who makes these decisions? I feel ill.

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Lockheart · 13/07/2021 19:20

@baldafrique

Too many men on parole boards who dont really understand how bad rape is
The parole board is not there to pass judgement on the crimes committed - their sole consideration is risk to the public.
Lockheart · 13/07/2021 19:20

@AlternativePerspective

Will he be given a new identity? I can’t imagine he will be deemed to be safe out there.

And as an aside, is his name actually Pitchfork? Or is this a name which has come about somehow? I ask only because the fact that a murderer actually has the name “pitchfork” just seems too much like a horrible coincidence.

That is his real name - my mother was at school with him.
Dillydollydingdong · 13/07/2021 19:22

The members of the panel that decided this should be told that if he commits any further crimes, they will be held personally responsible

Lockheart · 13/07/2021 19:24

@Dillydollydingdong

The members of the panel that decided this should be told that if he commits any further crimes, they will be held personally responsible
No, they shouldn't - that's not how it works. You can't hold people responsible for the crimes of others, with good reason.
Lockheart · 13/07/2021 19:30

@WorriedWishingWell

It makes you wonder how many women a serial killer has to kill before life means life. As many as Peter Sutcliffe perhaps? 😞
When he was convicted, the maximum sentence which could be passed was 30 years.

Sentencing guidelines have changed considerably since then and nowadays he probably would have a whole life order with no parole.

However, that's not the sentence that was passed, because in the 80s/90s it legally could not have been passed. He got the maximum they could pass then.

Dillydollydingdong · 13/07/2021 19:31

lockheart negligence

AssassinatedBeauty · 13/07/2021 19:32

I don't think telling people that the parole board are correct is going to reassure them that women and girls are safe from this man, @Lockheart. I think people are well aware that the correct processes have been followed and that this man has the right to be released, and that no one can do anything about it.

Regardless of the parole board decision, I don't think it's possible to conclude that a sexually motivated serial killer can ever be safely rehabilitated. In addition he is only in his early 60s and in physically good health. He is therefore still a danger to women and girls that will unknowingly encounter him. It's genuinely frightening.

Lockheart · 13/07/2021 19:33

@Dillydollydingdong

lockheart negligence
Someone who is negligent has not committed anothers crimes though.

You might have a case to bring action against the parole board if you could prove they were negligent. But as it stands, we have no evidence either way that the panel in this case has been negligent.

Lockheart · 13/07/2021 19:35

@AssassinatedBeauty

I don't think telling people that the parole board are correct is going to reassure them that women and girls are safe from this man, *@Lockheart*. I think people are well aware that the correct processes have been followed and that this man has the right to be released, and that no one can do anything about it.

Regardless of the parole board decision, I don't think it's possible to conclude that a sexually motivated serial killer can ever be safely rehabilitated. In addition he is only in his early 60s and in physically good health. He is therefore still a danger to women and girls that will unknowingly encounter him. It's genuinely frightening.

Have I said the parole board are correct? I believe I said:

Do I think the parole board have got it wrong? I can't comment - I don't have the evidence they have access to.

I express no opinion on the validity of the parole board's decision - we don't have access to the information they do.

TheWeeDonkey · 13/07/2021 19:35

So when he does it again does that mean he'll finally get a proper sentence?

Lockheart · 13/07/2021 19:39

@TheWeeDonkey

So when he does it again does that mean he'll finally get a proper sentence?
Any new crimes which he commits / is convicted of now would be tried and punished according to the sentencing guidelines as they currently stand.

His licensing conditions will be extremely strict - even the slightest breach will result in him being back in prison.

TheQueef · 13/07/2021 19:42

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Proudmumtoday · 13/07/2021 19:46

What @Lockhart said.

PaulaPetunia · 13/07/2021 19:47

The members of the parole board face no risk whatsoever.

Toddlerteaplease · 13/07/2021 19:48

@Ghosttile

He left his baby alone in the back of a car to go and rape and murder a 15 year old girl. Three years later he raped and murdered another 15 year old girl. He was caught through DNA profiling (a mass screening of men in the area), eventually, as he persuaded a colleague to take the test for him.
Yes. He was caught because he boasted about getting someone else to do it for him.
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TheWeeDonkey · 13/07/2021 19:57

@PaulaPetunia

The members of the parole board face no risk whatsoever.
No they'll be fine, it's just the women and girls who live near wherever hes relocated who will be at risk.

There was a case in America where a man abducted, rapedd a girl and left her for dead. When he was released from prison no states would allow him residency so he had to live within the grounds of the prison he was released from.

Lockheart · 13/07/2021 19:58

@TheWeeDonkey

Good, shouldn't take too long then. I'm just sorry for the poor woman/girl who'll have to be the collateral damage.
I'm sorry, you'd rather someone be raped and murdered so he can go back to prison than him living outside a prison?

Is that where this kind of mob mentality is going?

Proudmumtoday · 13/07/2021 19:58

Some of you would be be well advised to be mindful of how to post in ways that may not be seen to be prejudicial.

I’m not sure that supporting some sort of vigilante justice is really helpful and could in fact be prejudicial should he reoffend.

PercyPigandMe · 13/07/2021 19:59

Well, he had a right to his parole and he has served his time and has gone through the long process which leads to release. And his release will be very tightly monitored. So you either believe in rehabilitation and justice or you don't - the parole board's job isn't to look to further punish.

But having said all that, I honestly would be happy to see these evil men just locked up for life. Morally that feels very comfortable to me.

TheWeeDonkey · 13/07/2021 20:00

I'd rather Parole Board had the common sense to realise a predatory psycopath doesn't change, but here we are.

He's free until as you say he commits another offence, the idea thats an if rather than a when is naive in the extreme.

PercyPigandMe · 13/07/2021 20:00

@TheQueef but you're expressing your opinion there - yet dressing it up as a fact.

People need to be careful how they say things. Is this man a piece of shit and utterly abhorrent? Yes. Should stupid vigilante action be encouraged? No. Not in a civilised society anyway

Lockheart · 13/07/2021 20:02

@TheWeeDonkey

I'd rather Parole Board had the common sense to realise a predatory psycopath doesn't change, but here we are.

He's free until as you say he commits another offence, the idea thats an if rather than a when is naive in the extreme.

If your crystal ball is that good, may I suggest applying to work on the Parole Board? Clearly your help would be invaluable.

www.gov.uk/government/organisations/parole-board/about/recruitment

TheQueef · 13/07/2021 20:04

[quote PercyPigandMe]@TheQueef but you're expressing your opinion there - yet dressing it up as a fact.

People need to be careful how they say things. Is this man a piece of shit and utterly abhorrent? Yes. Should stupid vigilante action be encouraged? No. Not in a civilised society anyway [/quote]
Report it if you think so.
I didn't mention vigilante btw imo he wouldn't give an opportunity.
Report that too.

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