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If only someone like Gareth Southgate was our Prime Minister...

113 replies

flashbac · 08/07/2021 10:51

Imagine.

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Blossomtoes · 09/07/2021 11:57

Frank lampard went to a private school

Since when has private education equated to intelligence?

the80sweregreat · 09/07/2021 12:00

Just making the point that many footballers are brighter than they look that's all !

PurplePi · 09/07/2021 12:46

@hayley037

I do wonder what will happen after the tournament if we win it, Johnson and Downing Street will surely try to jump on the bandwagon with a drinks reception, meeting the players, etc. I guess they already are with some of their twitter posts over the past week or so.

But this government and the people who generally vote for its kind of politics are not particularly favourable to the players. I wonder if they would choose to make a political statement and turn down the invite, I know that I would and would certainly not shake hands with someone like Boris Johnson.

We had the obvious school meals debacle where the u-turn by the government was obviously only done because of the furore that Rashford caused.

Then you had Johnson, Patel and numerous other Tories all public defending racists being able to boo anti racist gestures and the taking of the knee with one Tory MP actually stating he would be boycotting games because of it. Southgate even had to write an open letter to the nation about it.

Bandwagon? That'd never happen...
DynamoKev · 09/07/2021 12:49

@Earlydancing

You have no idea what he's like. He's won four football matches with a team of multi millionaires who do nothing but train and receive the ultimate care and attention.
^this.
the80sweregreat · 09/07/2021 13:01

I bet they will all go to a drinks reception at number 10 if they win.
One or two might not agree with the politics, but I bet that will put to one side and the brief will be ' its a good will thing ' to be seen celebrating with Johnson and co.

longwayoff · 09/07/2021 13:07

Mark Francois. Jacob Rees Mogg. Andrew Bridgen. Dominic Raab. And many more equally intellectual giants from the Tory party. I'd swap the lot of them for a Sunday five a side team and we'd all be better for it.

jasjas1973 · 09/07/2021 13:16

Look at Keir Starmer. He's basically Mr Darcy but in actual office, the public think he's ineffectual and Captain Hindsight

Thats down to the media and headlines... they do it to every Labour leader.

Applying far higher standards to Labour leaders then Tory ones.

...and because this, we will always get Tory PMs, decent people need not apply.

HumbugWhale · 09/07/2021 13:26

@Lemonmelonsun

what impresses me is how he brings other experts in for the team, apparently causing out cry for doing it.

I wish we could do this for our nhs and education.

Nobody would put a politician in charge of a national sports side, it is always an ex-professional from that sport. Maybe that's what the government could learn about how to run/improve the NHS and education system - people who have worked there, know the strengths and weaknesses and how best to spend the fund to improve it I stead of a minister trying to score political points.
Pottedpalm · 09/07/2021 13:38

@Blossomtoes

People don't vote for nice and reliable

Obviously or we wouldn’t have our current PM.

They vote for who best represents their political beliefs

Dubious. It’s astonishing how many people voted Tory because “Boris is a right laugh”. I bet half of them had no idea what they were voting for beyond Brexit.

You know many people who voted for Boris on those grounds? ‘Half of them had no idea what they were voting for’.. more sweeping generalisation based on what?
BillyShears · 09/07/2021 13:39

If we win the Euros I think that counts as good as an election. We’ll just move him in Monday.

Blossomtoes · 09/07/2021 13:50

You know many people who voted for Boris on those grounds? ‘Half of them had no idea what they were voting for’.. more sweeping generalisation based on what?

I said I bet half of them had no idea what they were voting for beyond Brexit. Selective quoting doesn’t improve your argument.

The 2019 election campaign was crammed with vox pops of people saying exactly those things. Were you asleep?

Pottedpalm · 09/07/2021 18:18

@Blossomtoes

You know many people who voted for Boris on those grounds? ‘Half of them had no idea what they were voting for’.. more sweeping generalisation based on what?

I said I bet half of them had no idea what they were voting for beyond Brexit. Selective quoting doesn’t improve your argument.

The 2019 election campaign was crammed with vox pops of people saying exactly those things. Were you asleep?

Unsubstantiated opinion doesn’t make a good argument either. ‘ ‘ I bet’ carries no weight,
Blossomtoes · 09/07/2021 18:20

Ignore me then. I didn’t ask you to engage with me. 🤷‍♀️

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