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That Sarah Vine column

557 replies

candycane222 · 02/07/2021 17:23

Well twitter.com/joepike/status/1410993004874248193?s=19

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ReadySalt · 03/07/2021 13:02

This cheese speech? Dear me!

RedToothBrush · 03/07/2021 13:03

[quote Zilla1]**@Classica* @o8T8o*

How dare you? You leave Penfold out of this. I will report both of your posts.

As an aside, what's Mark Francois been up to recently?[/quote]
Probably shouting En-ger-land and taking about Two World Wars as usual.

Blossomtoes · 03/07/2021 13:04

Ah, the cheese reference is now clear.

RedToothBrush · 03/07/2021 13:05

He is definitely innocent of course.

Classica · 03/07/2021 13:06

[quote Zilla1]**@Classica* @o8T8o*

How dare you? You leave Penfold out of this. I will report both of your posts.

As an aside, what's Mark Francois been up to recently?[/quote]
probably still in a stare-off with Will Self

(so glad Francois has felt the need/been told to to lower his profile)

TeddingtonTrashbag · 03/07/2021 13:06

Diane Abbott is a blithering idiot who can barely string two words together so anything she says needs to be firmly ignored. She is a massive hypocrite who thinks the rules are for the plebs."
Yes state school education good enough for the plebs-but not her own son, of course…

Zilla1 · 03/07/2021 13:07

Breathing a huge sigh of relief. About Brexit presumably.

RubyViolet · 03/07/2021 13:07

@Ifailed

They will scarper as soon as they can decently do so.

I wonder how long the DM will keep Vine on as one of their highest paid columnists once the links with the top of the tory party are severed?

She has all the tea, they will keep her on. There is something about the timing of the Hancock video being leaked and the Gove’s announcement that makes me question why . I can see wild conspiracy theories about this online suggesting the Hancock video is a damage limitation manoeuvre….. but to detract or sideswerve what ?? Isn’t it awful that we can’t believe anything at face value from these clowns.
TeddingtonTrashbag · 03/07/2021 13:07

Interestingly is the person he’s allegedly shacked up with...but I can’t write it down else it’ll get deleted.
Will be public before the week is out.

ddl1 · 03/07/2021 13:08

They used to say of such couples 'thank God they married each other, and made only two people miserable instead of four'. Nowadays of course, through easier remarriage/ partnerships, they could make any number of people miserable!

Zilla1 · 03/07/2021 13:11

Interestingly lower profile though. I recall seeing a reaction to what I presume was misunderstanding about what Will Self said and the distinction between an assertion that (paraphrased) 'racists voted for Brexit' and 'Brexit voters are racist'. Was astonished at the attempt at a stare out.

TeddingtonTrashbag · 03/07/2021 13:11

Topo Gigio?
(for anyone unlucky enough not to have been brought up in Italy, he is s cartoon mouse whose love of cheese gets him into scrspes Grin)

justasking111 · 03/07/2021 13:14

@TeddingtonTrashbag

Interestingly is the person he’s allegedly shacked up with...but I can’t write it down else it’ll get deleted. Will be public before the week is out.
Not the guy who likes trains 😅
Zilla1 · 03/07/2021 13:16

@RubyViolet
One take on Hancock might be about the relatively swift announcement from Sajid Javid about lockdown ending on time and no return, irrespective of how Delta variant progresses in the UK.

It seems the powers that be were unimpressed that June lockdown ending was postponed with Hancock's insistence and it was best to get him out of the way without the risk of him resigning for a COVID lockdown disagreement reason hence the method of his political execution.

No evidence beyond an informal steer by public servant insiders who are not political insiders.

SecretSpAD · 03/07/2021 13:17

Ah, the cheese reference is now clear.

Ahh, yes...though I was thinking about a different sex!

Peregrina · 03/07/2021 13:20

According to Twitter something that might be used by someone with a hernia may be involved.

I can get that one. Still baffled by the cheese. (Goes off to google.)

justasking111 · 03/07/2021 13:22

@SecretSpAD

Ah, the cheese reference is now clear.

Ahh, yes...though I was thinking about a different sex!

Me too 🤣
Peregrina · 03/07/2021 13:22

Ah, led to the same place!

longwayoff · 03/07/2021 13:22

Fond of cheese? Not Wallace, surely? What about Grommet?

Peregrina · 03/07/2021 13:27

Not the guy who likes trains

What? The one who had the most spectacular loss at an election some years back? 'Were you up for xxxxxx'? being asked. But to be fair, accepted defeat with a good grace.

RedToothBrush · 03/07/2021 13:28

@Zilla1

Interestingly lower profile though. I recall seeing a reaction to what I presume was misunderstanding about what Will Self said and the distinction between an assertion that (paraphrased) 'racists voted for Brexit' and 'Brexit voters are racist'. Was astonished at the attempt at a stare out.
The threshold for going legal not reached.
TooBigForMyBoots · 03/07/2021 13:30

I love schadenfreude.

Zilla1 · 03/07/2021 13:34

@RedToothBrush indeed. Let's hope any policy initiatives to address shortcomings in entirely unrelated areas bear fruit.

Mumsnut · 03/07/2021 13:34

I’m kind of hoping that SV will style it out by doing a tell-all for the Mail and gazumping the story that o e of the Sunday papers undoubtedly has

RedToothBrush · 03/07/2021 13:35

[quote Zilla1]@RubyViolet
One take on Hancock might be about the relatively swift announcement from Sajid Javid about lockdown ending on time and no return, irrespective of how Delta variant progresses in the UK.

It seems the powers that be were unimpressed that June lockdown ending was postponed with Hancock's insistence and it was best to get him out of the way without the risk of him resigning for a COVID lockdown disagreement reason hence the method of his political execution.

No evidence beyond an informal steer by public servant insiders who are not political insiders.[/quote]
Good argument here that Johnson was put into a position by Cummings where he couldn't sack Hancock.

But the public would find it more difficult to adjust to life after the 19th June led by a Health Minister who had done all the messaging to stay home and stay safe now saying 'oh everything is fine now' despite rising cases.

You only have to look at the Covid section of mn to see there there are a lot of people struggling to comprehend that risk has altered and isn't what it was some month ago and thats having an impact on behaviour to an extent which is possibly no longer justified by the data.

Thus a new Health Secretary marks a clean slate and tone.

I'm not sure I buy into it completely, but the knives were definitely out for Hancock and he was actively targetted out of the job.

I also think that, in fairness, its possibly what was needed. (And actually I think Hancock has performed ok at Health in spite of challenges and opposition from elsewhere in Cabinet and beyond all things considered).